[Videos] Stam NB and Stam DK Outnumbered PvP!

LeifErickson

Hey guys!

I'd like to share my most recent pvp videos with you all. One is my stam DK and one is my stam NB. I hope you enjoy them!

Stamina Dragonknight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBhcmm8O1Pk

Stamina Nightblade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1D617e5fhw

KenaPKK

Double Leif vids? Wot? I'm excited!

Aerem

Quality vids yet again.
Way to deliver.
You considered going S&B on stamblade at all?

Aerem

Also that eternal hunt/ shadow image movement was OP at the end. sheesh.

LeifErickson

Aerem wrote: »

Quality vids yet again.
Way to deliver.
You considered going S&B on stamblade at all?

Thank you!

And I have considered it, but I like the movement speed of my current setup.

LeifErickson

KenaPKK wrote: »

Double Leif vids? Wot? I'm excited!

You should be

GreenSoup2HoT

I always get excited to see stam nb videos but then get extremely dissapointed to see the exact same bar setup in every video. I like the use of summon image but id really like to see somthing different.

LeifErickson

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

I always get excited to see stam nb videos but then get extremely dissapointed to see the exact same bar setup in every video. I like the use of summon image but id really like to see somthing different.

I guess it's just the way I like to play and it works really well. What do you like to run?

Rohamad_Ali

Hold the transit shine ... Weren't you the guy wanting to remove major evasion from the game ? If so why are you running shuffle ?

Ishammael

Good stuff, mate.

The first clip against Bee and Ren was especially good. There were several moments which you could (should) have lost the fight. Main one was when you were flat on your ass and got hit with a meteor... Which you dodged via shuffle. You only took dmg from one tick of the ground DoT.

LeifErickson

Ishammael wrote: »

Good stuff, mate.

The first clip against Bee and Ren was especially good. There were several moments which you could (should) have lost the fight. Main one was when you were flat on your ass and got hit with a meteor... Which you dodged via shuffle. You only took dmg from one tick of the ground DoT.

I watched that part again and I see two different damage numbers from Ice Comet shown on the FTC floating numbers. One of them was 2.9k and the other was 792. The 2.9k appeared right after I got hit so I think that was actually just how much damage the initial hit did. Otherwise that could have been a crit from the ground DoT and the 792 was not a crit. That is a really big difference in damage, though.

Thanks for the kind words.

LeifErickson

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Hold the transit shine ... Weren't you the guy wanting to remove major evasion from the game ? If so why are you running shuffle ?

Yes I was. I run shuffle to remove snares and roots. If I had to roll dodge every time I got rooted on my DK I would never have any stamina. But the 20% dodge chance is also too good not to use. There were also many good points made in that thread that kind of swayed my opinion about it. But there is nothing actually wrong with shuffle (as in it isn't bugged or anything as far as I know), so I will use it because I would be stupid not to.

Rohamad_Ali

LeifErickson wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Hold the transit shine ... Weren't you the guy wanting to remove major evasion from the game ? If so why are you running shuffle ?

Yes I was. I run shuffle to remove snares and roots. If I had to roll dodge every time I got rooted on my DK I would never have any stamina. But the 20% dodge chance is also too good not to use. There were also many good points made in that thread that kind of swayed my opinion about it. But there is nothing actually wrong with shuffle (as in it isn't bugged or anything as far as I know), so I will use it because I would be stupid not to.

Well ok . Just wondered why . Good video by the way . Great resource management .

LeifErickson

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Hold the transit shine ... Weren't you the guy wanting to remove major evasion from the game ? If so why are you running shuffle ?

Yes I was. I run shuffle to remove snares and roots. If I had to roll dodge every time I got rooted on my DK I would never have any stamina. But the 20% dodge chance is also too good not to use. There were also many good points made in that thread that kind of swayed my opinion about it. But there is nothing actually wrong with shuffle (as in it isn't bugged or anything as far as I know), so I will use it because I would be stupid not to.

Well ok . Just wondered why . Good video by the way . Great resource management .

Thank you that means a lot.

MaximillianDiE

Great video. You are excellent at managing your resources while still excelling at damage reduction and doing a truck load of damage. I've just started playing a stam nb after playing stam dk for ages 2 days ago and find myself constantly running low on stamina with no igneous to fall back on. Its certainly not as easy as you make it look!

KenaPKK

@Roehamad_Ali Leif is always talking about how dumb rng dodge and CP are. He loves playing on Azura's and dueling without Shuffle when I take off snares like Cripple. Stam classes are just too reliant on the dodge chance when outnumbered and the snare removal pretty much always to not run Shuffle in open world.

Rohamad_Ali

I'm not getting into that on this Gentlemans thread any further Kena . I understand the debate , you have your opinions and I have mine . I enjoy watching good play style and these videos deliver .

KenaPKK

I am simply defending Leif. He uses Shuffle open world because he feels he has to in order to remain competitive in the current state of the game. He often doesn't use it in duels, and he prefers Azura's to CP campaigns. There is no inconsistency between his walk and his talk.

GreenSoup2HoT

LeifErickson wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

I always get excited to see stam nb videos but then get extremely dissapointed to see the exact same bar setup in every video. I like the use of summon image but id really like to see somthing different.

I guess it's just the way I like to play and it works really well. What do you like to run?

I run DW/2H. It's technically a gank/in&out build with very high burst, purely for open world game-play. I don't really like to tell people what i run.. maybe one day i'll create a video like you have and showcase how i like to play. It's a very none-meta setup, that's all i'll say.

I guess i'm just tired of the whole 2h/bow scene. Poison Injection and Executioner are both over-performing in my opinion. I dunno.. i don't wanna go to far off topic. I guess im like a Hipster of Eso.

I liked the video, i was just hoping for something different is all. Something a little more innovative then the standard nightblade videos out there. You kicked some booty though .

LeifErickson

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

I always get excited to see stam nb videos but then get extremely dissapointed to see the exact same bar setup in every video. I like the use of summon image but id really like to see somthing different.

I guess it's just the way I like to play and it works really well. What do you like to run?

I run DW/2H. It's technically a gank/in&out build with very high burst, purely for open world game-play. I don't really like to tell people what i run.. maybe one day i'll create a video like you have and showcase how i like to play. It's a very none-meta setup, that's all i'll say.

I guess i'm just tired of the whole 2h/bow scene. Poison Injection and Executioner are both over-performing in my opinion. I dunno.. i don't wanna go to far off topic. I guess im like a Hipster of Eso.

I liked the video, i was just hoping for something different is all. Something a little more innovative then the standard nightblade videos out there. You kicked some booty though .

I agree that poison injection and executioner are very strong. I would always love to use a class ability (killer's blade) over a weapon ability, but I also don't want to gimp myself. I have seen a lot of stamblades even using crit rush over ambush and that makes me sad. But I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

LeifErickson

MaximillianDiE wrote: »

Great video. You are excellent at managing your resources while still excelling at damage reduction and doing a truck load of damage. I've just started playing a stam nb after playing stam dk for ages 2 days ago and find myself constantly running low on stamina with no igneous to fall back on. Its certainly not as easy as you make it look!

Thank you, that means a lot! I actually got one of my friends to reroll stamblade and he says he is constantly out of stamina all the time. I guess I have just been playing stamblade for a really long time.

LeifErickson

KenaPKK wrote: »

I am simply defending Leif. He uses Shuffle open world because he feels he has to in order to remain competitive in the current state of the game. He often doesn't use it in duels, and he prefers Azura's to CP campaigns. There is no inconsistency between his walk and his talk.

I can't wait for 30 more cp next update! Yay for more cp in pvp and making content like vMaw and vMA easier! (sarcasm)

Ishammael

LeifErickson wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Good stuff, mate.

The first clip against Bee and Ren was especially good. There were several moments which you could (should) have lost the fight. Main one was when you were flat on your ass and got hit with a meteor... Which you dodged via shuffle. You only took dmg from one tick of the ground DoT.

I watched that part again and I see two different damage numbers from Ice Comet shown on the FTC floating numbers. One of them was 2.9k and the other was 792. The 2.9k appeared right after I got hit so I think that was actually just how much damage the initial hit did. Otherwise that could have been a crit from the ground DoT and the 792 was not a crit. That is a really big difference in damage, though.

Thanks for the kind words.

Ah i see. I assumed that the 2.9k was the DoT tick.

Anyway, Kena invited me to Legion so maybe we can play sometime.

LeifErickson

Ishammael wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Good stuff, mate.

The first clip against Bee and Ren was especially good. There were several moments which you could (should) have lost the fight. Main one was when you were flat on your ass and got hit with a meteor... Which you dodged via shuffle. You only took dmg from one tick of the ground DoT.

I watched that part again and I see two different damage numbers from Ice Comet shown on the FTC floating numbers. One of them was 2.9k and the other was 792. The 2.9k appeared right after I got hit so I think that was actually just how much damage the initial hit did. Otherwise that could have been a crit from the ground DoT and the 792 was not a crit. That is a really big difference in damage, though.

Thanks for the kind words.

Ah i see. I assumed that the 2.9k was the DoT tick.

Anyway, Kena invited me to Legion so maybe we can play sometime.

Definitely. We have to get some Legion groups going.

KenaPKK

The DC groups in the DK vid were Legion groups. You should jump in there, Ish. @BurritoESO look, you're getting carried at pee vee pee.

Waylander

Good vids, these deliver.

Good resource management as others have stated.

In relation to comments on NB bar set-up, they are all pretty similar because they are so effective. I've tried running no fear / no shade, even no surprise attack (and, although I would advise against it, no impen) lately and it is still very effective, but limits your 1vX effectiveness when you fight more than 2-3 as those tools are all pretty essential in outnumbered engagements. It is effective as stamblade feels like it is over-performing in the burst department (if you build for it) due to the low cost of incap strike, the damage it does and its low cost.

LeifErickson

Waylander wrote: »

Good vids, these deliver.

Good resource management as others have stated.

In relation to comments on NB bar set-up, they are all pretty similar because they are so effective. I've tried running no fear / no shade, even no surprise attack (and, although I would advise against it, no impen) lately and it is still very effective, but limits your 1vX effectiveness when you fight more than 2-3 as those tools are all pretty essential in outnumbered engagements. It is effective as stamblade feels like it is over-performing in the burst department (if you build for it) due to the low cost of incap strike, the damage it does and its low cost.

I feel like you can make anything work as long as you are fighting the right opponents. But yes, the bar setup I'm using is just so effective. I'm glad you enjoyed the videos!