Buff Sun Shield/Radiant Ward In PvP

Molag_Crow

The Templar ability in the Aedric Spear, unlocked at level 42; is possibly the most useless skill in the entire game (especially inside Cyrodiil,) after its nerfs because of a battle spirit etc. The average Templar in Cyrodiil has around 20-30k health, and even then, the shield (16% of max health in PvP) barely absorbs a hit from a wet noodle. I'm not talking about the minority of builds that stack 50k+ Health with lots of magicka recovery, purely just to run into a group of enemies in hopes that the Blazing Shield (morph) explodes enemies, I'm talking about an actual defensive ability for a class (mainly Magicka) who are currently sitting ducks, who are forced to spam heal and spam block to survive burst. (Mainly in group pvp, not 1v1, Cyrodiil is a battlefield, not a dueling arena.)

Molag_Crow

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

My idea would be: Make a morph scale off of Max Magicka by 20-30% in PvP rather than 16% of Max Health and get rid of the reflected damage effect or something.

DRXHarbinger

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

Yes buff it. My 60k health tank would love it being even more op.

phaith

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

Obviously has never seen a blazing shield tank

Molag_Crow

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

phaith wrote: »

Obviously has never seen a blazing shield tank

I have, plenty of them, they're boring and rely on zergs/groups to be of any use.

xblackroxe

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

I would make health based stuff not affected by battlespirit. Though I don't really want to give templars more buffs. They are already unkillable. Transmutation + impen + malu + reactive == unkillable healbot scrub. But DK's deserve a good dragon blood and thats the only idea I have that would be not OP.

RAGUNAnoOne

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

Yead same with all the other "Useless" shields that scale with the one resouce Zenimax wants to discourage using...

I would increase the health to resources ratio by a lot like 1.7 times that may help.

WillhelmBlack

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

My idea would be to take away all the TG and DB buffs to Templar and make Blazing Shield give you an actual decent shield. You'd think that would have been a lot easier and less resourceful wouldn't ya?

Khaos_Bane

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

You mean you want the skill to actually be useful?

susmitds

No, because...

Do you have any freaking idea how powerful Blazing Shield treats Templars are?


A big NO

leepalmer95

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

If they buff it in a way where they don't buff those boring 60k shield spammers.

But it's a % based skill, i'm hoping if they change it they change dragon blood.

Junipus

Molag_Crow wrote: »

My idea would be: Make a morph scale off of Max Magicka by 20-30% in PvP rather than 16% of Max Health and get rid of the reflected damage effect or something.

Yes, No.

Scale it off max magicka on one morph and max stamina on the other, then keep the reflected damage effect but remove the BS from it. Assuming you had 40k of either resource, you'd have shields of 12k with damage of 6k or so as a base line. Whilst it might seem OP, the way to deal with them would be the same pre-1.6 and simply kite them as you should do with the 50k+ health templars currently.

leepalmer95

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

Junipus wrote: »

Molag_Crow wrote: »

My idea would be: Make a morph scale off of Max Magicka by 20-30% in PvP rather than 16% of Max Health and get rid of the reflected damage effect or something.

Yes, No.

Scale it off max magicka on one morph and max stamina on the other, then keep the reflected damage effect but remove the BS from it. Assuming you had 40k of either resource, you'd have shields of 12k with damage of 6k or so as a base line. Whilst it might seem OP, the way to deal with them would be the same pre-1.6 and simply kite them as you should do with the 50k+ health templars currently.

But in that situation melee would be useless vs any magicka templar. Which is stupidly OP.

MaxwellC

No, because...

I think it's time that all shields start scaling off of max health; You shouldn't be able to be completely offensive thus giving you better defences. If that time comes then the shields should have their duration return to what they were prior to DB release.

Neoauspex

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

Reflect stun/snare effects

Panth141

I agree that it is subpar for 'standard' templars but any buff that further boosts the nuisance BSPlars (BS is blazing shield, of course ) would seriously suck.

I'll reserve judgement until I hear a suggestion that boosts its viability for the class without helping 'stand still and spam' builds.

Lokey0024

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

I want this game broken as possible so most of everyone leaves and my solo pvp is not laggy.

Van_0S

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

Raident ward(stamina morph):The shield strength becomes stronger, when the casters health is low also grants minor Vatality and minor fortitude for 6sec .


Blazing shield( magicka morph): deals x magic damage and returns magicka to the caster based the number of targets it hits by 10%.

Recremen

No, because...

Unless they can somehow nerf the Blazing Shield build I really don't think buffing the skill in general is a good idea. Not that I think the Blazing Shield build is OP, it's niche and can be countered with clever ranged attacks, etc., but it would have to get nerfed if the skill as a whole was getting buffed.

DannyLV702

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

I think it's time that all shields start scaling off of max health; You shouldn't be able to be completely offensive thus giving you better defences. If that time comes then the shields should have their duration return to what they were prior to DB release.

After the nerf to sorc shields? Are out of your mind? Tell me exactly how useful a sorcerer will be if your idea is implemented...

Arciris

No, because...

No because magika templars can use Annulment from the light armor tree if they want/need a damage shield.
And No because health stacking Templar tanks trolling with blazing shield don't need to get buffed, nor nerfed for that matter (it's a niche playstyle some people enjoy in both PvP and PvE).

dodgehopper_ESO

My only thought is that Health still ought to be meaningful in this game. I personally don't think shield magnitude ought to be scaled off of ANYTHING except health in ESO.

Lightninvash

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

remove the shield completely and have a sacred ground that reduces damage for yourself and the team( and not a tiny circle like our "house") Make it to where our current "house" is more like the room and the new skill that replaces the shield becomes our house that we use to protect our allies. So while being in our room(previous "house") we will have extra defenses since we cant move far from our current "house"

EDIT: so an aoe protective area that reduces incoming damage for a period of time. We could use this for protecting ourselves and friends in the area to reduce the incoming damage. Could be at cost of our magicka(per person being protected like a drain magicka ability) to not be OP or have a very high cost so it wouldn't be spammed by everyone.

silky_soft

No, because...

Already op af on 68k hp templars.
Scale all shields from hp.

AtAfternoon

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

Yes but they need to reduce Templar's ability to heal as a whole to balance it.

Pomaikai

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

susmitds wrote: »

Do you have any freaking idea how powerful Blazing Shield treats Templars are?


A big NO

There are always 2 morphs. Make one the current offensive Blazing Shield morph, and the other an actually useful defensive shield that scales off of Magicka. The second morph would be useless to a Blazing Shields build Templar. Just cater to both Templar styles of play instead of just one.

Molag_Crow

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

silky_soft wrote: »

Already op af on 68k hp templars.
Scale all shields from hp.

A Templar with 60k+ Health & Blazing Shield can 1v1 someone and win? and a group of smart players?

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

No, because...

I created a Nord Templar with the pure purpose of being a blazing tank, not just in pvp but pve too. I love this build and I spent a lot of gold mats upgrading it, I'd like it to remain the same.

Templars have the light armour skill and BoL, Templar is in a good spot atm.

Junipus

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Junipus wrote: »

Molag_Crow wrote: »

My idea would be: Make a morph scale off of Max Magicka by 20-30% in PvP rather than 16% of Max Health and get rid of the reflected damage effect or something.

Yes, No.

Scale it off max magicka on one morph and max stamina on the other, then keep the reflected damage effect but remove the BS from it. Assuming you had 40k of either resource, you'd have shields of 12k with damage of 6k or so as a base line. Whilst it might seem OP, the way to deal with them would be the same pre-1.6 and simply kite them as you should do with the 50k+ health templars currently.

But in that situation melee would be useless vs any magicka templar. Which is stupidly OP.

If you're playing against anyone with both bars on 2h, or one DW and one 2h without any range then you're really not properly equipped for PvP. Everyone has range abilities and can use them on a BS magplar/stamplar with the above suggestions. If they change the range to 5m as well then it'll make it easier to kite them

Greiver

No, because...

You obviously haven't run into a Templar in pvp using it.

Molag_Crow

Yes (what buff idea do you have?)

Greiver wrote: »

You obviously haven't run into a Templar in pvp using it.

A few actually but they're not even a problem in my opinion. Maybe I am being naive though, I'll need to see a video of somebody successfully being "OP" with Blazing Shield in the current patch, and by that, I don't particularly mean somebody in an organized group who goes vs other groups, more of a... 1vX-type of deal or 1v1 etc

By "buff" I don't just mean make it stronger for THOSE Templars who are already using it effectively, I mean buff it to give it more useful morphs but I guess that's asking for too much as there's plenty of abilities in-game that could do with better morphs, like Volley for example.