Skills for stamina DK using 2H/bow and heavy armor

Holycannoli

I'm still new to stamina dragonknights since I've focused exclusively on my sorcerer, and the last time I played my DK was very long ago and he was magicka (he still has destruction staff skills equipped). He's currently a low level, orc stamina DK who will be using 2H/bow and heavy armor (optimal or not, that's what he's using). I know the 2H and bow skills I'll use but what about DK? I've seen some builds that don't even use DK ultimates - they use dawnbreaker of smiting (or flawless) and werewolf.

I'd be a werewolf if it helped. Not sure it will though since poison is everywhere in Cyrodiil. Transforming into a werewolf seems like a death sentence.

I'll be using crit rush, dizzying swing and maybe rally for 2H bar and poison injection and maybe lethal arrow for bow bar. No ultimates chosen yet and I don't know a thing about DK stamina skills. Like I said, last time I really played my DK he was magicka and it was a long, long time ago, back when stamina was really not an option.

Not really worried about PvE. I want this guy to exist in Cyrodiil and maybe IC when I get it.

Gear sets are a consideration but he will have to rely on crafted gear for a while (he's a blacksmith), but any insight into sets is appreciated. I'll probably use Hunding's for a while.

AverageJo3Gam3r

Best heavy set right now is black rose. Gives you everything you need.

For stamDK for 2H/bow, this is a pretty standard setup:

Bar 1: stampede, executioner, dizzying swing, rally, flex, leap or dawnbreaker

Bar 2: poison injection, shuffle, flex, igneous shield, vigor, corrosive armor or werewolf

Flex spots can be wings, volatile armor, caltrops, one of your poison DoTs, rearming trap, rapid maneuvers, or anything else you want.

Lokey0024

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

Best heavy set right now is black rose. Gives you everything you need.

For stamDK for 2H/bow, this is a pretty standard setup:

Bar 1: stampede, executioner, dizzying swing, rally, flex, leap or dawnbreaker

Bar 2: poison injection, shuffle, flex, igneous shield, vigor, corrosive armor or werewolf

Flex spots can be wings, volatile armor, caltrops, one of your poison DoTs, rearming trap, rapid maneuvers, or anything else you want.

Holycannoli

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

Best heavy set right now is black rose. Gives you everything you need.

For stamDK for 2H/bow, this is a pretty standard setup:

Bar 1: stampede, executioner, dizzying swing, rally, flex, leap or dawnbreaker

Bar 2: poison injection, shuffle, flex, igneous shield, vigor, corrosive armor or werewolf

Flex spots can be wings, volatile armor, caltrops, one of your poison DoTs, rearming trap, rapid maneuvers, or anything else you want.

He has crit rush and reverse slice instead of stampede and executioner, but other than that it's similar to what I have in mind.

Where do you get Black Rose? Is that craftable? NM I see it's from IC. I'll have to get it.

KundaliniHero

Holycannoli wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

Best heavy set right now is black rose. Gives you everything you need.

For stamDK for 2H/bow, this is a pretty standard setup:

Bar 1: stampede, executioner, dizzying swing, rally, flex, leap or dawnbreaker

Bar 2: poison injection, shuffle, flex, igneous shield, vigor, corrosive armor or werewolf

Flex spots can be wings, volatile armor, caltrops, one of your poison DoTs, rearming trap, rapid maneuvers, or anything else you want.

He has crit rush and reverse slice instead of stampede and executioner, but other than that it's similar to what I have in mind.

Where do you get Black Rose? Is that craftable?

You can get black rose from the telvar dealers in the sewers, its 5000 stones per piece but well worth the investment - all pieces come in impenetrable.

I would highly recommend taking reverse slice, it's really GOOD.
Also I would choose DBoS over leap or DB its really difficult to block, has a built in stun and the dot is nasty.

Holycannoli

How about champ points? There are a lot of ways to go. I love everything about The Lady and I could maybe duplicate what I did for my stamina sorc because it feels this stamina DK is similar in many ways.

AverageJo3Gam3r

@Holycannoli I like stampede because the snare helps land dizzying swing.

Holycannoli

Yeah I do notice myself missing a lot of dizzying swings lately. I might want to respec it for my DK. For my sorc crit rush works nicely with crit surge (when I'm using that skill which isn't always).

Waffennacht

I have a really hard time connecting dizzying swing. Good players can walk around/through it. In a group it's an amazing spam however.

I'm running a hybrid sorc that seems very similar to DK. I also use Crit rush and executioner. I usually only go with instant cast moves.

DboS is the ult to go with, dragon leap is good but I don't see it landing as much as it use to.

I'm on the fence for black rose. Sure I like the set bonus, however (unless it's been updated) no jewelry or weapons means you won't be able to combine it with a full crafted set.

Jewelry crafting would be nice... Personally wouldn't drop rose for TBS, but if only we could combine the two...

Toc de Malsvi

Waffennacht wrote: »

I have a really hard time connecting dizzying swing. Good players can walk around/through it. In a group it's an amazing spam however.

I'm running a hybrid sorc that seems very similar to DK. I also use Crit rush and executioner. I usually only go with instant cast moves.

DboS is the ult to go with, dragon leap is good but I don't see it landing as much as it use to.

I'm on the fence for black rose. Sure I like the set bonus, however (unless it's been updated) no jewelry or weapons means you won't be able to combine it with a full crafted set.

Jewelry crafting would be nice... Personally wouldn't drop rose for TBS, but if only we could combine the two...

That only works if they are not snared, otherwise they will have to dodgeroll, CC, block, or use immovable potion. That is why you would use stampede.

DboS is the ult to go with, dragon leap is good but I don't see it landing as much as it use to.

This is because it needs to be setup, it can be easily dodge rolled if you don't set it up with a CC. The best combo for dragon leap is to use a DizzyingSwing into a dragon leap which will often hit them before they hit the ground.

DboS is much harder to miss with than Dragon Leap but has less instant damage and thus is more prone to be survived from a healing standpoint.