Question to lore nerds regarding our character

Aliyavana

So I wanted to ask, was our character in many places at once within the other factions story line? After the mq, we were told that no one would recongnize you and you were essentially were not known. After finishing up both questlines and doing dlc, All characters regardless of what faction they belong to recongnize you. As an ad character both raz, naryu, the vanos, that dc crew, etc, all recongnize you instead of just the faction you belong to so unless this was an oversight, the meridian cloak obviously did not successfully hide your identity. So does our character have the ability to travel in time?

EternalEther

If time travel was involved, and I think it would have to be, then it would be Meridia's ability, not our characters. But I'm the furthest thing from a lore expert.

SubtleHate

I think that the fact that NPC's recognize you is more of a technical oversight by ZOS. The NPC's all are programmed the same way.
If you want to look at it from a lore perspective, I think it would make sense to assume that you aren't forgotten in the sense that no one remembers who you are at all, you're forgotten in the sense that the enemy factions don't remember who you are outside of what you do for their specific faction.

I_killed_Vivec

I noticed that Raz recognized me when doing a DLC quest and I asked what he would have said, as a quest giver, if I hadn't met him.

Apparently he's still there, and gives you the quest, he just doesn't welcome you as an old friend.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Magic

Cazzy

Theory is it's a Dragon Break: "A Dragon Break, sometimes referred to as an un-time, is a temporal phenomenon that involves a splitting of the natural timeline which results in branching parallel realities where the same events occur differently, or not at all. This results in a return to the non-linear timeline of the Dawn Era. At the end of a Dragon Break, the timeline reconnects making all possibilities and outcomes truth, though contradictory to each other. The "Dragon" that is mentioned is in reference towards Akatosh, the Dragon God of Time."

Madness1

I don't think it was time travel, I think it's more of a 3 places at one time thing. It's pretty safe to say, if it wasn't for the player character all the factions wouldn't even exist. Think about it, the player ended rebellions, defeated Daedra, destroyed an army of undead, and killed a coven of hag crow things. I'd argue if you weren't involved the war could've finished sooner.

Madness1

Sorry a correction, I said "wouldn't even exist". What I meant to say was that they wouldn't have lasted as long, if at all.

CasNation

I personally beleive that you do all the factions "simultaneously" once you beat the main quest, but those eventualities don't exist until you make the choice to pursue them.

Time overall is really squiffy in ESO (probably a Dragonbreak, but that is speculation). For example, Gabrielle Benele in Anvil says her sister is a week late and was sent by the guild to Craglorn. But we know that Craglorn, and Sarah Benele's quest, happens about a year before Orsinium and DB (going by in game book dates at least), so how is her sister only a week late?

I am am going off of memory here, so someone correct me of I am wrong on the timeline bits...

I am also of the opinion that Meridia actually kept your soul at the end of the main quest...but that is a topic for another time...

bebynnag

Wizzards are to blame, its always the Wizzards!

waterfairy

It's just gameplay, not mystical lore. It's the same as me doing a quest where I had to choose if Razum Dar lives or dies and in a later quest within the same faction he's alive and well. I guess I wasn't supposed to choose sacrifice?

Don't think too deeply on retcon mmo quests as they don't really fit with lore.

CasNation

I guess I would also argue that all of our characters are all actually one being that exists as multiple entities simultaneously. So yeah, the factions all happened all at once, but that didn't happen until after the meeting on Stirk at least.

bertenburnyb16_ESO

dont think Zos gave the issue of doing 3 alliance on 1 char much thought....

Aliyavana

CasNation wrote: »

I personally beleive that you do all the factions "simultaneously" once you beat the main quest, but those eventualities don't exist until you make the choice to pursue them.

Time overall is really squiffy in ESO (probably a Dragonbreak, but that is speculation). For example, Gabrielle Benele in Anvil says her sister is a week late and was sent by the guild to Craglorn. But we know that Craglorn, and Sarah Benele's quest, happens about a year before Orsinium and DB (going by in game book dates at least), so how is her sister only a week late?

I am am going off of memory here, so someone correct me of I am wrong on the timeline bits...

I am also of the opinion that Meridia actually kept your soul at the end of the main quest...but that is a topic for another time...

Really? Hmm that's interesting, any other time inconcestancies?

rhapsodious

Vigarr wrote: »

It's just gameplay, not mystical lore. It's the same as me doing a quest where I had to choose if Razum Dar lives or dies and in a later quest within the same faction he's alive and well. I guess I wasn't supposed to choose sacrifice?

Don't think too deeply on retcon mmo quests as they don't really fit with lore.

He explains that he got out at the last second if you talk to him in Dune. Which admittedly is a bit of hand-waving, but the game does recognize your decision. The outcome is mostly just "is Raz pissed off at you or not?"

arcadiadark wrote: »

Really? Hmm that's interesting, any other time inconcestancies?

Mm, it's not really a concrete-date inconsistency, but pretty much any quest that relies on characters from a previous plotline will have some amount of "wait, what?" going on.

Ex. you can skip Bleakrock entirely and still meet Aera/do all that fun stuff in The Rift, and she'll go on about how Bleakrock and her family were destroyed. Then you can... go to a very un-destroyed Bleakrock.

Pretty sure if you played your cards right you could have two Silvenars/Green Ladies alive, too.

Duiwel

Lore wise - can't answer

Practical RL reason?

It's simple really, reprogramming every main quest zone ect. would literally have to be another phase then for every alliance and every NPC involved with quest dialog.

Short answer that's impractical.

Just be happy you can do all 3 on one char

Bonzodog01

I think its meridias little gift, that crystal in the harborage - it sends you back in time by the few weeks you took to do the main quest (it seems to be around 3 or 4 weeks that the alliance story spans). So yeah, you go back in time to do gold and silver.

However, with One Tamriel, this won't really be an issue, as you can do all the zones simultaneously once that happens.

Bromburak

arcadiadark wrote: »

So does our character have the ability to travel in time?

Yeah, the worm holes cause the lag in Cyrodiil.

I_killed_Vivec

Madness1 wrote: »

I don't think it was time travel, I think it's more of a 3 places at one time thing. It's pretty safe to say, if it wasn't for the player character all the factions wouldn't even exist. Think about it, the player ended rebellions, defeated Daedra, destroyed an army of undead, and killed a coven of hag crow things. I'd argue if you weren't involved the war could've finished sooner.

What if you skipped Cadwell's and ran off to grind through the levels in Craglorn?

But you're right, Meridia puts you in the position to save the lives of each of the faction leaders... it's a Daedric plot I tell you! They want us to fight!

Not me. I won't play their game any longer. I won't fight for their entertainment! I'm staying out of Cyrodiil!

Seamonkey001

puffytheslayer wrote: »

Wizzards are to blame, its always the Wizzards!

I believe you are following the wrong game good sir, lol.

notimetocare

Easy answer: MOST of the situation with the main quest and cadwells is mechanics not lore.

EternalEther

Madness1 wrote: »

I don't think it was time travel, I think it's more of a 3 places at one time thing.

But how could you be in three places at once, if not for time travel? Even if Meridia just makes a copy of you, she'd have to send it back, right? Also, if you don't do DC as your faction then when you do DC areas for Cadwell's silver or gold, you'll

encounter Darien after he disappeared in the final battle.