Stamina Sorc: Need some tips/Is Pelinals a good option?

datgladiatah

I have two vet characters at this point, c363, and I spent most of my gold making the two of them viable. The next two characters I'm really interested in making is a Stamsorc and a magplar (also have a nb healer but i'm just going to use them for PVE for now). Stamsorc definitely looks the most interesting to me right now, but I'm not sure where to go with them besides the basic hundings/night mother/agi or skirmishers. I was thinking about Pelinals because i could open up more damaging streaks, crystal fragments, matriarch, etc. But I'm not sure what the best option for them is.

Currently I have an orc sorc that I want to either go 2h/dw , 2h/bow or dw/bow. If anyone has some insight on this it would be greatly appreciated!

bebynnag

the pelinials route is of course worth consideraton, but bear in mind that most sorc skills scale more off magic than spell damage.

my WW StOrc (stam storc orc) is 2h dual because of the melle weapon damage bonus - i do miss range though

datgladiatah

I think I want to do dw/bow rather than 2h/bow more just because both weapons give me the potential to get major expedition. I might try ww, but is vamp still good with them? Idk how their damage scaling works.

Jar_Ek

Your magicka resource pool will be rubbish as a stamina sorcerer and hence magicka based attacks will be relatively weak even with Pel, and you'll run dry of magicka quickly. Better to focus on stamina and use the magicka for cc / buffs.

As for weapon choice - surge (which is a good heal and a brutality buff) best supports dw and bow and maelstrom daggers make dots lethal... so dw and whatever you like. 2h for a gap closer and secondary heal or bow for range and more dots.

Toast_STS

I'm running dual wield/bow on my stam sorc at the moment. 5 piece briarheart, 5 piece viper's sting.

The briarheart heals work really well with the surge heals from sorc. Just stack lots of dots. Caltrops, barrage, flury, blood craze.

greylox

I like the flanking set on my stam sorc.

RinaldoGandolphi

The pelinal set can be good on Stam sorc. Imo the main thing about it is you can use Mages Wrath as an execute burst(lasts for 4 secs and blows up if they get to 20% health) you can easily get an 8-9k Mages Wrath explosion and it also allows you to use Velicious Curse if you want.

It makes Sorc the best hybrid and builds similar to Rhin STC old Stam sorc become very viable again.

Xvorg

greylox wrote: »

I like the flanking set on my stam sorc.

Yup, it is nice when ganking

Xvorg

Jar_Ek wrote: »

Your magicka resource pool will be rubbish as a stamina sorcerer and hence magicka based attacks will be relatively weak even with Pel, and you'll run dry of magicka quickly. Better to focus on stamina and use the magicka for cc / buffs.

As for weapon choice - surge (which is a good heal and a brutality buff) best supports dw and bow and maelstrom daggers make dots lethal... so dw and whatever you like. 2h for a gap closer and secondary heal or bow for range and more dots.

Does Pelinal's work on Major sorc and Brut? If yes, then I don't see it is a bad idea:

Let's say 3K Wpn (and spell) dmg

Power surge = 40% extra wpn (and spell dmg) = 4200 Wpn and spell dmg.

You don't need to use any magicka skill

And if you add a minor buff, you can get 50% extra wpn (and spell dmg)

antihero727

datgladiatah wrote: »

I have two vet characters at this point, c363, and I spent most of my gold making the two of them viable. The next two characters I'm really interested in making is a Stamsorc and a magplar (also have a nb healer but i'm just going to use them for PVE for now). Stamsorc definitely looks the most interesting to me right now, but I'm not sure where to go with them besides the basic hundings/night mother/agi or skirmishers. I was thinking about Pelinals because i could open up more damaging streaks, crystal fragments, matriarch, etc. But I'm not sure what the best option for them is.

Currently I have an orc sorc that I want to either go 2h/dw , 2h/bow or dw/bow. If anyone has some insight on this it would be greatly appreciated!

Pve focus or pvp?

Acsvf

Xvorg wrote: »

Power surge = 40% extra wpn (and spell dmg) = 4200 Wpn and spell dmg.

No, it's 20%. Pelinal's makes the lower spell/weapon damage equal to the higher- it can never increase the one that was higher.

datgladiatah

Acsvf wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Power surge = 40% extra wpn (and spell dmg) = 4200 Wpn and spell dmg.

No, it's 20%. Pelinal's makes the lower spell/weapon damage equal to the higher- it can never increase the one that was higher.

Yeah, but that would mean if you raise the higher one it would simultaneously raise the lower, right? So there's at least that, unless it knows this and doesn't allow it to buff without the coinciding buff type.

I like the idea of Briarhearts but I'm definitely going to have to save up some money for a Viper set.

I was considering Valkyn Skoria with Hunding's Rage and Agi rings until I got a more unique 5 piece set. I currently have Skirmishers which I think would work nice with the speed, but I also hate having to roll every 5 seconds to maximize dps in PvE even tho i bet it'd be pretty good in pvp. I have to consider farming for Briarheart items, I had a few but idk if I sold them. But is there any good way or ability that raises Sorc weapon crit? Seems like, even with surge, they have the lowest weapon crit chance of anyone except maybe a DK?

Jar_Ek

Sorry I wasn't very clear tbh, there is nothing wrong with Pels and it will increase make your weapon and spell damage match but I don't think that magicka abilities damage then scales to stamina, or use weapon critical chance, or use weapon based champion points. Thus Pels can make for a decent hybrid, but at a cost in terms of cp distribution and resource distribution.

bigereard

Hi, from my experience, pelinals really shines on DoT and HoT build.
You can combine the most efficient DoT & HoT from stamina skill and magicka skill.
If you want to spam DPS or Heal, focused (mag/stam) build is significantly better.

Sorc class only has 2 DoT & no HoT.
Ward shield & Summon damage also scaled to max magicka instead of spell damage.
But of course there's still tons of DoT & HoT ability from other skill tree.

Alternative for briarheart:
Quick siphon (Resto) combine with fast attack from dual wield works very well with pelinals.
Heal from quick siphon scaled with magicka+spell damage, damage and heal from dual wields skill scaled with stamina+weapon damage.

For resource:
uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=421
Pelinals & Fury sets still bugged in this builder, actually it could reach 5k for both weapon and spell damage.

This build have decent sustain, 1,6k for both regen + constitution with 5 heavy (equal to extra 415 regen for both resource).
Sorc have extra 20% stamina regen & 10% magicka regen, even more if you go vampire.