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[Sugestion] Take a page from WoW and Diablo 3 by...

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... facilitating respecing. Why is it that we as players need to travel to a major city and pay an exorbitant amount of gold in order to try out a different build? I can understand players arguing that such a penalty serves as a gold sink, but gold can be controlled in many other ways. Ever since playing Diablo 3, I have come to appreciate the ease of changing up my skills to try something new. Often times, the text description of an ability is not enough for me to properly gauge whether I want to unlock it or not. I need to use the ability and see how well it synergises with the rest of my build before accurately determining whether or not it's worth a slot. That, or I have to resort to some cookie-cutter build.

I, for instance, decided to try a morph on my Dragonknight that sounded good based on the text description, but unfortunately I soon found out it costs too much magicka, so it does not work well with my build. Instead of being able to try the other morph, I simply don't use the ability anymore since the respec costs are absurdly high.

Furthermore, many builds that excel in PvE simply do not work in PvP. Why punish players for wanting to switch things up by partaking in a different sphere of gameplay? WoW developers realized this and now, you can change your talents and spec whenever you're not in combat except inside instances, where it can only be done if the player uses a crafted consumable.

So please, ZOS, stop making it such a hassle for players to experiment. Give us more freedom and allow us to more easily change our builds!

  • CherryCake
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    I dont know I find it really easy to change skills to be honest...its only a wayshrine away and from what I know last time it was only 1 gold per skill, unless they changed that...
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  • Myerscod
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    Agree, I see no reason why skills can't be reset 'on the fly' by single skill or reset morph only.
  • GreySix
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    I play so sparsely that I'm often required to respec my characters when logging in again. :D
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  • Bonzodog01
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    I dont know I find it really easy to change skills to be honest...its only a wayshrine away and from what I know last time it was only 1 gold per skill, unless they changed that...

    Yeah, the 1 gold per skill thing was temporary for 2 weeks after the DB release. Its back to 100 gold per skill now.
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  • KingYogi415
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    Its 1 gold on console
  • Shadesofkin
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    It's only a lot of gold if you're poor. Most players can afford it and only the very new try out "builds" before they've hit at least CP160.
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  • phermitgb
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    for Estelio - I think the 1-gold-per-skill cost was actually a very short time offer after the latest patch dropped - they reduced skill point costs significantly for a short period of time - think that was post Dark Brotherhood. IIRC, normal cost for a respec is 50 gold per skill point, which can be close to 30k for max/near-max sp characters

    whether that's a LOT or not, is up to you to decide - but I'd say it's a significant amount of money for casual players

    However, cost notwithstanding, I too generally agree that respeccing is, at least for me, at about the right place. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the instant versatility of specs for WOW and Diablo 3, but I also appreciate tow other aspects of playing a game and building a character; namely, commitment, and thorough experimentation.

    My personal experience has been, that I connect better with my characters as I follow their growth and progress. My characters actually grow - they experiment with skills, test things out - find that some things work, some things don't, some work but feel so awkward that I prefer not to use them, and some things I choose to pass by because they *sound* awkward or inappropriate, and I only have so much to spread around. I, through my character, have to make choices about that character's *life* - and I like that.

    to me, my character isn't just a set of statistics that I use to beat content or other people - they're a...surrogate person - a vicarious life experience - and I take some comfort in knowing that they have to make many of the same choices I kinda do over the course of their life.

    and yet, I CAN still totally respec the character - I just can't do it often, or will-nilly. For me, the choice to respec is a significant one, like many of the other choices I have to make with limited resources - all of that lends me some...weight...to the experience of playing the character.

    and, like I mentioned earlier - there's also commitment to the build. I find that it's far too easy to dislike something early on and give it a pass, instead of really testing it out. Lately, I've found myself, mostly for fun, leveling up skills I don't use - like a chump, I put them on my action bars and actually used them, rather than putting them on a switchable bar mod so that I could just pump them up during quest turn ins. And you know what, it was an interesting experience, using skills I don't generally like, HAVING to find the ways in which they *would* be useful, adapting my playstyle to account for skills I wouldn't normally use.

    That's not to say that any of them dramatically changed my mind - but I still found it a valuable experience.

    anyway, that's not to say you're *wrong* - just, an alternate perspective on the problem, perhaps
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  • ComboBreaker88
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    Yeah that 1 gold per skill point is really breaking the bank....
  • Bouldercleave
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    I did the same thing on a morph.

    The shrine lets you respec morphs only and it cost me 550 gold last night.

    I wouldn't consider that very high at all.
  • itehache
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    I have had to use that wayshrine a couple times while leveling due to my poor choices :lol: I cannot remember exactly how much I paid, but I could pay it, and I was playing for like, 2 weeks maybe? I do not think it is expensive either.
  • Garldeen
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    If borrowing from other MMO games can we have the newish feature FFXIV added. An equipment optimiser (not sure on proper name) which tells you with one click if you are wearing the best gear you have in your inventory and makes suggestions about what you should swap. Is super handy for people like me who want to get on and have fun in the game without having to learn every single minor detail of builds etc. I have enough learning to do at work and uni, I don't need another text book to study :)
    Edited by Garldeen on July 31, 2016 7:50PM
  • acw37162
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    This is not joke while your at it allow players to choose how their armor and weapons look to.
  • Sharee
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    Old farts like me remember MMO's where you could not respec at all, had to level a different character for a different spec, and the leveling took over a year.

    Youth these days, pffft :)

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  • Bromburak
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    Stealthbr wrote: »
    Why is it that we as players need to travel to a major city and pay an exorbitant amount of gold in order to try out a different build?

    Yeah, and why do players need to move a mouse to play, damn activities.

  • ethanthefox
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    I have to disagree with you, its not that costly. Kind of a gold sink and theres must have a couple somewhere. The thing I wish for would be an easy and quick way to switch between gear/skill bars/mundus(?)/cp(?) for pvp and pve. Like you cant swap in cyrodiil, dungeons , vma , etc but can still swap easily in open world.
  • Marktoneth3
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    If someone want to sink gold that much

    why don't you sink gold in my pocket

    I'd love to do that for you
  • stewhead2ub17_ESO
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    Bromburak wrote: »
    Stealthbr wrote: »
    Why is it that we as players need to travel to a major city and pay an exorbitant amount of gold in order to try out a different build?

    Yeah, and why do players need to move a mouse to play, damn activities.

    lol :smiley:
  • snakester320
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    last time i checked it was 1 gold per skill point on ps4 ( stupid me being noob was buy respec scrolls for crowns ) ( yeah you got me ZOS good for you) but attibute points was like 3k gold which is steep for noobs trying to make gold and sort a character out!! NOT everyone is rich !!
  • nimander99
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    I dont know I find it really easy to change skills to be honest...its only a wayshrine away and from what I know last time it was only 1 gold per skill, unless they changed that...

    Wayshrines are sometimes several minute transfers... Which is super duper lame, but I understand you can just buy a respec scroll from the CS anywhere and reset your skills so you don't 'technically' have to wayshrine to respect.
    Edited by nimander99 on August 1, 2016 12:56AM
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    If they lowered the price of gave a certain amount free , you wouldn't see me complain .
  • KingYogi415
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    I think the first 50-75 skillpoints should always be free to respec.

    This would help new players feel free to try more builds and not be stuck into one set.
  • xXMichonneXx
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    Shoot I respect about every other day . It's way cheap now. Good thing since I suck at building characters.
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    Next crown store option: Summonable shrines.
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  • Mandragora
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    I wish there would be free respec at level 50. Now, you have to pay a lot of money and it is not your fault if you make a build, that after some levels you realise, that you don't like it. So atleast 1 free respec - after you know your class already, would be great.
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