BAD IDEAS

snakester320

So im queueing for the random dungeon finder thingy takes about 3 minutes get a run i hit the go to dungeon bugs out ( AS USUAL ) so it leaves me in the area/world that im in i get booted from group then a 14min penalty time to join again!!!! WHAT BRIGHT SPARK AT ZOS FIGURED THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA?? fair enough giving me a penalty for leaving / bailing on a group but to get a penalty for queueing to soon is just plain stupid!!

imnotanother

I agree. I have had several similar situations occur that left me penalized for no reason.

Hopefully a fix is in the near future or simply removing the whole mechanic.

snakester320

simple and effective way to sort ( HOPE ZOS READS THESE) ppl queue when everyone is in there locked in as such if the group sucks ( MORE OFTEN THAN NOT WITH THERE STUPID TANK CAN PLAY A DPS AND A HEALER CAN DPS IDEA) then a vote abandon button is found in the group menu.. EVERYONE AGREES spat back out to the world!!! IF one person just leaves he cops the penalty for leaving say 10 minutes (I WOULD ARGUE FOR MORE BUT ONCE AGAIN AS ABOVE STUPID SYSTEM IDEA)

Recremen

If I recall it was to provide a disincentive for people dropping queue when they didn't like the party composition, which is something that used to be getting weekly forum complaints.

Tryxus

Recremen wrote: »

If I recall it was to provide a disincentive for people dropping queue when they didn't like the party composition, which is something that used to be getting weekly forum complaints.

Everything is getting weekly forum complaints, even the solutions to those weekly forum complaints

snakester320

but lets be honest ZOS tryed to be different and F.CKED UP they should be set roles healer tank and 2 dps not dps queuing as a tank or healer to get a run or a healer queueing and wanting to be a dps and not healing and a tank doing the same!! .... This idea was always going to cause issues with the group finder .. now penalize ppl for there stupid idea!! WHY?

Oreyn_Bearclaw

This is a problem across the board with ZOS. The number of ways a disconnect can penalize you in this game is absurd.

DC on last round of VMA? Too bad, no score or no death run for you. DC on last boss of Trial? Lets make 11 people wait 10 minutes for you to run back. DC when queuing? 15 minute penalty box.

I get that there are situations where a force quit of your client might be advantageous and exploitable, but they need to address penalties stemming from their game failing.

snakester320

im still lost to why they desided when they come up with this wonderous idea of the classes and dungeons they didnt stop to think HEY LETS KEEP WITH THE TRADITIONAL WAY OF MAKING MMOS!! instead of trying different thngs and causing player revolt and causing themselves a whole *** load of issues!!! Take ffxiv arr simple dungeon system easy smart and uncomplicated AND IT WORKS!! guess the japs have there *** together!! ............Must say one of the most mind blowing ideas they had was the sync up to vet/ champion lvl WTF ZOS umm so a lvl 14 gets ported into a 160 champion/vet run with what maybe 20 -25 at best point to spends on there skills!! ..... IT IS ALMOST LIKE THEY SET THE DUNGEON GROUPS TO FAIL FOR THE FUN OF IT!!

KochDerDamonen

ITT: A guy who cannot accept the fact that not only can the 'tanks' dps, but they're actually extremely proficient at it

Also ITT: someone who calls dragonknights 'tanks', and templars 'healers'

Also also, the level of the scaled dungeons are cp160 but Normal dungeons are still ez pz chicken squeezy

snakester320

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

ITT: A guy who cannot accept the fact that not only can the 'tanks' dps, but they're actually extremely proficient at it

Also ITT: someone who calls dragonknights 'tanks', and templars 'healers'

Also also, the level of the scaled dungeons are cp160 but Normal dungeons are still ez pz chicken squeezy

correct me if im wrong !! A.. i dont care to much if a dk or a damn healer is a better dps than a dps there job is to tank and heal?? .... B.. so when i do a random dungeon finder (well because if you pick your runs its f.cking broken and you end up waiting 5 years) you can pick to go in to a champion 160 before you enter or do you have to change it after you enter??? cause i always get scaled up champion 160 runs !!

Bouldercleave

snakester320 wrote: »

but lets be honest ZOS tryed to be different and F.CKED UP they should be set roles healer tank and 2 dps not dps queuing as a tank or healer to get a run or a healer queueing and wanting to be a dps and not healing and a tank doing the same!! .... This idea was always going to cause issues with the group finder .. now penalize ppl for there stupid idea!! WHY?

So a group should ONLY consist of a tank 2 DPS and a healer? No one is allowed to try a different role from time to time?

If a DPS queues up as a tank it is NOT ZoS' fault.

It's mindsets like yours that make me not want to group with anyone - you make the GAME not fun. This is not a job, it's a game.

Bouldercleave

snakester320 wrote: »

im still lost to why they desided when they come up with this wonderous idea of the classes and dungeons they didnt stop to think HEY LETS KEEP WITH THE TRADITIONAL WAY OF MAKING MMOS!! instead of trying different thngs and causing player revolt and causing themselves a whole *** load of issues!!! Take ffxiv arr simple dungeon system easy smart and uncomplicated AND IT WORKS!! guess the japs have there *** together!! ............Must say one of the most mind blowing ideas they had was the sync up to vet/ champion lvl WTF ZOS umm so a lvl 14 gets ported into a 160 champion/vet run with what maybe 20 -25 at best point to spends on there skills!! ..... IT IS ALMOST LIKE THEY SET THE DUNGEON GROUPS TO FAIL FOR THE FUN OF IT!!

Wow - I would love to group with you just to wipe and listen to you blow a friggin gasket.

Decaf man, Decaf.

KochDerDamonen

snakester320 wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

ITT: A guy who cannot accept the fact that not only can the 'tanks' dps, but they're actually extremely proficient at it

Also ITT: someone who calls dragonknights 'tanks', and templars 'healers'

Also also, the level of the scaled dungeons are cp160 but Normal dungeons are still ez pz chicken squeezy

correct me if im wrong !! A.. i dont care to much if a dk or a damn healer is a better dps than a dps there job is to tank and heal?? .... B.. so when i do a random dungeon finder (well because if you pick your runs its f.cking broken and you end up waiting 5 years) you can pick to go in to a champion 160 before you enter or do you have to change it after you enter??? cause i always get scaled up champion 160 runs !!

In bold, the only thing I read tbh. You are in fact wrong, they're called Templars, and that's not their job as a class

snakester320

Bouldercleave wrote: »

snakester320 wrote: »

but lets be honest ZOS tryed to be different and F.CKED UP they should be set roles healer tank and 2 dps not dps queuing as a tank or healer to get a run or a healer queueing and wanting to be a dps and not healing and a tank doing the same!! .... This idea was always going to cause issues with the group finder .. now penalize ppl for there stupid idea!! WHY?

So a group should ONLY consist of a tank 2 DPS and a healer? No one is allowed to try a different role from time to time?

If a DPS queues up as a tank it is NOT ZoS' fault.

It's mindsets like yours that make me not want to group with anyone - you make the GAME not fun. This is not a job, it's a game.

so its FUN to wipe consantly because tanks cant tank and sorry templar ( healer) cant heal!! ??? is it fun to wait for hours in a queue to wipe for that simple fact? wow you can have 8 different toons on the account how many classes are there 4 from the start seems penbty of room to play ''other classes''... sure your not the type that rage quits when you wipe over and over making no progress?
honestly going to tell me you stay in the group when they aint doing there jobs and just wipe constantly because its fun???...***!!

Bouldercleave

snakester320 wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

snakester320 wrote: »

but lets be honest ZOS tryed to be different and F.CKED UP they should be set roles healer tank and 2 dps not dps queuing as a tank or healer to get a run or a healer queueing and wanting to be a dps and not healing and a tank doing the same!! .... This idea was always going to cause issues with the group finder .. now penalize ppl for there stupid idea!! WHY?

So a group should ONLY consist of a tank 2 DPS and a healer? No one is allowed to try a different role from time to time?

If a DPS queues up as a tank it is NOT ZoS' fault.

It's mindsets like yours that make me not want to group with anyone - you make the GAME not fun. This is not a job, it's a game.

so its FUN to wipe consantly because tanks cant tank and sorry templar ( healer) cant heal!! ??? is it fun to wait for hours in a queue to wipe for that simple fact? wow you can have 8 different toons on the account how many classes are there 4 from the start seems penbty of room to play ''other classes''... sure your not the type that rage quits when you wipe over and over making no progress?
honestly going to tell me you stay in the group when they aint doing there jobs and just wipe constantly because its fun???...***!!

Seriously, you need to take a step back and reassess. If the game causes you this much rage, you need to take a break.

snakester320

Bouldercleave wrote: »

snakester320 wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

snakester320 wrote: »

but lets be honest ZOS tryed to be different and F.CKED UP they should be set roles healer tank and 2 dps not dps queuing as a tank or healer to get a run or a healer queueing and wanting to be a dps and not healing and a tank doing the same!! .... This idea was always going to cause issues with the group finder .. now penalize ppl for there stupid idea!! WHY?

So a group should ONLY consist of a tank 2 DPS and a healer? No one is allowed to try a different role from time to time?

If a DPS queues up as a tank it is NOT ZoS' fault.

It's mindsets like yours that make me not want to group with anyone - you make the GAME not fun. This is not a job, it's a game.

so its FUN to wipe consantly because tanks cant tank and sorry templar ( healer) cant heal!! ??? is it fun to wait for hours in a queue to wipe for that simple fact? wow you can have 8 different toons on the account how many classes are there 4 from the start seems penbty of room to play ''other classes''... sure your not the type that rage quits when you wipe over and over making no progress?
honestly going to tell me you stay in the group when they aint doing there jobs and just wipe constantly because its fun???...***!!

Seriously, you need to take a step back and reassess. If the game causes you this much rage, you need to take a break.

rage is a little harsh of a word .. cant i want to play the game without the hassle of ppl queueing with wrong classes and having the dungeon fail countless times costing me gold time and effort for little return? ..... noticed you avoided the question of do you like your groups to fail constantly?? .............LMFAO.

SanTii.92

Bouldercleave wrote: »

snakester320 wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

snakester320 wrote: »

but lets be honest ZOS tryed to be different and F.CKED UP they should be set roles healer tank and 2 dps not dps queuing as a tank or healer to get a run or a healer queueing and wanting to be a dps and not healing and a tank doing the same!! .... This idea was always going to cause issues with the group finder .. now penalize ppl for there stupid idea!! WHY?

So a group should ONLY consist of a tank 2 DPS and a healer? No one is allowed to try a different role from time to time?

If a DPS queues up as a tank it is NOT ZoS' fault.

It's mindsets like yours that make me not want to group with anyone - you make the GAME not fun. This is not a job, it's a game.

so its FUN to wipe consantly because tanks cant tank and sorry templar ( healer) cant heal!! ??? is it fun to wait for hours in a queue to wipe for that simple fact? wow you can have 8 different toons on the account how many classes are there 4 from the start seems penbty of room to play ''other classes''... sure your not the type that rage quits when you wipe over and over making no progress?
honestly going to tell me you stay in the group when they aint doing there jobs and just wipe constantly because its fun???...***!!

Seriously, you need to take a step back and reassess. If the game causes you this much rage, you need to take a break.

So much this, you are in desperate need of a long break from the game Op.

KochDerDamonen

I like how this rage thread about a legitimate issue with the way the groupfinder works is now about the OP's desperate need to blame his failings on the class and role choice of groupmates in their dungeon runs.

snakester320

was pointing out issues with the games system and i get a bunch white knights defending bad game designs.. be a diff story if turds like you guys had issues!! I will continue to complain about this broke arse silly system till its fixed !!! SO DONT LIKE IT MOVE ALONG!!