Argonian eye issues compiled! BUG REPORT

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Alright here we go again! I took some real time and sat down to edit pictures and make sure I capture as much of the argonian eye issues as I could find. We got a few issues from some eye types being cross eyed, to others having strange black dots appear in the corner. I figured now would be a good time to shed some light on this issue with the incoming race change option and the argonian buff, I am sure lots of people will reroll argonian and will be happy if zos finally does something about this. These picture were taken of the same argonian, from the same angle, but with different face options. They were also all captured while the eyes were "centered"(I do know that his eyes look to their right and then snap back to the center). An understanding of left and right will be needed further ahead, also know the difference between "his left" and "our left"(those are actually opposite directions in this case).

First have a look at the "soft" eyes



Pretty decent actually, but you will notice what is off about them in the next pictures. You may notice that his right pupil is situated close to the center of his face while his left pupil is directly in the middle of his eye. It is very unclear to me what causes this, but I came up with some ideas. First it could just be that while the eyes are "centered" your character is actually just looking slightly to his left, you will see that this is wrong though in a later picture. It also could be that the art was messed up some how during creation, maybe two "left" or "right" pupils got used instead of 1 left and one right. I am no expert on how they were made, but clearly mistakes must have been made somewhere, but on to the next picture!




See in this picture you can see that while the eyes are shifting all the way to his right there is a strange black dot visible(pointed to by the green arrow). I can't think of any reason that would be there, but it does suggest that I am right about CRITICAL ERRORS being made during the creation of the eyes on the argonian model. I really only payed attention to the argonian eyes as it is my favorite race, but for all I know this could be a rampant issue amongst all races. NEXT



Of all the eyes possible with male argonians I feel the "heroic" eyes have it the worst. You probably can notice that his eyes are suffering the same issue as seen in the first picture, only reversed this time. Now his right pupil appears to be properly centered, but his left pupil is grazing off to his left. Perhaps I am wrong and maybe the left pupil is actually centered and the right pupil is off, like with the soft eye option(I honestly don't know which pupil is behaving correctly, but I do know one of them is going its own way). Also take note that his right pupil is vertical while his left pupil is at an angle. Anyone know how the pupils could be at different angles? That cannot possibly have been intentional and it causes our hero to look very derpy. Also something I only noticed due to the cropping on this picture, it appears as though default faces start with a slight amount of eyebrow skew, even though I previously thought that bar always started in the center. If this is true then there is a good chance almost every single argonian character made has skewed eyebrows due to people avoiding that slider like its a plague(I mean honestly who would want one eye brow ALWAYS higher or lower then another, I just ignore that option anytime I make a new guy anyways). All I can say about that is I am sure glad appearance change is coming, but Next lets look at the "angular" eyes.



This is as close to perfection as you can get with argonian eye options. I cannot see anything wrong here, but I took this picture to show how the eyes are supposed to be centered and not looking off in weird directions. This picture proves that when your characters eyes snap to the center, he is supposed to be looking straight and not off to the left/right as with the other two eye options.

There are "hybrid" eyes that occur when you place the face triangle in weird locations, but I couldn't be bothered to try and track down each and every single one. I am sure though that if these problems occur with the pure eyes, then the hybrid ones are probably just as messy. Point of all this is, zos messed up the art on argonian eyes and that is a fact. I am sure all of you argonian reroll healers that will be popping up after the hist patch would very much appreciate(as would I) if zos could AT LEAST acknowledge that there is a problem here. We won't expect an instant fix, but if they can just sit down and figure out what exactly is wrong so that it can be fixed in the future, we could all rest easy knowing corrective eye surgery is on the way!

josefcifkaeb17_ESO

Learn to live with it. If they haven't corrected the eye glitches in helmets (hence the black eyes, a 2 years old temporary solution) they won't bother to change something so insignificant.

LordSock

Wow, you are either very passionate about this eye thing, or have a lot of spare time on your hands. :P

Cazzy

This poor Argonian must be so self-conscious right now.

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josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

Learn to live with it. If they haven't corrected the eye glitches in helmets (hence the black eyes, a 2 years old temporary solution) they won't bother to change something so insignificant.

It would be keeping the tradition of elderscrolls/bethesda games being buggy messes........ but its high time they start fixing bugs! Sure they can fix that helmet bug too! I honestly never heard of that one, but if you slap a picture on here maybe they will take note of it. If not then at least I will be aware of it.

Ok, no I looked it up, those black eyes are supposed to be that way because if they weren't then the eyes wouldn't line up everytime.

Carl-lan

Are you serious?

Rohamad_Ali

This is the second time I've seen this but not seen the issue .

Majic

The eyes are the windows of the soul, and the imperfections we see in them are but ripples upon the surface of the river within which we all swim.

Stay moist.

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Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

This is the second time I've seen this but not seen the issue .

So you are telling me, you can't even see the black dot in the corner of the pupil of soft eyes on picture two? Its being pointed too by a big green arrow for crying out loud. Maybe it is harder to see for some people and I need to take into account not everyone has 20 20 vision as I do, but damn I thought it couldn't be more obvious with an arrow pointing it out. Look at your own eyes in the mirror, look straight into your own eyes and take note of how that looks. Then come back and look at how the argonian eyes look while they are supposed to be straight. Assuming you aren't cross eyed both of your pupils should be centered in your sockets, while argonian heroic and soft eyes on eso are not. This isn't a matter of "seeing' things either I have zoomed in extremely closely with my picture editor and counted the differences in pixel lengths. If need be I can try and edit a picture that shows this difference more closely. With the soft eyes you should be able to notice that his right eye is touching the middle edge of his eye, while the other eye is more centered. That is not normal!