How do you feel about Crown Store costs?

smtdbplus

What is the problen with someone paying their money to support the game we are playing???

There are people in ZOS to find out what optimal price levels are, l have no issue with this.

Balticthunder

Alliance motifs, I found them overpriced, same as some other 5000k motifs. The problem for me is that most of those armors not worth such high price. Yeah, at first glance they look cool, but when you look closer you see how half backed and unfinished/unpolished they are. Just take AD armors - most of them are only male versions even for female characters (and I guess most of us play female chars :-)) I think only one (EP heavy) armor from all of the motifs had the feeling that it was made for female, the rest, as I said, is pure male armors. Also just take a look at AD heavy armor shoulder line - it is just straight horizontal line - who on earth have such shoulders! I'm not even talking about floating sholderpads, hipguards and belts many armors have.
So, yeah, they really are asking too much (5000k) for such lazy, inaccurate work. C'mon, none would pay me at my work if I do things that way, sooner I would be fired or just half paid, but never receive thank you for such quality of work!

khele23eb17_ESO

smtdbplus wrote: »

What is the problen with someone paying their money to support the game we are playing???

There are people in ZOS to find out what optimal price levels are, l have no issue with this.

I find it hard to believe 5k is the optimal price for a motif. Whats the rationale there?

Saoirse_Siobhan

notimetocare wrote: »

Stuff should cost more. They need to make money and people don't want to sub.

@notimetocare They would actually get more money out of me if items were cheaper, I would buy everything then! But at the current prices, I have to pick and choose and really be careful with how I spend my crowns.

notimetocare

TheWhiteDarkness wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

Stuff should cost more. They need to make money and people don't want to sub.

@notimetocare They would actually get more money out of me if items were cheaper, I would buy everything then! But at the current prices, I have to pick and choose and really be careful with how I spend my crowns.

I doubt they would get more, you would just get more for what you spend. Most people dont spend more than they alreeady would.

STEVIL

Well, i bought the banker after 1 week of it being available and never regretted it once. Not a day goes by i dont use it a lot.

Some told me i was hurting them by choosing to spend my money there as i see fit.

So i went and bought more, might have been the glowing cat mount which is fine.

Recently bought the little flying nix thingy. Liking it.

I am fine with their pricing. If i think something is worth it for me, i spend, if not i dont but i figure it is worth that for someone else... who pays to Zos etc.

YMMV.

Grao

Zenimax's finance's department is very smart. They wanted the profit of a Buy to Play game and the security of a Pay to Play game, so what did they do? Implemented a system that spits small DLCs every 2-3 months and a ton and a half of mounts and other vanity items. To make the subscription worthwhile, they make so that it gives you free crowns and other advantages, but to make subscribers need to buy even more crowns, they make all the items they don't give subscribers freely several times more expensive. It is brilliant.

Elsonso

E-Zekiel wrote: »

The motifs that are over 1500 are grossly overpriced. 3000, 5000? Jaysus. For the shiny new/particularly awesome ones I could see 2000, but $30 and $50 are a little redonkulous.

First, let me repeat that they can price stuff at whatever they think people will buy it for, and keep it in the store for as long, or as short, as they want.

Motif prices in the Crown Store need to be priced to reflect how easy they are to get in the game. If someone wants to spend $40 to get a motif in the Crown Store because they cannot, or do not want to, get it in the game, that is up to them. At the point where the motif is widely viewed as "cheaper" to purchase in the Crown Store than it is to get in the game, it is priced too low.

As for the Alliance motifs being 5000 Crowns, I think that there are players that would rather spend $40 on a Cyrodiil motif than set foot in Cyrodiil or hunt down the individual pages in guild stores. In this way, they might be selling too cheaply. I dunno.

notimetocare wrote: »

Stuff should cost more. They need to make money and people don't want to sub.

ZOS does not release numbers, but I would have to guess that, at least on PC/Mac North America, around half of the regular players that one comes across are ESO Plus members. Where that percentage drops is in the lower level zones where you encounter more short term "lookie-loo" players.

ItsGlaive

Deathgiggle wrote: »

It depends on your financial situation as to if the prices are fine with you. That will vary greatly from individual to individual. My brother for example spends about $300-400 a month on 2 of the games he plays. I spent about $900 last year on Wizard101 and another Facebook game I play. neither of us thought anything about it and we don't think anything is overpriced. Of course me, my brother and both of our wives are all professionals and so this amount of money is not really a concern.
If gaming is your hobby, then you will ultimately spend money on, like everything else in life. If your a teenager living at home or a college student then I can understand that the crown store would be expensive to you. I grew up gaming with my first system being the Commodore 64, then the Atari and finally I found Zelda on the original Nintendo! Once I found Zelda I was hooked for life. Now at 41 years old I'm still playing games

The total amount you spend and the perceived value of the items are two entirely separate things. I'd be happy laying down £100 on this game here and there, if I felt the items were as valuable as the crown store price strategy seems to think they are.

drakhan2002_ESO

I would LOVE it if they notched the price of things down a bit. I would, for sure, buy the Banker companion if it were half the price it currently is...until it goes on sale, I will keep making a trip back to town to unload my deconstruction items...

...but I also know that players are buying this stuff at the prices they set...otherwise I'm sure we would have seen a modification to those prices already. Speak with your wallets folks!!

Elsonso

Xabien wrote: »

The total amount you spend and the perceived value of the items are two entirely separate things. I'd be happy laying down £100 on this game here and there, if I felt the items were as valuable as the crown store price strategy seems to think they are.

For what I buy for ESO, the perceived value > the amount spent

I think the exception to that would be the ice horse. Buyer's remorse on that one.

Note that I am currently subscribing to ESO Plus, and perceived value is also > amount spent.

Now, I expect changes in One Tamriel, particularly the way they will be normalizing the world and characters, to reduce my "perceived value" considerably, so I will see what happens there after details come out. While I want the world to be one big happy place where all the players can congregate together, I am totally not looking forward to when all the monsters and resource nodes cater to my exact needs. That removes my reason for wandering Tamriel, which is looking for things that are different, or not available elsewhere. This is actually what I like most about the game world, and what is most boring about games like Oblivion.

Giraffon

I just kind of shake my head sometimes when I see the prices. I'm like, "Good luck with that."

dodgehopper_ESO

Roechacca wrote: »

I use crowns for DLC purposes only. I wait for cheaper offers too. I make plenty of cash but can't justify to myself spending a lot of money on novelty items. If they were cheaper I'd pick up a few but the prices listed for some are the same as DLC packs. That's never gonna happen with me. Ya want me to throw an extra five bucks at some digital art, sure. Twenty? Get out of town.

We all have our breaking point. If something offers a lot of value (in this instance I felt Thieves Guild or Orsinium had value) I'd give them the 20 bucks or whatever it is for those DLC's, and I usually get the pack. I like having access to those areas, and so far the Camel, bear, etc offered me something I could use on a character.

The Merchant/Banker on the other hand were examples of really bad pricing in my view. I think the devs saw them as a way to offer a service, but they're also part of your retinue (like a mudcrab or the like... they should offer us horkers) and as retinue I feel like a choice in skins would have been nice. I'd rather have seen them offer the feature (merchant/banker) and then a selection of skins to properly customize your follower. As it stands without choice I'd simply rather not buy something which already has questionable value in my view.

ThyMorningGlory

Way overpriced. Many of us are stay home parents with one income.

BalticBlues

smtdbplus wrote: »

What is the problen with someone paying their money to support the game we are playing???

There is no problem with that.
The problem is that less and less people do because prices are getting ridiculous.

I did purchase certain crown stuff in the past at a fair price.
The assistants were the first offers were I did not believe the price tag.
Since then, prices even got worse. I did not buy a single thing recently.

ZOS management seems to be out of touch with real life, having no idea how customers think. There is a thing called "sweet spot" where product pricing meets customer desires. Sales and revenue are best if sellers and customers meet at the sweet spot. However, in case of the crown store, most people I know do not see any sweet spot anymore, people understand the recent offers as PURE GREED, a greed that is driving customers away from the Crown Store.

Defilted

For me personally they are high, but I am not loaded either.

I am ESO+ I get Crowns each month. I do not buy more than my allotment allows. I save when I really want something. So really it seems that the price may not matter in the long run as long as it i there when I have enough crowns. The really expensive stuff however typically makes me not buy the item/mount/motif becasue it takes so long to save the crowns in the first place.

Korah_Eaglecry

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

smtdbplus wrote: »

What is the problen with someone paying their money to support the game we are playing???

There are people in ZOS to find out what optimal price levels are, l have no issue with this.

I find it hard to believe 5k is the optimal price for a motif. Whats the rationale there?

Well good thing youre not a shareholder and ZOS doesnt have to answer to you. I find it hard believe youd believe it even if they did care to explain it.

BalticBlues

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

Well good thing youre not a shareholder and ZOS doesnt have to answer to you.

Being a shareholder of other (more reasonable) companies, I will try to explain it to you: Shareholders like profits. With almost no people buying certain things because prices are outrageos, profits are lowered. Shareholders do not like that.

Example: Ask the people in your guilds, how many of them did actually by the assistants for 5000 Crowns each. I know dozens of people who were actually interested, but in the end only one addicted guy I know actually paid 10.000 Crowns for both assistants. If only one guy of dozens of people is buying, profits are lowered. Greed LOWERS returns.

svartorn

It blows my mind that motifs are 5000 crowns.

jedtb16_ESO

if you have 'feelings' about the prices in a shop you should probably seek help...

vamp_emily

I'm not sure if I shared this story here before:

A business owner was getting ready to leave for vacation and left a note for her employees that said something like "Please move item <item name> in front of the cash register and mark them down 50%."

When she got back from vacation she noticed all the items were sold, and then made a comment "Those items would never sale, I knew if I marked them down 50% people would buy it." An employee responded "Oops, I must have read the note wrong, I marked them up 50%"

It is weird how people associate the cost and value, just because something costs more they think it is more valuable.

Back on topic, I think items are way too expensive. When I look at these prices I feel ZOS is trying to "Gank" me ( PvP joke )

I dislike when I see people make comments like "the company needs money and we should support it". I think we all support the game when we buy the DLC, there is no reason for them charge expensive prices for most of this stuff.

vamp_emily

BalticBlues wrote: »

If only one guy of dozens of people is buying, profits are lowered.

If only one guy buys out of a dozen, then they should be rethinking their business plan. They might start with "how can we get the other 11 people to buy our product."

Simple solution, lower the prices. There is no extra cost on their side.

Hallothiel

Initially did not even consider the store. Bought the game & the dlcs like I have with single player games. Idea of subscribing anathema to me. My plain brown bought-in-game horse was a source of pride.

But then......I play this damn game virtually every day. Got different pets as a reward. Liked the idea. Then came the glowing blue senche and I was suckered in (justified it by telling myself I've never spent £ in the crown store before & was supporting the game). Then was trying to level up 4 characters due to cake & the amount of inventory management I was wasting my time on as all were crafters was insane. So subscibed. Loved it.

Now? I'm a lost cause. Crowns sale on psn uk has me calculating what I can afford. Do so want the badger. And the baby bear. And the doom wolf mount......

See? Lost cause. But a stupidly happy one just because I have a glowing blue cat....

But only spend what I can afford & omly on items I really like. Don't really care about costumes as like crafting & dyeing my own. Some of the prices do make me wince & they could do with dropping them slightly / having more sales.

MornaBaine

I find most of the prices to be exorbitant. There's no reason a costume should cost a thousand crowns when a pack of three costs 700. The 1000 crown ones just aren't that special. Ditto mounts.

Zevlin

Some things should be earned in game.

When I see really cool mounts and don't think "Wow they must have done some epic quest!" Then I realize you can buy the mounts in the store. Then the mount is less cool because you can just buy them. Then I look at the cost and think ....no it's not worth it.

I did take 900 crowns and bought a plain horse because 10,000 for a horse is expensive below level 10. I saving the other crowns.

Aelthwyn

Do you think these prices are too steep?
Yes. Most things feel like they really aren’t worth the cost, and when I do buy something occasionally I feel slightly resentful rather than truly satisfied.
The DLCs are decently priced, and the 400 crown pets are alright, but I think it’s really low of them to only give you 750 crowns for the $7.99 pack so you can’t get two pets out of it. The fancier mounts like the night mare seem too much to me, especially the recent dro-mathra senche which was just plain ridiculous.
The price for the motifs seems really outrageous to me too, given that it’s consumable and will only be for one character and would be lost if you decided to remake or replace them for any reason. I know it comes with the bonus of no skill point restriction, but the convenience is still not worth that much to me.

What would you expect to receive for 5000 crowns?
Many things.

Maybe 4 special mounts, or several pets and costumes, I don’t know, but when I consider that’s like twice the cost of the base game it seems crazy to pay that much for a single accessory, especially a consumable one-character item.

Should only Motifs be that price?
No single thing should be that price.

Should ZoS refrain from retiring items?
Yes. There have been a few things I would have eventually bought if I still had the chance. It’s not just a matter of not having enough crowns at the time. For example, one might end up creating a character that would have loved to use a pet or costume that used to be available, but which you didn’t buy because you didn’t have a character who would use it at that time. Or for another example, there may be costumes you didn’t buy because you didn’t like the color, but with costume dying coming now you wish you had.

Would you like to see more bundles (Mount and Pet)?
I would love to see mount and pet bundles. I also prefer costume packs to single costumes.

Wolfshead

@Cazzy

Well price i think is not that high on craft book at all but what i think is stupid think ZoS is doing to people like me that pay 6 month sub every 6 month is that i get all my crown right way which i personal think is stupid why not gave 1500 crown each month for 6 month instead of now that i get everything in one big pay out.

khele23eb17_ESO

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

smtdbplus wrote: »

What is the problen with someone paying their money to support the game we are playing???

There are people in ZOS to find out what optimal price levels are, l have no issue with this.

I find it hard to believe 5k is the optimal price for a motif. Whats the rationale there?

Well good thing youre not a shareholder and ZOS doesnt have to answer to you. I find it hard believe youd believe it even if they did care to explain it.

If it was anything like the rationale behind some of the balance changes or the bulls...PR damage control explanations for misshapen female armor meshes, youre probably right. I wouldnt believe it.

snakester320

FREE 2 PLAY!!! got to squeeze real money out of the customer one way or the other ... ENOUGH SAID!