So with the maintenance...

LiquidSchwartz

gap closers arent listed in the known issues for being able to jump keeps..? And neither is malubeth???? ):

Unsent.Soul

It's been pretty clear what this patch maint. is for. Never once did they mention gap closers or that set.

Clarkieson

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/277421/console-natch-potes/p1

Check post by @AJ_1988 about halfway down the page

DRXHarbinger

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

gap closers arent listed in the known issues for being able to jump keeps..? And neither is malubeth???? ):

Secretly this is intended. Sieging is painfully tedious and long sometimes and just speeds it up.

For those that don't like it there is a bow skill that'll blow them off the edge anyway.

Malubeth intended too. Keep your distance and it's useless.

LiquidSchwartz

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

gap closers arent listed in the known issues for being able to jump keeps..? And neither is malubeth???? ):

Secretly this is intended. Sieging is painfully tedious and long sometimes and just speeds it up.

For those that don't like it there is a bow skill that'll blow them off the edge anyway.

Malubeth intended too. Keep your distance and it's useless.

Idgi crit rush never works for me but i see tons of people doing it

mb10

leave the gap closers alone! its effective and a different way to get into keeps i think its a good thing

Asmael

I did an extensive test yesterday about Malubeth. Facing a single person putting dots (Flurry, Vicecannon, poison injection...) on me for 4 minutes straight, not a single healing from Malubeth was off the chart (average at like 450 with max around 550).

There was like 80 Malubeth procs. Much to my surprise, it seems the way it heals has been changed, so it actually heals over a duration (if it says it steals 7k from your opponent, it'll be something like 250 health stolen ever half second).

Has someone recently tested it again, and managed to get extremely high healing from it?

I recorded it, I'll check it out again, just to make sure.

DRXHarbinger

Asmael wrote: »

I did an extensive test yesterday about Malubeth. Facing a single person putting dots (Flurry, Vicecannon, poison injection...) on me for 4 minutes straight, not a single healing from Malubeth was off the chart (average at like 450 with max around 550).

There was like 80 Malubeth procs. Much to my surprise, it seems the way it heals has been changed, so it actually heals over a duration (if it says it steals 7k from your opponent, it'll be something like 250 health stolen ever half second).

Has someone recently tested it again, and managed to get extremely high healing from it?

I recorded it, I'll check it out again, just to make sure.

It's just the 30% boost for healing that everyone cries about. Stacks with blessed too. You gun down a templar and if it procs it's just one bol back to full health even in pvp. But most people just stand there and try and hack through it. If you back off and fight from 10m away, spam some poison injection and explosive arrow and then lunge in to finish them off afterwards it's fine.

Nothing changed with the set at all. A few actually good pvp people tried it out and now everyone is at it, months ago everyone called this set trash until they actually used it and now it's the meta for nerf calling.

Wait till the next monster sets come out. Perma buff stacked with hist bar for perma shuffle and glorious defender will he nigh invincible.

Right now everyone calls this set up trash but wait and see. 29% chance to dodge without any cost involved at all and a skill bar stacked with all attacks and a heal. Sounds pretty epic atm to me. Await the nay sayers.

Turelus

mb10 wrote: »

leave the gap closers alone! its effective and a different way to get into keeps i think its a good thing

@mb10 It's also a confirmed exploit as of yesterday. Meaning if you're reported for using it you can face action against your account.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hey everyone,

We are working on making some tweaks to certain gap closers that players are using to bypass core keep capture mechanics. It is not intended that gap closers be used to enter keeps without downing doors and/or walls, or enter areas you otherwise would not be able to without exploiting (below Dolmens, under water, etc.) While we are aware that players are using certain gap closers to do exactly these things, we do considered this behavior an exploit.

If you see another player exploiting in this manner, you can send us videos or other evidence by submitting a customer support ticket, by sending them to anyone on the Community or Moderation team here on the forums, or emailing us at community@elderscrollsonline.com.

Thank you!

mb10

@Turelus wow thanks for the info mate. They really shoud put that as a message in the game as not everybody uses these forums

Turelus

mb10 wrote: »

@Turelus wow thanks for the info mate. They really shoud put that as a message in the game as not everybody uses these forums

I said exactly that in a post this morning.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno please note that this proves my point that when a decision like this is made it NEEDS to be announced in a news article/blog post as well as being on the launcher/log-in screen. As per my post this morning here.

JAMESLJNR

Turelus wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

leave the gap closers alone! its effective and a different way to get into keeps i think its a good thing

@mb10 It's also a confirmed exploit as of yesterday. Meaning if you're reported for using it you can face action against your account.

Yeah like all those people who got millions worth of tempering alloys and then got banned for 3 days?

pod88kk

How long has it been down for so far? I'm just after waking up.

Turelus

JAMESLJNR wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

leave the gap closers alone! its effective and a different way to get into keeps i think its a good thing

@mb10 It's also a confirmed exploit as of yesterday. Meaning if you're reported for using it you can face action against your account.

Yeah like all those people who got millions worth of tempering alloys and then got banned for 3 days?

Well as it's now emerged that ZOS seem to use a 3 strike system being caught doing this will land a permanent mark on your account. Also they've been more heavy handed with things since the fallout of the cheat engine.

It's up to each player if they want to risk it for the gains they get, but ZOS have made a warning now.

mistermutiny89

A mate of mine and myself took a keep with one other random today: it felt a little naughty and very unrewarding but to be fair the Reds had all the keeps on the map and it was ours first.

Turelus

mistermutiny89 wrote: »

A mate of mine and myself took a keep with one other random today: it felt a little naughty and very unrewarding but to be fair the Reds had all the keeps on the map and it was ours first.

@mistermutiny89 if you're talking about doing so via using the gap closers you are aware you just admitted to exploiting. ZOS are already looking into one player who posted on the forums bragging they used gap closers to take keeps.

LiquidSchwartz

Turelus wrote: »

mistermutiny89 wrote: »

A mate of mine and myself took a keep with one other random today: it felt a little naughty and very unrewarding but to be fair the Reds had all the keeps on the map and it was ours first.

@mistermutiny89 if you're talking about doing so via using the gap closers you are aware you just admitted to exploiting. ZOS are already looking into one player who posted on the forums bragging they used gap closers to take keeps.

He admitted nothing

Turelus

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

mistermutiny89 wrote: »

A mate of mine and myself took a keep with one other random today: it felt a little naughty and very unrewarding but to be fair the Reds had all the keeps on the map and it was ours first.

@mistermutiny89 if you're talking about doing so via using the gap closers you are aware you just admitted to exploiting. ZOS are already looking into one player who posted on the forums bragging they used gap closers to take keeps.

He admitted nothing

I know, but I wanted to warn him in case he went further with comments in other posts. He can simply say that this was due to a siege and nothing which is breaking ToS.

mistermutiny89

I Pvp for ap not captures. We were only there because it showed the castle was under attack... We ran around the whole castle and saw no seige, I used lotus fan on an add because I see lots of people doing it in big battles and for once it worked and inside there was a hole instead the inner building with one blue and zero reds. Got a poxy 200 ap and left.

As I said, not at all rewarding and I won't be doing it again.

bebynnag

i was told i was an idiot for using it a while ago - becuase and i quote "its a pointless & pathetic set, that only noobs use" but for a non PVPing character that needed skyshards, it seemed easiet 2 equip my 2 crit resist maulbeth than make a new set/redistribute champ points.

when a templar killed themselves trying to kill me (i wasnt fighting) i figured, maybee it is a noob set, but its perfect against noobs too!

Ep1kMalware

JAMESLJNR wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

leave the gap closers alone! its effective and a different way to get into keeps i think its a good thing

@mb10 It's also a confirmed exploit as of yesterday. Meaning if you're reported for using it you can face action against your account.

Yeah like all those people who got millions worth of tempering alloys and then got banned for 3 days?

yeap. friens of mine wanted me to do it with him. I told him I'd wait a couple days, see if he got banned. He did, very next day in fact. As soon as I heard it was 3 days I immediately regretted not cheating and exploiting the game.

how *** up is that?

Turelus

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

JAMESLJNR wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

leave the gap closers alone! its effective and a different way to get into keeps i think its a good thing

@mb10 It's also a confirmed exploit as of yesterday. Meaning if you're reported for using it you can face action against your account.

Yeah like all those people who got millions worth of tempering alloys and then got banned for 3 days?

yeap. friens of mine wanted me to do it with him. I told him I'd wait a couple days, see if he got banned. He did, very next day in fact. As soon as I heard it was 3 days I immediately regretted not cheating and exploiting the game.

how *** up is that?

The temp ban wouldn't be an issue if ZOS did what every other company does and remove the gains from the banned accounts. There is nothing wrong with a suspension system to let players have a second chance but you can't do that if they gain from it.

Ep1kMalware

Turelus wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

JAMESLJNR wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

leave the gap closers alone! its effective and a different way to get into keeps i think its a good thing

@mb10 It's also a confirmed exploit as of yesterday. Meaning if you're reported for using it you can face action against your account.

Yeah like all those people who got millions worth of tempering alloys and then got banned for 3 days?

yeap. friens of mine wanted me to do it with him. I told him I'd wait a couple days, see if he got banned. He did, very next day in fact. As soon as I heard it was 3 days I immediately regretted not cheating and exploiting the game.

how *** up is that?

The temp ban wouldn't be an issue if ZOS did what every other company does and remove the gains from the banned accounts. There is nothing wrong with a suspension system to let players have a second chance but you can't do that if they gain from it.

exactly. I always hear all these comments in gamw about how so and so would totally have expla=oited such amd such bug for a 3 day ban if they had known about it. Punishment shouldn't be considered a fair trade-off, it should be a deterrent in general. as it stands at, I kinda regret not having stacks of matts. I worked doh]uble shifts the next few days anyway, 3 day ban wouldn't hurt me.

@zos I was a good little boy and my friend made 5.5m in 6hrs. So sincd we here are all above bug abuse can we have 6m cuz we're better than that? Oh, and free eso+ for being honest. Or am I getting punished for honest gameplay because only cheaters prosper in eso?

Clerics1985

Felt like my toppling charge was Finally working Decently for me at least on PC NA last night, idk if it was in the patch or just something that got Ghost fixed but it felt much better.

Balthyzar

The sad thing is that anyone that's been banned for using gap closers as an exploit gets let back in as soon as they send a support ticket crying about it. In most cases they are only banned over night while they are offline anyway. ZOS needs to stand by their bans and not back out when the children cry about not being able to play. Fix the problem or perma ban anyone that uses it.