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Should "Rant" forum be created?
imnotanother
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Would you like to see a new forum under "General Discussions" be dedicated for Rant threads?
Edited by imnotanother on July 13, 2016 4:21PM
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Should "Rant" forum be created? 47 votes
Yes
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No
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Maybe...depends
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Don't care
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Stupid Poll!
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✭Yes
It would be nice to separate the complaining from the constructive though.Vipstaakki wrote: »Whine does not deserve its own forum.
Then if you wanted to see the complaints, you would know where to look.
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✭✭✭✭NoWhy encourage immaturityTenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I think people wouldn't use it. They would post their rants here and claim it is for "visibility".Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭imnotanother wrote: »
It would be nice to separate the complaining from the constructive though.Vipstaakki wrote: »Whine does not deserve its own forum.
Then if you wanted to see the complaints, you would know where to look.
People would still rant and whine in the non-rant zone and pretend that *their* rant is justified and constructive.
Remember the "Rich Lamnert" thread and how whiners came there to be heard by "the big boss" without any consideration of the nice atmosphere the thread maintained before they invited themselves in it.
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✭Ranting,and letting angry customers vent is the sole reason gamecompanies have a "general discussion" forum at all....thought everyone knew that
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✭YesI think people wouldn't use it. They would post their rants here and claim it is for "visibility".anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »
It would be nice to separate the complaining from the constructive though.Vipstaakki wrote: »Whine does not deserve its own forum.
Then if you wanted to see the complaints, you would know where to look.
People would still rant and whine in the non-rant zone and pretend that *their* rant is justified and constructive.
Remember the "Rich Lamnert" thread and how whiners came there to be heard by "the big boss" without any consideration of the nice atmosphere the thread maintained before they invited themselves in it.Daemons_Bane wrote: »People would still whine in General Discussion
Those threads could be moved to the appropriate section and post could be moderated.
I have posted on a certain forum, that has a rant section, and it works.
The post are usually the same but some are enlightening. It allows for the angry voice to shout, knowing the thread is what it is.PS4: NA - AD PSN: imnotanother (Artell Lyeselle)
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✭NoThe line between Constructive Criticism and Rant is blurry and subjective. I guarantee that 90% of what most of us would consider "rant," the original poster considers "constructive criticism."
It also legitimizes threads that really are just made to vent vitriol instead of doing anything constructive at all. Those definitely don't need encouragement.
Edited by BlackSparrow on July 13, 2016 5:39PMLiving vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
(Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)0 -
NACtron✭✭✭✭✭NoThe Allaince war forum already serves this purpose for PvP'ers. We don't need another onePact Militia GM
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✭✭✭✭✭The problem would come when the moderators move all the rants there and people get mad because they were "giving feedback".@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭✭✭YesYES so we can actually have game discussions here and not open letters to ZOS, complaints about lag and other moaners.
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✭YesYES so we can actually have game discussions here and not open letters to ZOS, complaints about lag and other moaners.
They can have their little area to moan in
Yes! This is what I am thinking would be nice about it.The problem would come when the moderators move all the rants there and people get mad because they were "giving feedback".BlackSparrow wrote: »The line between Constructive Criticism and Rant is blurry and subjective. I guarantee that 90% of what most of us would consider "rant," the original poster considers "constructive criticism."
It also legitimizes threads that really are just made to vent vitriol instead of doing anything constructive at all. Those definitely don't need encouragement.
When their, the authors, threads are consistently moved, they will learn how to turn it into a discussion or stop posting.PS4: NA - AD PSN: imnotanother (Artell Lyeselle)
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✭Noimnotanother wrote: »When their, the authors, threads are consistently moved, they will learn how to turn it into a discussion or stop posting.
I really, really wish that would be the case. But I find it far more likely that the ranters would post more rants in the general forum, this time about ZO$ I$ CEN$ORING ME FOR TELLING THE TRUTH!! The poor moderators would have a full time job just moving these over, and then, when the ranters gave that up, they'd start trashing up the good/constructive threads with posts about how "rosy glasses threads are okay but constructive criticism is not because ZO$ can't handle people talking bad about them!!!"
In short, it would be a mess.
A better solution is to all start posting your own positive threads to help flush all the ranters off the first page.
Living vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
(Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)1 -
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✭✭✭✭NoI feel like every person who ever put up a thread entitled "An Open Letter to ZOS" is probably a self centered, overly entitled c-word who may as well make the title, "Ways to Meeeee by Me, for you to Me".0 -
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✭YesBlackSparrow wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »When their, the authors, threads are consistently moved, they will learn how to turn it into a discussion or stop posting.
I really, really wish that would be the case. But I find it far more likely that the ranters would post more rants in the general forum, this time about ZO$ I$ CEN$ORING ME FOR TELLING THE TRUTH!! The poor moderators would have a full time job just moving these over, and then, when the ranters gave that up, they'd start trashing up the good/constructive threads with posts about how "rosy glasses threads are okay but constructive criticism is not because ZO$ can't handle people talking bad about them!!!"
In short, it would be a mess.
A better solution is to all start posting your own positive threads to help flush all the ranters off the first page.
You are probably correct because humans irrational.
And I agree about "leading by example" philosophy.
Check out my post about needing some new bard songs.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/278917/all-this-sheet-musicPS4: NA - AD PSN: imnotanother (Artell Lyeselle)
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