AD and Tanks.

Tiitus

This faction suffers immensely from the lack of tanks due in part becuz there is no race that promotes tanking with its passive 2 of them focus on assassin/stealth gameplay (with one having small amount of health passive, was khajit really ment to be AD's tank option?) and the other having a heavy focus on magicka, yur relying on ppl who have the "Any race, Any alliance" and "imperial race" to take up these rolls, with the exception of a few oddballs running an AD race as tank.

Brrrofski

Isn't any race any alliance like standard anyway?

Vercingetorix

Altmer NB Saptank - not the best race choice for a saptank, but honestly the NB class passives are OP enough that any race can make it work. A 10% magicka bonus will greatly assist in maintaining important buffs - if you are trying to not use "Any Race/Alliance".

Tiitus

Brrrofski wrote: »

Isn't any race any alliance like standard anyway?

no its crown store, you'd be surprised at how many do not have it. have an DC and EP char the veriety in classes on both of those factions is healthy tanks will always be in demand no matter what, but AD all you see is sorcerer and nightblades, with a few temps and DKs thrown in there.

Amsel_McKay

Tiitus wrote: »

This faction suffers immensely from the lack of tanks due in part becuz there is no race that promotes tanking with its passive 2 of them focus on assassin/stealth gameplay (with one having small amount of health passive, was khajit really ment to be AD's tank option?) and the other having a heavy focus on magicka, yur relying on ppl who have the "Any race, Any alliance" and "imperial race" to take up these rolls, with the exception of a few oddballs running an AD race as tank.

This is a Min/Max issue ANY race can tank really well. If you MUST have the best possible stat then you can buy any race any alliance.

Vildebill

You could tank with any race in AD, you could tank with any race period.

I've tanked most dungeons and trials in game with my Khajiit DK, and I did it with my old VR14 hist bark and VR13/14 footmans from VR16 introduction until like a month ago when I obviously wasn't warhorning enough and had to be the tava's guy like everyone else :P

Tiitus

Amsel_McKay wrote: »

Tiitus wrote: »

This faction suffers immensely from the lack of tanks due in part becuz there is no race that promotes tanking with its passive 2 of them focus on assassin/stealth gameplay (with one having small amount of health passive, was khajit really ment to be AD's tank option?) and the other having a heavy focus on magicka, yur relying on ppl who have the "Any race, Any alliance" and "imperial race" to take up these rolls, with the exception of a few oddballs running an AD race as tank.

This is a Min/Max issue ANY race can tank really well. If you MUST have the best possible stat then you can buy any race any alliance.

with the removal of softcap it made passives something to consider when choosing a play style, yes you can be an altmer stamina DK tank but a class like imperial,redguard,orc will have alot easier time at it with the health and stamina increase. its not really about min/maxing, its about what race/class combo will benefit yur group more and not cause an unnecessary burden on yur healer.

idk

Tiitus wrote: »

Amsel_McKay wrote: »

Tiitus wrote: »

This faction suffers immensely from the lack of tanks due in part becuz there is no race that promotes tanking with its passive 2 of them focus on assassin/stealth gameplay (with one having small amount of health passive, was khajit really ment to be AD's tank option?) and the other having a heavy focus on magicka, yur relying on ppl who have the "Any race, Any alliance" and "imperial race" to take up these rolls, with the exception of a few oddballs running an AD race as tank.

This is a Min/Max issue ANY race can tank really well. If you MUST have the best possible stat then you can buy any race any alliance.

with the removal of softcap it made passives something to consider when choosing a play style, yes you can be an altmer stamina DK tank but a class like imperial,redguard,orc will have alot easier time at it with the health and stamina increase. its not really about min/maxing, its about what race/class combo will benefit yur group more and not cause an unnecessary burden on yur healer.

Yes, racial passives became more valuable with the removal of soft cap but people still tank on pretty much anything. Basically, race choice is not that big of an issue and my guess is your opinion in the opening post is not an accurate assessment of tank availability in the faction compared to any other faction.

If you are a commenting on how hard it is to find a tank for a pledge of ny 4 man dungeon, it is normal to be short on tanks. First, tanks are generally less available than healers with dps being a dime a dozen when talking about 4 man content. It is normal for any game I have played.

AmmonErebos

Also, with cross faction dungeons/cross faction group finder and "One Tamriel" coming soon... all your arguments are really irrelevant

AlnilamE

First of all, you can group with people from any alliance for dungeons now.

Second, Khajiit DK tank here, though she's still low level.

Unless you are talking PvP tanks. Then you can't cross faction, obviously.

Tiitus

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Tiitus wrote: »

Amsel_McKay wrote: »

Tiitus wrote: »

This faction suffers immensely from the lack of tanks due in part becuz there is no race that promotes tanking with its passive 2 of them focus on assassin/stealth gameplay (with one having small amount of health passive, was khajit really ment to be AD's tank option?) and the other having a heavy focus on magicka, yur relying on ppl who have the "Any race, Any alliance" and "imperial race" to take up these rolls, with the exception of a few oddballs running an AD race as tank.

This is a Min/Max issue ANY race can tank really well. If you MUST have the best possible stat then you can buy any race any alliance.

with the removal of softcap it made passives something to consider when choosing a play style, yes you can be an altmer stamina DK tank but a class like imperial,redguard,orc will have alot easier time at it with the health and stamina increase. its not really about min/maxing, its about what race/class combo will benefit yur group more and not cause an unnecessary burden on yur healer.

Yes, racial passives became more valuable with the removal of soft cap but people still tank on pretty much anything. Basically, race choice is not that big of an issue and my guess is your opinion in the opening post is not an accurate assessment of tank availability in the faction compared to any other faction.

If you are a commenting on how hard it is to find a tank for a pledge of ny 4 man dungeon, it is normal to be short on tanks. First, tanks are generally less available than healers with dps being a dime a dozen when talking about 4 man content. It is normal for any game I have played.

i was making an observation, did not state it was accurate, its more of a concern.. that being said if the dungeon finder actually wrked properly then this would be a non issue and i would've never made this, but since anything that is not a tank is limited to spamming LFG in /z chat well... its more noticable on AD

ListerJMC

I'm an Altmer magicka DK tank, and I've been in dungeons with Bosmer and Khajiit tanks who did just fine. One of the best pug tanks I've been grouped with was a khajiit actually.

But as others have said cross-faction grouping can get you a min/max race tank.

susmitds

Tanking itself is not much competitive enough to require racial passives anyway.

Schemering

There is lack of reason to tank; all dungeons are too easy atm for real tanks if they have a solid group, they can be done either without tank or a pseudo tank in light or medium armor (a dd with a taunt on bar)

I rarely log in on my tank, only sometimes to help some people that dont know a dungeon well. I like it more to do 15-25k dps while tanking bosses in dungs in light armor on a nb: then at least there is a risk of a oneshot if i make a mistake

The nerfing of dungeons has made many people neglect their tank or transform it into a dd that occasionally puts a taunt on a bar. It is really unfortunate as not all people know the dungeions well and those who dont can use a solid tank while learning