What pvp has become.

leepalmer95

https://youtu.be/8xendBXWr_w

1. Full hp beamers
2. Max hp sun shield spammers
3. Malubeth Users
4. Mass zerging.

Hashtag_

But you can counter radiant. /sarcasm

Vangy

but...but...

L2bash bro. All u have to do is gap close and bash those 5 templars J-beaming u from full hp!

leepalmer95

Vangy wrote: »

but...but...

L2bash bro. All u have to do is gap close and bash those 5 templars J-beaming u from full hp!

You know i was actually interrupting them via inhale, it achieved nothing, them simply broke free and spammed it again, one even figured hey i this skill has 40m range i can just move back and spam in safety which he did.

visionality

Not sure what you're complaining about. It's ok if 4 DC jump on 1 AD, but it's not okay if 10 more ADs come by and raze the 4 DCs?

I'm in IC a lot and mostly on my own or with just one other friend, and there is one big lesson to learn: avoid groups with more than 5 ppl cause normally they will be doing all the noob PVP you recorded without any reluctance. It's their only chance to score a point, after all.

And honestly: you shouldn't survive that fight, even with the mindless jesus-beamers. Use your environment, try to interrupt and split your enemies. I doubt you could have gotten away, but playing sitting duck in their middle holding up a shield is not a very good idea.

Outer_Rim

lol that death seems all your fault, you didn't even try to line of sight, just stood there casting inhale, maybe you should be aware of what's around instead of faulting how others play.

leepalmer95

visionality wrote: »

Not sure what you're complaining about. It's ok if 4 DC jump on 1 AD, but it's not okay if 10 more ADs come by and raze the 4 DCs?

I'm in IC a lot and mostly on my own or with just one other friend, and there is one big lesson to learn: avoid groups with more than 5 ppl cause normally they will be doing all the noob PVP you recorded without any reluctance. It's their only chance to score a point, after all.

And honestly: you shouldn't survive that fight, even with the mindless jesus-beamers. Use your environment, try to interrupt and split your enemies. I doubt you could have gotten away, but playing sitting duck in their middle holding up a shield is not a very good idea.

That 1 AD? He tried to gank me? Oh and he was using malubeth and he wasn't alone as he was part of the pug group with two of his friends coming around just as he died.

I know i shouldn't survive but this clip is everything wrong with pvp, an over performing skill that is being spammed by bad players but it's easy mode. They don't want to make themselves better pvpers because they don't have too they'll just spam the overperforming 'execute' until their target dies.

I mean look near the end, i'm the only one left and one of them pop's the templar healing ult... despite the fact i was literally spamming inhale because just interrupting the beamers actually did nothing because they'd just recast..

Honestly i knew we was all dead the minute they opened with 3x beams and a healing ult. There is so much dmg you can't avoid and so much healing in that group that while aoe caps are a thing there is literally no way to take them out.

leepalmer95

Outer_Rim wrote: »

lol that death seems all your fault, you didn't even try to line of sight, just stood there casting inhale, maybe you should be aware of what's around instead of faulting how others play.

Don't even try and defend it, you really think i'm going to get away from a group like that using what? Mist form?

Nah.

It's so funny people still defend this skill.

Master_Kas

Lol that sound of multiple beams. I hear that in my nightmares

Wollust

If an execute is being used this way it should be clear that something is wrong with the way it works.

Sotha_Sil

This is just another nerf RD thread.

visionality

leepalmer95 wrote: »

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visionality wrote: »

Not sure what you're complaining about. It's ok if 4 DC jump on 1 AD, but it's not okay if 10 more ADs come by and raze the 4 DCs?

I'm in IC a lot and mostly on my own or with just one other friend, and there is one big lesson to learn: avoid groups with more than 5 ppl cause normally they will be doing all the noob PVP you recorded without any reluctance. It's their only chance to score a point, after all.

And honestly: you shouldn't survive that fight, even with the mindless jesus-beamers. Use your environment, try to interrupt and split your enemies. I doubt you could have gotten away, but playing sitting duck in their middle holding up a shield is not a very good idea.

That 1 AD? He tried to gank me? Oh and he was using malubeth and he wasn't alone as he was part of the pug group with two of his friends coming around just as he died.

I know i shouldn't survive but this clip is everything wrong with pvp, an over performing skill that is being spammed by bad players but it's easy mode. They don't want to make themselves better pvpers because they don't have too they'll just spam the overperforming 'execute' until their target dies.

I mean look near the end, i'm the only one left and one of them pop's the templar healing ult... despite the fact i was literally spamming inhale because just interrupting the beamers actually did nothing because they'd just recast..

Honestly i knew we was all dead the minute they opened with 3x beams and a healing ult. There is so much dmg you can't avoid and so much healing in that group that while aoe caps are a thing there is literally no way to take them out.

I understand your unhappiness but well - that's the way it is. Bad players form nasty clumps because solo they couldn't even reach a vault in IC. Don't expect honour from them, they are just too happy to find something they can kill in a horde. But that's nothing new in my experience. 1 year ago ppl in a zerg for 24 also jubileed if they could race down 2 random enemies...

(BTW: I would love to have a set or ability that can reflect those beams! Wouldn't that be a surprise for all the beamers?!?)

Ryuho

Malubeth is similar to old Whitestrake's which got nerfed to ashes.. Probably many of u remember how Whitestrake's made us mad.. U got som1 to 30% hp and boooom 10k shield appeard, now we have exactly similar thing with Malubeth, u bring som1 to 30% hp, u want to start finishing him and booom Malu proc and he is full hp in 2 seconds.. Imo it's even more broken than old Whitestrake's cause it stacks with all healing buffs, casue som1 was genius at @ZOS hause and brought us CP system..

OP had nice 1 vs 1 fight, but unfortunately he faced Malubeth exploiter, he brought him to 15% and boooooooooom it proced, full hp in seconds.. So stop crying that his friends came and killed 1 single AD, evry1 abusing this *** must die..

I saw yesterday templar with Malubeth and Reactive armor, that's broken combo af.. I am skiping all Malubeth users, it's waste of time to fight them, unfair advantage they have and i refuse to use fasalla, durok to counter them..

leepalmer95

Ryuho wrote: »

Malubeth is similar to old Whitestrake's which got nerfed to ashes.. Probably many of u remember how Whitestrake's made us mad.. U got som1 to 30% hp and boooom 10k shield appeard, now we have exactly similar thing with Malubeth, u bring som1 to 30% hp, u want to start finishing him and booom Malu proc and he is full hp in 2 seconds.. Imo it's even more broken than old Whitestrake's cause it stacks with all healing buffs, casue som1 was genius at @ZOS hause and brought us CP system..

OP had nice 1 vs 1 fight, but unfortunately he faced Malubeth exploiter, he brought him to 15% and boooooooooom it proced, full hp in seconds.. So stop crying that his friends came and killed 1 single AD, evry1 abusing this *** must die..

I saw yesterday templar with Malubeth and Reactive armor, that's broken combo af.. I am skiping all Malubeth users, it's waste of time to fight them, unfair advantage they have and i refuse to use fasalla, durok to counter them..

Should of heard the party chat, i was so casual like oh i'm being ganked he hit me for like 4k out of stealth, i'll be able to kill this guy easy enough.

Friends were like you sure?

2s later , oh wait nevermind he's one of these malubeth idiots come kill him.

Ryuho

No mercy for Malubeth users, I don't care he was killed by two players, zerg or whatever, the point is DK in this video couldn't kill him cause Malubeth saved his ass.. And without Malubeth he would die esy.. Nothing should work like that.. It's like old whitestrake's seriously.. Revamp this set asap..

Sanct16

If you want to win a 4v10 the 4 need to be better players and more organised. Just because you play with 4 ppl doesnt mean you're a better player than any of the people in the other group. It doesnt mean you should have an easy win but the mean aoe caps make it impossible. Heck, you didnt even do any real aoe damage.

Your group didnt do anything right in that fight imo so complaining about not winning is just ridiculous.
You should have went around the corner to get los and maybe go inside some house and ultidump on the entrance or try to kite them and quickly take down guys that overextend. Just standing there feeling sorry for useful because you gonna die is just bad.

leepalmer95

Sanct16 wrote: »

If you want to win a 4v10 the 4 need to be better players and more organised. Just because you play with 4 ppl doesnt mean you're a better player than any of the people in the other group. It doesnt mean you should have an easy win but the mean aoe caps make it impossible. Heck, you didnt even do any real aoe damage.

Your group didnt do anything right in that fight imo so complaining about not winning is just ridiculous.
You should have went around the corner to get los and maybe go inside some house and ultidump on the entrance or try to kite them and quickly take down guys that overextend. Just standing there feeling sorry for useful because you gonna die is just bad.

I'm not complaining about losing the fight, it's the fact the first instinct of that entire group was to full hp beam...

Also of course i didn't do any aoe damage, the entire 15 man group was full of templars, in the entire 20~ fight there was like 4 templar ult's, 1 of which when it was just beam, there was many spamming BoL so any dmg i did do was instantly negated.

Again i wasn't escaping anywhere from that group, my 30% speed mist form wasn't going to do anything beam just melts you through it.

caeliusstarbreaker

@Zheg !!! Your response is needed here.

FENGRUSH

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

@Zheg !!! Your response is needed here.

That's the last thing needed here

Lucky28

Radiant is completely balanced.

Zheg

FENGRUSH wrote: »

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caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

@Zheg !!! Your response is needed here.

That's the last thing needed here

Fengrush's contribution to the list:

People use heals

Rohamad_Ali

You forgot

Bombard Spam

MightyBantam34

Here is a thought have all executes work same as rd then there would be no need for any other abilities , balancing sorted

K4RMA

gg

Takes-No-Prisoner

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

You forgot

Bombard Spam

That meta doesn't exist on PS4-- least not on PS4 NA.

Rohamad_Ali

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

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Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

You forgot

Bombard Spam

That meta doesn't exist on PS4-- least not on PS4 NA.

Are you sure ? I play on Ps4 .

AlexHo1982

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

Here is a thought have all executes work same as rd then there would be no need for any other abilities , balancing sorted

Yes, and just remove mDKs in this scenario as well. They would be completely redundant not having any execute and people would have to feel bad for their ignored complaints...

NeillMcAttack

I'm not gonna lie, these groups absolutely stacked with Templars are getting ridiculous.

You know there is a problem when yellows have all rolled temps!

thankyourat

leepalmer95 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/8xendBXWr_w

1. Full hp beamers
2. Max hp sun shield spammers
3. Malubeth Users
4. Mass zerging.

Lol you forgot the snipe at the end.

leepalmer95

thankyourat wrote: »

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leepalmer95 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/8xendBXWr_w

1. Full hp beamers
2. Max hp sun shield spammers
3. Malubeth Users
4. Mass zerging.

Lol you forgot the snipe at the end.

After running into that group snipe is by far at the end of the problems.

Lieblingsjunge

Master_Kas wrote: »

Lol that sound of multiple beams. I hear that in my nightmares

Kass, pls. You love dem beams!

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As a Templar small/med-scale OTP I cherish my beam! Killing perma dodge rolling Nightblades on 20% HP with one tick of Beam Let's me help the small group secure kills when fighting zergs.

But yes. 100% HP beam should be toned down. Let the beam on lower HP be as it is - but make it hit less when above 30% AT LEAST. don't need to take away the damage completly, though. I'm running 5 heavy, 2,5k buffed spell damage: My Beam can hit a light armour-user at 100% for 5-6k per tick