PS4 Performance Video

Vaoh · July 2016

This video is intended for ZOS to get an idea of what people have been causing an uproar over on the forums and especially in-game lately. We are told videos are the most helpful since this issue is apparently difficult to detect so here it is!

Within the video, I recorded a few instances worth looking into. It was all recorded over three or four separate days where I felt it would be worth saving clips to make a video one day. None of these situations are odd, and represent much of the "typical" gameplay in ESO atm performance-wise.

Stutters, health desyncs, FPS drops, load screens, and other performance issues make up the bulk of this video. My internet is absolutely flawless, and I triple checked my router to eliminate that avenue of escape to take the blame off ESO. I speed up long load screens and long parts of clips. Enjoy, and please fix! (boring video ahead)

P.S. A big part I missed was to include how group dungeons no longer function correctly anymore, in that there are mid-dungeon loading screens which often are permanent, enemies refusing to appear on screen, and other general performance-related issues.

https://youtu.be/_nBuKJpzQgA
NOTE: In the first and second clip, neither of the players were exploiting anything. They simply spammed one skill, yet the result was as shown on my screen (instantly killed from health desync)!

Video Clip Guide

00:00 - 00:54 Snipe Health Desync

00:55 - 01:11 Funnel Health Desync

01:12 - 02:11 vMA Crematorial Guard Health Desync (Magicka NB went from V2 to CP501. First vMA attempt and this happens -_-)

02:12 - 03:47 Stutter Performance Issue in vMA (Magicka NB went from V2 to CP501. First vMA attempt and this happens -_-)

03:48 - 04:58 Wayrest Performance: Low FPS, Cut Audio, Invisible NPCs and Guards, Player Silhouettes, Difficulties w/ World Map

04:59 - 06:53 Wayrest Performance: Low FPS, Load Screens, NPCs not spawning, Player Silhouettes, unloaded textures

06:54 - 08:20 Greenshade Performance: Multiple Load Screens, Very Little distance traveled per load screen, stuff popping in out of nowhere, etc

08:21 - 09:29 Bangkorai Performance: Same as Greenshade since the issue is universal across possibly all zones, heavily underpopulated zone yet still have load screens and character movement speed does not change this

09:30 - 09:51 Thieves Guild patch IC Arena: Back when the performance issue was still a baby

Invisible meteors that are still present in the Arena!

SublimeSparo · July 2016

Looks like a typical day of ESO on PS4 to me.
Is it not supposed to be like this? /s

Vaoh · July 2016

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Looks like a typical day of ESO on PS4 to me.
Is it not supposed to be like this? /s

Believe it or not, were supposed to be getting 30FPS

SublimeSparo · July 2016

Is that frames or *** per second? Either way i get about 5-10 not quite 30

Vaoh · July 2016

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Is that frames or f*ckups per second? Either way i get about 5-10 not quite 30

LOL! When you put it that way were getting a solid 60FPS

SublimeSparo · July 2016

I'll make a video next time we do sanctum ophidia, the fps, audio distortion/ loss, lag etc is quite frankly disgusting

Vaoh · July 2016

Post it on this thread or make your own. I'd rather you post it here and I'll add it to my post. Maybe if we put it up for everyone to see it'll get noticed by the Devs.

Feedback without video footage seems useless at this point. Idk what else to do.

SublimeSparo · July 2016

If i get the chance i'll go through all my saved videos and make a compilation of maelstrom and cyrodill ridiculousness. Got a quality snipe desync saved somewhere

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

I don't ever have it that bad, not even close... If anything I get a slight desync when my health bar is low and the final hit is taken. Do you play on EU server or NA?

Vaoh · July 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

I don't ever have it that bad, not even close... If anything I get a slight desync when my health bar is low and the final hit is taken. Do you play on EU server or NA?

NA

Attempt vMA after running through a daily Vet Dungeon (with those notorious mid-dungeon loadscreens). This'll happen most of the time.

Besides the vMA clips, everything else tends to happen 99% of the time.

josefcifkaeb17_ESO · July 2016

I'm glad I'm a PC player... That's just crazy O_o I wouldn't play the game had the PC version similar issues.

bebynnag · July 2016

WOW! JUST WOW!

impressive bounty btw!

Vaoh · July 2016

puffytheslayer wrote: »

WOW! JUST WOW!

impressive bounty btw!

Oh that? That's nothing.

It has been slowly dropping from 2,000,000+ gold since November last year

The Uninvited · July 2016

Same is happening on PC too, unfortunately. Since last week, before that it was never that bad.

Peekachu99 · July 2016

Looks about right. Shameful. They shouldn't be able to release something like this--it's clearly unfinished.

Oh and vet Crypt of Hearts is an absolute atrocity.

Ch4mpTW · July 2016

Wow... Well damn. Lmao. Definitely spot on, and on the money though. It's sad and really a shame that we are in the middle of 2016, and this type of stuff is occurring. I just hope ZOS gets their act together, and bosses up to the challenge(s) before them. And not letting things like this continue to drag on.

Panth141 · July 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Pandorii · July 2016

@Doncellius

Thank you so much for the video! It's so much more powerful than words. I think it's important not only for the devs to see that we're not making empty demands, but for the community also realize that there's something seriously wrong with the game. Bring back the ESO that I fell in love with ZOS. T.T

Molag_Crow · July 2016

This is exactly what it's like on PS4, EU too, but not as bad in vMSA with the random deaths out of nowhere, though that has happened at certain times for sure.

The way everything's so slow at loading/players' textures, even after a 30-50 secs, is the usual for us now too. All of my friends describe the same problems.

PvP with snipe causing instant death is a complete joke, although I haven't seen much of that myself lately. Bank NPCs and other textures/areas taking TOO long to load. Loading screen here, loading screen there.

I made a topic about Wrothgar's lag, but to be honest, it's EVERYWHERE, as shown in your video, it's like that for me EVERYWHERE also. Shadowfen, Stonefalls, Deshaan, Eastmarch, Auridon etc etc etc etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLl-jT6oq_w

And even plenty of videos about how Destruction Staffs (inferno mainly) and their abilities can cause major FPS stuttering at times until one restarts the game, then it can come back within 10 mins if you're unlucky. This has been going on for months if not a year by now though, so it's nothing new like all of this epic lag we're seeing in your video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHU2bvXJSMk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FibSiKWBRsI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFW-YYYQ7UA

Vaoh · July 2016

@ZOS_MattFiror

Does what you see in the video bother you at all? I'm positive you do care, but the signs of Console ESO turning into what it currently looks like were presented last patch (TG).

Dark Brotherhood did not improve performance, instead serving to make it worse alongside new animation changes which do not fully play with or without lag.

Does this bother any of the Devs? As a full-fledged TES fan and long time ESO player I feel as if these performance issues are being brushed aside as a minor inconvenience. Those "minor" performance issues aren't the type of things that makes new players love the game. It is what makes new players return the game asap to refund their money because the game won't even work, and they'd be correct because nothing functions as it should right now.

Please, load up the game on console and tell me the performance is as good as you envisioned, because I guarantee you it isn't.

Molag_Crow · July 2016

Let's just hope that the issues are acknowledged, investigated and sorted out eventually. That's all we can do now, as well as providing information and video clips of the problems etc.

terrordactyl1971 · July 2016

Good post op

Volrion · July 2016

Good post man.

I have three videos that I'll add to this thread when I get home to my desktop.

Pre IC this game was great for me on NA (I play from Japan; Open ports, static ip etc, 100 down internet connection) Nothing has changed on my set-up, since IC but the game has become unplayable more often than not.

Clarkieson · July 2016

Doncellius wrote: »

This video is intended for ZOS to get an idea of what people have been causing an uproar over on the forums and especially in-game lately. We are told videos are the most helpful since this issue is apparently difficult to detect so here it is!

Within the video, I recorded a few instances worth looking into. It was all recorded over three or four separate days where I felt it would be worth saving clips to make a video one day. None of these situations are odd, and represent much of the "typical" gameplay in ESO atm performance-wise.

Stutters, health desyncs, FPS drops, load screens, and other performance issues make up the bulk of this video. My internet is absolutely flawless, and I triple checked my router to eliminate that avenue of escape to take the blame off ESO. I speed up long load screens and long parts of clips. Enjoy, and please fix! (boring video ahead)

P.S. A big part I missed was to include how group dungeons no longer function correctly anymore, in that there are mid-dungeon loading screens which often are permanent, enemies refusing to appear on screen, and other general performance-related issues.

https://youtu.be/_nBuKJpzQgA
NOTE: In the first and second clip, neither of the players were exploiting anything. They simply spammed one skill, yet the result was as shown on my screen (instantly killed from health desync)!

Video Clip Guide
00:00 - 00:54 Snipe Health Desync

00:55 - 01:11 Funnel Health Desync

01:12 - 02:11 vMA Crematorial Guard Health Desync (Magicka NB went from V2 to CP501. First vMA attempt and this happens -_-)

02:12 - 03:47 Stutter Performance Issue in vMA (Magicka NB went from V2 to CP501. First vMA attempt and this happens -_-)

03:48 - 04:58 Wayrest Performance: Low FPS, Cut Audio, Invisible NPCs and Guards, Player Silhouettes, Difficulties w/ World Map

04:59 - 06:53 Wayrest Performance: Low FPS, Load Screens, NPCs not spawning, Player Silhouettes, unloaded textures

06:54 - 08:20 Greenshade Performance: Multiple Load Screens, Very Little distance traveled per load screen, stuff popping in out of nowhere, etc

08:21 - 09:29 Bangkorai Performance: Same as Greenshade since the issue is universal across possibly all zones, heavily underpopulated zone yet still have load screens and character movement speed does not change this

09:30 - 09:51 Thieves Guild patch IC Arena: Back when the performance issue was still a baby Invisible meteors that are still present in the Arena!

Nice vid

Got to love those lag spikes lol

i do wonder what causes them tho. it does seen that certain players in cyrodiil can time there lag spikes just as they spam an ability. is it just luck with timing?

its way too much of a coincidence that a huge lag spike can result in being hit with 5 snipes and then take damage while you are dead on the floor

i have been “de-synced” by certain players right when you are on execute health more often that just “luck”

i do not play on wireless internet, i do have fibre optic internet and my router is specifically set up for ps4 gaming.

cyrodiil is a laggy mess. i have heard that the lag is to do with certain countries firewalls, surveillance and or ancient telephone infrastructure. true or not, the game does seem to struggle when people connect to the server from far away places, and places where “freedom” is at a premium.

and yes i do believe people lagswitch on ps4, i have heard stories on who does it and a quick google search will show you how to tape a simple switch to the back of the ps4 controller for you to tap at your pleasure. it happens and i believe people do it.

but all that seems to be irrelevant in PVE, i have seen the dungeon, trial and maelstrom glitches for myself and im sure you can rule out lagswitching from boss monsters.

Valkyn skoria can kill you with his heavy attack before the animation, does that make valkyn skoria a lagswitcher? no it doesn't.

PVE is now a laggy mess too but this has only happened recently. Imperial city dlc was the las time i remember PVE working well and it has got steadily worse since that dlc.

Frame rates always were a lottery. it seems RNG has part to play. 60fps? more like a number between 5fps and 60fps and you can adjust play style to compensate. just do your skill rotation and hope for the best.

something is badly wrong with the way this game interacts with the internet, or the internet itself is to blame. People playing on wifi or mobile phone internet creates longer signal paths and increases ping speeds.

HD video streaming does destroy bandwidths. Netflix, youtube etc in every house in the UK might not be helping the situation but nothing can be done about it.

I feel that all the above issues are here to stay and we all might as well get used to it. Such a shame as this game is wonderful really.

Clarkieson · July 2016

Doncellius wrote: »

@ZOS_MattFiror

Does what you see in the video bother you at all? I'm positive you do care, but the signs of Console ESO turning into what it currently looks like were presented last patch (TG).

Dark Brotherhood did not improve performance, instead serving to make it worse alongside new animation changes which do not fully play with or without lag.

Does this bother any of the Devs? As a full-fledged TES fan and long time ESO player I feel as if these performance issues are being brushed aside as a minor inconvenience. Those "minor" performance issues aren't the type of things that makes new players love the game. It is what makes new players return the game asap to refund their money because the game won't even work, and they'd be correct because nothing functions as it should right now.

Please, load up the game on console and tell me the performance is as good as you envisioned, because I guarantee you it isn't.

a developer loads eso on the office ps4

“unable to connect to server please ensure you have a valid internet connection”

works as intended then

The_Lex · July 2016

Doncellius wrote: »

This video is intended for ZOS to get an idea of what people have been causing an uproar over on the forums and especially in-game lately. We are told videos are the most helpful since this issue is apparently difficult to detect so here it is!

Within the video, I recorded a few instances worth looking into. It was all recorded over three or four separate days where I felt it would be worth saving clips to make a video one day. None of these situations are odd, and represent much of the "typical" gameplay in ESO atm performance-wise.

Stutters, health desyncs, FPS drops, load screens, and other performance issues make up the bulk of this video. My internet is absolutely flawless, and I triple checked my router to eliminate that avenue of escape to take the blame off ESO. I speed up long load screens and long parts of clips. Enjoy, and please fix! (boring video ahead)

P.S. A big part I missed was to include how group dungeons no longer function correctly anymore, in that there are mid-dungeon loading screens which often are permanent, enemies refusing to appear on screen, and other general performance-related issues.

https://youtu.be/_nBuKJpzQgA
NOTE: In the first and second clip, neither of the players were exploiting anything. They simply spammed one skill, yet the result was as shown on my screen (instantly killed from health desync)!

Video Clip Guide
00:00 - 00:54 Snipe Health Desync

00:55 - 01:11 Funnel Health Desync

01:12 - 02:11 vMA Crematorial Guard Health Desync (Magicka NB went from V2 to CP501. First vMA attempt and this happens -_-)

02:12 - 03:47 Stutter Performance Issue in vMA (Magicka NB went from V2 to CP501. First vMA attempt and this happens -_-)

03:48 - 04:58 Wayrest Performance: Low FPS, Cut Audio, Invisible NPCs and Guards, Player Silhouettes, Difficulties w/ World Map

04:59 - 06:53 Wayrest Performance: Low FPS, Load Screens, NPCs not spawning, Player Silhouettes, unloaded textures

06:54 - 08:20 Greenshade Performance: Multiple Load Screens, Very Little distance traveled per load screen, stuff popping in out of nowhere, etc

08:21 - 09:29 Bangkorai Performance: Same as Greenshade since the issue is universal across possibly all zones, heavily underpopulated zone yet still have load screens and character movement speed does not change this

09:30 - 09:51 Thieves Guild patch IC Arena: Back when the performance issue was still a baby Invisible meteors that are still present in the Arena!

Thanks for posting. We get similar issues on X1. I stopped farming vMA for this reason. It's just not worth the trouble.

Sleep · July 2016

i thought that was intended on pc

Vaoh · July 2016

Clarkieson wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

This video is intended for ZOS to get an idea of what people have been causing an uproar over on the forums and especially in-game lately. We are told videos are the most helpful since this issue is apparently difficult to detect so here it is!

Within the video, I recorded a few instances worth looking into. It was all recorded over three or four separate days where I felt it would be worth saving clips to make a video one day. None of these situations are odd, and represent much of the "typical" gameplay in ESO atm performance-wise.

Stutters, health desyncs, FPS drops, load screens, and other performance issues make up the bulk of this video. My internet is absolutely flawless, and I triple checked my router to eliminate that avenue of escape to take the blame off ESO. I speed up long load screens and long parts of clips. Enjoy, and please fix! (boring video ahead)

P.S. A big part I missed was to include how group dungeons no longer function correctly anymore, in that there are mid-dungeon loading screens which often are permanent, enemies refusing to appear on screen, and other general performance-related issues.

https://youtu.be/_nBuKJpzQgA
NOTE: In the first and second clip, neither of the players were exploiting anything. They simply spammed one skill, yet the result was as shown on my screen (instantly killed from health desync)!

Video Clip Guide
00:00 - 00:54 Snipe Health Desync

00:55 - 01:11 Funnel Health Desync

01:12 - 02:11 vMA Crematorial Guard Health Desync (Magicka NB went from V2 to CP501. First vMA attempt and this happens -_-)

02:12 - 03:47 Stutter Performance Issue in vMA (Magicka NB went from V2 to CP501. First vMA attempt and this happens -_-)

03:48 - 04:58 Wayrest Performance: Low FPS, Cut Audio, Invisible NPCs and Guards, Player Silhouettes, Difficulties w/ World Map

04:59 - 06:53 Wayrest Performance: Low FPS, Load Screens, NPCs not spawning, Player Silhouettes, unloaded textures

06:54 - 08:20 Greenshade Performance: Multiple Load Screens, Very Little distance traveled per load screen, stuff popping in out of nowhere, etc

08:21 - 09:29 Bangkorai Performance: Same as Greenshade since the issue is universal across possibly all zones, heavily underpopulated zone yet still have load screens and character movement speed does not change this

09:30 - 09:51 Thieves Guild patch IC Arena: Back when the performance issue was still a baby Invisible meteors that are still present in the Arena!

Nice vid

Got to love those lag spikes lol

i do wonder what causes them tho. it does seen that certain players in cyrodiil can time there lag spikes just as they spam an ability. is it just luck with timing?

its way too much of a coincidence that a huge lag spike can result in being hit with 5 snipes and then take damage while you are dead on the floor

i have been “de-synced” by certain players right when you are on execute health more often that just “luck”

i do not play on wireless internet, i do have fibre optic internet and my router is specifically set up for ps4 gaming.

cyrodiil is a laggy mess. i have heard that the lag is to do with certain countries firewalls, surveillance and or ancient telephone infrastructure. true or not, the game does seem to struggle when people connect to the server from far away places, and places where “freedom” is at a premium.

and yes i do believe people lagswitch on ps4, i have heard stories on who does it and a quick google search will show you how to tape a simple switch to the back of the ps4 controller for you to tap at your pleasure. it happens and i believe people do it.

but all that seems to be irrelevant in PVE, i have seen the dungeon, trial and maelstrom glitches for myself and im sure you can rule out lagswitching from boss monsters.

Valkyn skoria can kill you with his heavy attack before the animation, does that make valkyn skoria a lagswitcher? no it doesn't.

PVE is now a laggy mess too but this has only happened recently. Imperial city dlc was the las time i remember PVE working well and it has got steadily worse since that dlc.

Frame rates always were a lottery. it seems RNG has part to play. 60fps? more like a number between 5fps and 60fps and you can adjust play style to compensate. just do your skill rotation and hope for the best.

something is badly wrong with the way this game interacts with the internet, or the internet itself is to blame. People playing on wifi or mobile phone internet creates longer signal paths and increases ping speeds.

HD video streaming does destroy bandwidths. Netflix, youtube etc in every house in the UK might not be helping the situation but nothing can be done about it.

I feel that all the above issues are here to stay and we all might as well get used to it. Such a shame as this game is wonderful really.

That part I bolded. He lifts his blade for a heavy attack, and the damage procs a few seconds before swinging it.

You cannot imagine how many of my Vet City of Ash solo no-death runs were ended from this. He's a fun boss to fight alone imo right up until this happens. Something like a ~10% chance in my experience of happening per heavy attack.

pecheckler · July 2016

I can understand and occasionally even deal with the network latency lag. It's a classic issue present in nearly all games. What I cannot deal with is the constant STUTTERING, random LOADING SCREENS OUT OF NO WHERE, INVISIBLE NPCS AND PLAYERS, AND GAME CRASHES.

DPG76 · July 2016

437K bounty !!!!!!!!!!!!! was it because of the lag ?

This vid is still ok when i compare to some days for me man .. i really stutter from one point to the other to be teleported like a few secs back pushing an interaction button at vendor and/or crafting and having an effect like 3 secs later , lag lag lag and then for a few days its like fluid gameplay none of the problems i stated here to be back to a unpleasant laggy moments .

Pvp most of the time when lots of people together and POI like in Grahtwood etc

ps , i still think you have a bigger problem with laW in game dude 437K !!!!!!!!

Vaoh · July 2016

DeepPlayGamer wrote: »

437K bounty !!!!!!!!!!!!! was it because of the lag ?
This vid is still ok when i compare to some days for me man .. i really stutter from one point to the other to be teleported like a few secs back pushing an interaction button at vendor and/or crafting and having an effect like 3 secs later , lag lag lag and then for a few days its like fluid gameplay none of the problems i stated here to be back to a unpleasant laggy moments .

Pvp most of the time when lots of people together and POI like in Grahtwood etc

ps , i still think you have a bigger problem with laW in game dude 437K !!!!!!!!

It used to be over 2,000,000 gold!

Killed a lot of elves. Been going down for a very long time now lol. Screenshot evidence will be posted as soon as I get home. Didn't know it would attract so much attention!

And as I said, this is typical gameplay. I made sure specifically to not record anything too out of the ordinary. There is far, far more shocking clips which I could've included. This is simply the average day in ESO version.