It's time to nerf incap strike

BruhItsOver9000

I've always loved playing the stealthy/ninja in games and when i first played eso, i chose the nightblade and i stuck with that choice till now.
This is how everyone dies by nightblades nowadays, fear + incap then Finish with surprise attack. The problem is not fear or surprise attack, it's incap.

It hits way to hard and it costs only 50 ultimate, let me say it again 50 ULTIMATE! Either increase the ult to 100 or reduce the damage by 4k.
Now watch the nightblades flock to defend their OP ult. These are the type of nightblades who switched to magicka when thieves guild dropped. They just follow the majority.

imnotanother

I think every class has a skill that is abused my our less creative players.

Mashille

To be honest. I have more issues with Fear than Incap Strike. Fear is the only thing that actually lets them land it anyway as it's dodgeable. And it being the only CC to go through block is annoying.

TequilaFire

Kind of a baiting post no?
Especially with your last paragraph.

EsoRecon

My main is stamina nightblade (I have 3 stamblades) and I agree something needs to be done about incap.

Rohamad_Ali

You'll have to be quicker then that

GreenSoup2HoT

I prefer DBoS.

BruhItsOver9000

I should of posted this in the alliance war section.

BruhItsOver9000

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Strider_Roshin

It does half the total damage of Dawnbreaker of Smiting, it's dodge-able, and it only hits a single target. No, I think it's quite fine where it's at. The only aspect I find to be overkill about a Nightblade is the fact that catalyst gives you 20 Ultimate when you consume a potion. Considering that Death Stroke only costs 50 Ultimate, I find this to be a bit overkill. However if we're going to do any adjustments how about we change the Master Assassin passive so that it's viable outside of ganking?

I also hear a lot of people getting angry about the Nightblade's burst. Well yeah the Nightblade needs to have phenomenal burst. What else do they have? A defense passive? Nope. A passive that gives them major mending in order to increase their healing in order to make them more survivable? Nope. This class only has burst, and is inherently squishy. You get rid of their burst, and you'll destroy this class. Of course I'm sure that's the inspiration behind a lot of the bickering I read about the Nightblade. A lot of you will just never be satisfied until the day comes where you'll never be killed by a Nightblade again.

And finally, I would like to add that I have never gotten hit hard by Incap. The hardest actually was 10k, and that was from an Emperor! I've gotten hit by plenty of Overload light attacks that have dealt me 10, 11, 12k damage though. Incap isn't over-performing; you guys just need to be better geared.

Anhedonie

No.

attackjet

LMAO. Its dodgeable.

Yeah it hits hard AF, especially after a surprise attack and ambush.

Have you ever been hit by a overload light attack? They hit for 10k at least, and are spammable.

Us night blades are squishy and must wait for the perfect time to use it or it just goes to waste.

Fear isn't broken, its every cc that is broken. Not being able to cc break is a game changer and it happens all the time. But fear takes magicka, and so does cloack, and using either of these 3 times usually drains all magicka. CCing for a nightblade isn't as easy as you think

Jaronking

Plus it barely hits even if you fear someone before hand if their a stam build and have shuffle up 7/10 they dodge it even while feared.

BruhItsOver9000

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

It does half the total damage of Dawnbreaker of Smiting, it's dodge-able, and it only hits a single target. No, I think it's quite fine where it's at. The only aspect I find to be overkill about a Nightblade is the fact that catalyst gives you 20 Ultimate when you consume a potion. Considering that Death Stroke only costs 50 Ultimate, I find this to be a bit overkill. However if we're going to do any adjustments how about we change the Master Assassin passive so that it's viable outside of ganking?

I also hear a lot of people getting angry about the Nightblade's burst. Well yeah the Nightblade needs to have phenomenal burst. What else do they have? A defense passive? Nope. A passive that gives them major mending in order to increase their healing in order to make them more survivable? Nope. This class only has burst, and is inherently squishy. You get rid of their burst, and you'll destroy this class. Of course I'm sure that's the inspiration behind a lot of the bickering I read about the Nightblade. A lot of you will just never be satisfied until the day comes where you'll never be killed by a Nightblade again.

And finally, I would like to add that I have never gotten hit hard by Incap. The hardest actually was 10k, and that was from an Emperor! I've gotten hit by plenty of Overload light attacks that have dealt me 10, 11, 12k damage though. Incap isn't over-performing; you guys just need to be better geared.

It only costs 50 ult though. Every ult is dodgeable except meteor, I've even dodged DBoS.
Imo, increase the ult to 100 and instead of the stun, it should give minor brutality. Also no ones complaining about the
nightblades burst.

juhasman

Another discussion where incap defenders will give stupid reasons why it isnt OP like comparing it to DBoS and none of them mention that this ulti have not only high dmg but too low cost , stun, major defile and increasing dmg by 20% for next few secoonds whcih makes this ulti easy kill button due to fact even if it'll not kill enemie he'll be unable to survive 20% more dmg burst after it with healing reduced by 30%. @Strider_Roshin nb dont have defense passives? Using skills from shadow gives major resists , having skills from siphoning increasing healing done, skills from shadow increasing max hp, skills from assasination increasing crit chance which also allows heals to crit more often.

GreenSoup2HoT

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

However if we're going to do any adjustments how about we change the Master Assassin passive so that it's viable outside of ganking?

A defense passive? Nope.

Master Assassin works with Shadow Cloak. So it does already work outside of ganking. Nightblades defence ability is cloak, fear and most importantly Summon Image. You gain both Major Ward and Resolve for using any Shadow ability too. You also crit all your heals while cloaked which makes up for less healing percentages.

Sylveria_Relden

It's time to nerf threads requesting nerfing.

BruhItsOver9000

Jaronking wrote: »

Plus it barely hits even if you fear someone before hand if their a stam build and have shuffle up 7/10 they dodge it even while feared.

But then you could just pop a potion and get it right back up.

leepalmer95

So if you increase it to 100 why would anyone run it over dawnbreaker?

Funny no one complained about soul harvest last patch.

BruhItsOver9000

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So if you increase it to 100 why would anyone run it over dawnbreaker?

Funny no one complained about soul harvest last patch.

Instead of the stun, it could give minor brutality for ten seconds.

leepalmer95

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So if you increase it to 100 why would anyone run it over dawnbreaker?

Funny no one complained about soul harvest last patch.

Instead of the stun, it could give minor brutality for ten seconds.

Well that a bad morph effect that would be.

It's an ult, soul harvest gets 10 ult per kill.

DannyLV702

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

I never would of thought the Ultimate from the ASSASSINATION skill line would be so good at killing off 1 target.

If anything, i think Fear needs to be easier to break. Fear enables Incap to be landed so easily.

Also, in before the bombardment of DBoS>Incap comments. You about to get roasted.

Its true Incap is over-performing. Incap specifically should of had its damage reduced by 25% when its damage type changed to disease... Zos didnt even account for the cp it could now scale with from Mighty. It should be hitting the same as soul harvest but its not. They reduced Death Strokes damage by 5% which only hurt Magicka Nightblades and left Incap 20% stronger then it was suppose to be.

Doesnt matter though, im still using DBoS. Thats where the money is.

Agreed, I've saved like 5 teammates with DBoS. The stun is amazing.

This is now a nerf Dbos thread. Please change title accordingly. Thanks

BruhItsOver9000

leepalmer95 wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So if you increase it to 100 why would anyone run it over dawnbreaker?

Funny no one complained about soul harvest last patch.

Instead of the stun, it could give minor brutality for ten seconds.

Well that a bad morph effect that would be.

It's an ult, soul harvest gets 10 ult per kill.

But incap hits harder than soul harvest.

leepalmer95

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So if you increase it to 100 why would anyone run it over dawnbreaker?

Funny no one complained about soul harvest last patch.

Instead of the stun, it could give minor brutality for ten seconds.

Well that a bad morph effect that would be.

It's an ult, soul harvest gets 10 ult per kill.

But incap hits harder than soul harvest.

No it doesn't they have the same tooltip...

BruhItsOver9000

leepalmer95 wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So if you increase it to 100 why would anyone run it over dawnbreaker?

Funny no one complained about soul harvest last patch.

Instead of the stun, it could give minor brutality for ten seconds.

Well that a bad morph effect that would be.

It's an ult, soul harvest gets 10 ult per kill.

But incap hits harder than soul harvest.

No it doesn't they have the same tooltip...

No. Incap hits harder then harvest because stam users can get more damage then a magicka user.

Voxicity

ZOS please nerf nerf threads about nerfing incap strike

BruhItsOver9000

KaiVox22 wrote: »

ZOS please nerf nerf threads about nerfing incap strike

You can't nerf this thread because i control ZOS.












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Rohamad_Ali

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Gulkrim-mur

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

I've always loved playing the stealthy/ninja in games and when i first played eso, i chose the nightblade and i stuck with that choice till now.
This is how everyone dies by nightblades nowadays, fear + incap then Finish with surprise attack. The problem is not fear or surprise attack, it's incap.

It hits way to hard and it costs only 50 ultimate, let me say it again 50 ULTIMATE! Either increase th

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

I've always loved playing the stealthy/ninja in games and when i first played eso, i chose the nightblade and i stuck with that choice till now.
This is how everyone dies by nightblades nowadays, fear + incap then Finish with surprise attack. The problem is not fear or surprise attack, it's incap.

It hits way to hard and it costs only 50 ultimate, let me say it again 50 ULTIMATE! Either increase the ult to 100 or reduce the damage by 4k.
Now watch the nightblades flock to defend their OP ult. These are the type of nightblades who switched to magicka when thieves guild dropped. They just follow the majority.

Incap can be dodged also blocking helps. Btw not ever build is viable all ways. I can smash nightblades on my stam dk. Incap tickles with 40k hp n 22k res.

Idk what you play as or your build but i hope you make use of shield n heals. No reason to be rinsed that quick by a nightblade even if they use their ult

leepalmer95

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So if you increase it to 100 why would anyone run it over dawnbreaker?

Funny no one complained about soul harvest last patch.

Instead of the stun, it could give minor brutality for ten seconds.

Well that a bad morph effect that would be.

It's an ult, soul harvest gets 10 ult per kill.

But incap hits harder than soul harvest.

No it doesn't they have the same tooltip...

No. Incap hits harder then harvest because stam users can get more damage then a magicka user.

Stam users have 12% wpn dmg, magicka users have 5.2k penetration.

If you build for dmg they hit the same.

Jaronking

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Plus it barely hits even if you fear someone before hand if their a stam build and have shuffle up 7/10 they dodge it even while feared.

But then you could just pop a potion and get it right back up.

No you won't because a potion will only give you back 20 ultimate not the full 50.