PS4 NA activity finder -

Massive_Stain

Can we please get a fix today? How about this for starters:

1. Not allowed to que as ALL THREE ROLES
2. No one UNDER LEVEL 45 may enter activity finder
3. You must have received an Undaunted invitation to que activity finder
4. Remove activity finder cooldown timer

imnotanother

No, group finder is a great tool for all levels. Some players have a harder time making friends and joining a guild.

You have to be level 45 to receive the daily pledge.

But the penalty timer must go.

mobicera

Just for my own curiosity why shouldnt a level say 20 be able que for normal fungal grotto?

Massive_Stain

mobicera wrote: »

Just for my own curiosity why shouldnt a level say 20 be able que for normal fungal grotto?

In my experience, I actually ran that exact dungeon with my max level tank, and immediately ran into some big problems with the rest of the group. By the third boss fight, I noticed there where no heals. I checked the group and our "healer" was a triple qued level 19 dragon knight. Thats why.

BackFreckle

My sorc can tank/heal/dps any normal dungeon so I would like to queue as all 3

mobicera

Ah I see the problem then is not the level of the player, but lying to by pass que.
That I will not defend but if you can do this please do, go get 4 friends under level 25 each willing to fufill a role and run any normal dungeon, you will most likely encounter no real issues

Lord_Eomer

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Can we please get a fix today? How about this for starters:

1. Not allowed to que as ALL THREE ROLES
2. No one UNDER LEVEL 45 may enter activity finder
3. You must have received an Undaunted invitation to que activity finder
4. Remove activity finder cooldown timer

1. This is good to have
2. Everyone should be encouraged to use activity finder, No level limit
3. No
4. No, cooldown is important or else everyone trying to get undaunted pledge dungeon as random finder (due to XP and reward) and keep leaving group if not found pledge dungeon. This way queue will be always full and other players suffers..

Tan9oSuccka

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Can we please get a fix today? How about this for starters:

1. Not allowed to que as ALL THREE ROLES
2. No one UNDER LEVEL 45 may enter activity finder
3. You must have received an Undaunted invitation to que activity finder
4. Remove activity finder cooldown timer

1. Yes please.
2. Maybe. Need certain amount of Champion points.
3. Maybe. Again, Champion points help a bit with lowbies.
4. I wouldn't know. The PS4 NA group finder is still broken, even on my Tank and Healer.

MaKTaiL

1- Yes
2- No, I've been able to play just fine with underleveled player. Remember, their CP could be higher than yours.
3- No, for the same reason above.
4- Yes.

GreenhaloX

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Can we please get a fix today? How about this for starters:

1. Not allowed to que as ALL THREE ROLES
2. No one UNDER LEVEL 45 may enter activity finder
3. You must have received an Undaunted invitation to que activity finder
4. Remove activity finder cooldown timer

1. This is good to have
2. Everyone should be encouraged to use activity finder, No level limit
3. No
4. No, cooldown is important or else everyone trying to get undaunted pledge dungeon as random finder (due to XP and reward) and keep leaving group if not found pledge dungeon. This way queue will be always full and other players suffers..

The problem with the cooldown that I've been experiencing is I'm penalized if everybody else left the group and dungeon while it is not completed, and I get kicked out of that dungeon because no one else is left. So, I get the cooldown/timer, whatever it is, penalty as well. Also, if I get a notification that I just got in a group and waiting to travel, and when I do hit the check to travel, but before I can, there is a notification that "the leader has disbanded the group." I get penalized here as well and it says I've been queuing too often, even though that was my first one of the day. Seems like this would need some kind of tweak.

Ep1kMalware

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Can we please get a fix today? How about this for starters:

1. Not allowed to que as ALL THREE ROLES
2. No one UNDER LEVEL 45 may enter activity finder
3. You must have received an Undaunted invitation to que activity finder
4. Remove activity finder cooldown timer

nah dude, activitt finder is a viable way to get skillpoints/exp, no one should be barred from using it. But definitely agree the cooldown should go away, and you should onlt be able to select 1 role at a time.

Ep1kMalware

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Can we please get a fix today? How about this for starters:

1. Not allowed to que as ALL THREE ROLES
2. No one UNDER LEVEL 45 may enter activity finder
3. You must have received an Undaunted invitation to que activity finder
4. Remove activity finder cooldown timer

1. This is good to have
2. Everyone should be encouraged to use activity finder, No level limit
3. No
4. No, cooldown is important or else everyone trying to get undaunted pledge dungeon as random finder (due to XP and reward) and keep leaving group if not found pledge dungeon. This way queue will be always full and other players suffers..

The problem with the cooldown that I've been experiencing is I'm penalized if everybody else left the group and dungeon while it is not completed, and I get kicked out of that dungeon because no one else is left. So, I get the cooldown/timer, whatever it is, penalty as well. Also, if I get a notification that I just got in a group and waiting to travel, and when I do hit the check to travel, but before I can, there is a notification that "the leader has disbanded the group." I get penalized here as well and it says I've been queuing too often, even though that was my first one of the day. Seems like this would need some kind of tweak.

The penalty has made it less likely I stay im group. if so,e randos invite ,e to their group, and want ro run dungeons, sure, why not I'll give it a go for a bit. but if I see we're queing or I hear talk of them changing roles to que I immediatelt leave.

Tbh, I don't want ro be penalized from doing what I want ro if a group doesn't woek out. from what I've seen a huge portion pf the people who are like "oh we can 4dps elden hollow!" usually can't, it's a sloppy mess, and I don't like to be forces to spend 2hrs there or ear a 15 minute ban in addition to the time i've already wasted. niether sounds like a better option for me.

Having a ban from just queing again and trying something else puts more pressure on ke to run with a better group, and I find myself more judgemental if it doesn't seem to work right away, because I want to waste as little as my free time as possible. I don't like this.

A better approach would be to start the timer when the group tool puts you into a rungeon. 15 minutes is a fair ammount of time to figure out if your group can complete the dungeon or if it will be a disaster. 15 minutes seems fair, if it doesn't work, fudge it, tey something else for a bit.

It's alot easier to stick it through for 15 min than being like '***?' and leaving right away knowing that if you spend 30min on first boss tou STILL have a 15 minute wait. The current model of complete or be punished seems to push others toward the wrong direction.

UltimaJoe777

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Can we please get a fix today? How about this for starters:

1. Not allowed to que as ALL THREE ROLES
2. No one UNDER LEVEL 45 may enter activity finder
3. You must have received an Undaunted invitation to que activity finder
4. Remove activity finder cooldown timer

1. Some people actually CAN perform more than 1 role at a time. Can't rob those people of this just because some idiots are abusing it.
2. Absolutely hell no. You can't tell people under 45 to just get lost just because they cannot acquire pledges. Besides, Group Finder runs are battle-leveled.
3. Again, no. This would keep people under 45 from running dungeons and that is unacceptable.
4. This is being strongly discussed across the forums. Honestly, I see no point in the wait time and it's just causing more grief than good so yes removing this would be beneficial.

LUC1D7

Shouldn't punish people who can play all 3 roles. For example my magicka Templar can heal and DPS with similar set up. Can tank with changing gear and using s&b. Most of the time I queue as DPS and healer. Whatever spot AF assigns me is the role I play.

RAGUNAnoOne

1 agree to a point everyone should have one main role but can probably set one side role.
2 hell no L2P L2Teach or don't use dungeon finder
3 this game isn't just for elitists like you, you don't like it find another damn game
4 at least remove it if everyone else leaves but keep it if you are the one to leave

DenMoria

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Can we please get a fix today? How about this for starters:

1. Not allowed to que as ALL THREE ROLES
2. No one UNDER LEVEL 45 may enter activity finder
3. You must have received an Undaunted invitation to que activity finder
4. Remove activity finder cooldown timer

1) Fine. That makes sense.
2) Excuse me? So you're being an elitest, eh? How are new folks supposed to do activities if they aren't allowed to do anything under level 45. What, not good enough for you? Obviously not.
3) So, if you don't join the "Undaunted" you can't use the activity finder. You do realize that not everybody does.
4) Why? So you can spam it over and over and over again, just 'cause you can?

This is definitely a questionable posting.

YeOldeGamer

Wow, so many white knights here. Allow me to play devils advocate.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
Elitists are people too. It isn't my job to teach your sorry arse how to play the game. I don't want to spend an hour going over basic mechanics or discussing builds. I JUST WANT TO RUN THE DUNGEON! Learn to play and THEN use the grouping tool. Not the other way around. There should be an option to set desired group level.

UltimaJoe777

YeOldeGamer wrote: »

Wow, so many white knights here. Allow me to play devils advocate.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
Elitists are people too. It isn't my job to teach your sorry arse how to play the game. I don't want to spend an hour going over basic mechanics or discussing builds. I JUST WANT TO RUN THE DUNGEON! Learn to play and THEN use the grouping tool. Not the other way around. There should be an option to set desired group level.

You also have no right to deny lower levels their time in dungeons, I don't care who you are. That is why 2 and 3 will never happen.

disintegr8

I would just like the group finder to be working before I worry about who can use it. It certainly is not working at the moment on PS4 NA.

Once it is working they could look at some changes regarding the undaunted dailies:
- Have an undaunted only queue where you queue only for that days normal daily and get no random bonus rewards (maybe you also have to have the pledge to queue for this one).
- Maybe the normal daily undaunted dungeon gets separated from the normal random for that 24 hours so you must specify that dungeon to get into it. We are only talking about 1 dungeon per day here for non vets.

The main issue here is that people who might only want to run dungeons for the dailies - as I have found in other discussions - sometimes want quick runs without wanting to take less experienced players through the dungeon.

My views are clear on this and I will not say any more than if you don't want to run with the general public, form your own group or join a guild and stay away from group finder. Therefore I definitely do not agree with suggestions 2 and 3.

Ep1kMalware

YeOldeGamer wrote: »

Wow, so many white knights here. Allow me to play devils advocate.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
Elitists are people too. It isn't my job to teach your sorry arse how to play the game. I don't want to spend an hour going over basic mechanics or discussing builds. I JUST WANT TO RUN THE DUNGEON! Learn to play and THEN use the grouping tool. Not the other way around. There should be an option to set desired group level.

haha I do agree, but we limit ourselves in the process too. farming dungeons for skillpoim=nts and some extra xp sure helps.esp with the crap to imperial city now, I can only grind maelstrom for so long until I'm bored of leveling there and need to look at something else for a bit >.<

psxfloh

A big "LOL" to all the elitist jerks.. if you're really oh so very elite you should have no problem at all pulling a group of 3 low level characters through a normal dungeon.
Well yes, it might take a few more minutes, but you can bathe in the awe of the little ones !

Ep1kMalware

psxfloh wrote: »

A big "LOL" to all the elitist jerks.. if you're really oh so very elite you should have no problem at all pulling a group of 3 low level characters through a normal dungeon.
Well yes, it might take a few more minutes, but you can bathe in the awe of the little ones !

but elites are people too -.- with real life responsibilities/jobs/etc. sometimes, we reallt don't mind spending a while helping people out, other times we just fot a few minutes before bed to do SOMETHING.

psxfloh

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

but elites are people too -.- with real life responsibilities/jobs/etc. sometimes, we reallt don't mind spending a while helping people out, other times we just fot a few minutes before bed to do SOMETHING.

yeah, that can be annoying.. having only less than half an hour, taking a chance on the activity finder only to be put in a group that won't be able to complete the dungeon in time.

but.. is this really the other players' fault? Should countless people be punished or excluded from the activity finder, only to prevent the rare scneario where a self-proclaimed "better" player can't finish his goodnight dungeon?

Lord_Eomer

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Can we please get a fix today? How about this for starters:

1. Not allowed to que as ALL THREE ROLES
2. No one UNDER LEVEL 45 may enter activity finder
3. You must have received an Undaunted invitation to que activity finder
4. Remove activity finder cooldown timer

1. This is good to have
2. Everyone should be encouraged to use activity finder, No level limit
3. No
4. No, cooldown is important or else everyone trying to get undaunted pledge dungeon as random finder (due to XP and reward) and keep leaving group if not found pledge dungeon. This way queue will be always full and other players suffers..

The problem with the cooldown that I've been experiencing is I'm penalized if everybody else left the group and dungeon while it is not completed, and I get kicked out of that dungeon because no one else is left. So, I get the cooldown/timer, whatever it is, penalty as well. Also, if I get a notification that I just got in a group and waiting to travel, and when I do hit the check to travel, but before I can, there is a notification that "the leader has disbanded the group." I get penalized here as well and it says I've been queuing too often, even though that was my first one of the day. Seems like this would need some kind of tweak.

Before cooldown, I saw many leaving group instantly if they have not gotten Undaunted dungeon as random. Almost every1 do due to random XP and reward and undaunted XP in a single run.

After cooldown it forced to do dungeon instead of spam it. This gives everyone a fair chance to get dungeon while queued.

May be reducing time to 10 minutes work best for all.

Ep1kMalware

psxfloh wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

but elites are people too -.- with real life responsibilities/jobs/etc. sometimes, we reallt don't mind spending a while helping people out, other times we just fot a few minutes before bed to do SOMETHING.

yeah, that can be annoying.. having only less than half an hour, taking a chance on the activity finder only to be put in a group that won't be able to complete the dungeon in time.

but.. is this really the other players' fault? Should countless people be punished or excluded from the activity finder, only to prevent the rare scneario where a self-proclaimed "better" player can't finish his goodnight dungeon?

generally it's not anyone's fualt, eso has a diverse community. I think the extremety is often exaggerated by the group finder barely functioning. But there are those absolute wow moments when kicking or leaving is absolutely justified. Being unable to leave a dungeons means someone is more likely to get kicked.

normally, if things are going bad I just leave, working groupfinder pulls a replacement in .002 seconds, I find a different dungeon to run, they get someone on less of a ti,e budget that can be more [patient (or someone else that refuses to play silly games), and everybody wins.

there's also the possibility where 1 person leaves and the group cannot complete the dungeon because 3 other people are getting carried, nobody should be penalized if they sudden;y don't want that burden.

at the moment however, the groupfinder freakim sucks atm, and getting stuck with a 15 minutr ban both contribute to the ,mentality you enter a group with.

I still think the timer should start when grouo is formed. worst case scenario you struggle and facepalm for 15 minutes, then you can drop group amd do something else with someone else. does that seem unfair for anyone?

Damican1982

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Can we please get a fix today? How about this for starters:

1. Not allowed to que as ALL THREE ROLES
2. No one UNDER LEVEL 45 may enter activity finder
3. You must have received an Undaunted invitation to que activity finder
4. Remove activity finder cooldown timer

1) This is an issue with being able to select a role. Most other MMO's don't have this, and it works fine. Players select a role they're not equipped to play as to find a group faster. Last night, I que up as DPS.....average wait time was over 1 hour. 45 minutes later and still no group. Leave and que up as healer.....group found in less than 2 minutes.

2) No, just not

3) Again, no. As other said, not everyone joins the Undaunted right of the bat. Some don't do it at all.

4 ) This needs to be tweaked some. The timer should only kick in if you leave the group on your own.