Khajiit failling behind other races?

Tykune

So I am trying to find a way to make a khajiit into a warrior-like character, but it seems that no matter what class I look into, be it templar or dk, it seems that they make a very poor choice compared to other races, even with their benefits to crit, damage, and stamina.. and anytime I try to get some advice on the matter, I am only told that there are better races for DK and Templar, and that a Khajiit will only ever make a good nightblade or maybe even sorcerer, despite other classes still out-performing them. So.. what I would like to ask if there is a way to build a khajiit with a warrior-like stamina playstyle while still being viable all the way to even end-game content without suffering from being inefficient.

Snatchez

For pve theyre great for dps. Not sure what you mean by "warrior," a khajitts racial passives scream dps and theyre suitable for both magika or stam builds. If your wanting something tanky then there are better races for you like an Imperial.

SanSan

Khajiit are great for anything...

Tykune

Snatchez wrote: »

For pve theyre great for dps. Not sure what you mean by "warrior," a khajitts racial passives scream dps and theyre suitable for both magika or stam builds. If your wanting something tanky then there are better races for you like an Imperial.

I was thinking something along the lines of templar with medium armor since I want to find a way to capitalize on their dps potential, but I am consistently told that an Imperial would do a better job with it due to their max stamina increase. Khajiits don't really have anything that would benefit towards a tank other than 30% more hp regeneration when in combat.

But overall, I am trying to find a way to do a dps style stamina warrior without using nightblade. Dunmer seem to be the kings of DK damage, so I don't think there is a way to even touch that.

wayfarerx

Tykune wrote: »

If people aren't going to post serious responses, just don't post and move on. I've been putting a lot of serious thought into this and these pointless posts offer no information or advice whatsoever.

Have you read the patch notes of the next major update? Khajiit are losing the health regen and getting max stamina. Many threads on these forums are calling them overpowered. You can literally pick any class, load up on medium armor and be wrecking face in no time.

That's why you're getting the sarcastic responses.

Tryxus

Tykune wrote: »

If people aren't going to post serious responses, just don't post and move on. I've been putting a lot of serious thought into this and these pointless posts offer no information or advice whatsoever.

Have you read the PTS patch notes? Khajiit get:

- Extra Stamina
- Extra Crit
- Extra Stamina Regen
- Extra Stealth Damage

This'll make them the best Stamina DPS race there is. Best StamKnights and StamBlades.

(which is why ppl aren't taking your post seriously)

Tykune

wayfarerx wrote: »

Tykune wrote: »

If people aren't going to post serious responses, just don't post and move on. I've been putting a lot of serious thought into this and these pointless posts offer no information or advice whatsoever.

Have you read the patch notes of the next major update? Khajiit are losing the health regen and getting max stamina. Many threads on these forums are calling them overpowered. You can literally pick any class, load up on medium armor and be wrecking face in no time.

That's why you're getting the sarcastic responses.

I have not seen that, actually. I will have to look into how that will change things for Khajiit, but it really depends on how much stamina they will be getting. Happen to have a link to the notes?

wayfarerx

Tykune wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

Tykune wrote: »

If people aren't going to post serious responses, just don't post and move on. I've been putting a lot of serious thought into this and these pointless posts offer no information or advice whatsoever.

Have you read the patch notes of the next major update? Khajiit are losing the health regen and getting max stamina. Many threads on these forums are calling them overpowered. You can literally pick any class, load up on medium armor and be wrecking face in no time.

That's why you're getting the sarcastic responses.

I have not seen that, actually. I will have to look into how that will change things for Khajiit, but it really depends on how much stamina they will be getting. Happen to have a link to the notes?

Click here, then scroll down a bit.

Tykune

6% more stamina really isn't that much, but at least the useless health regen was taken out and replaced with something more useful. For a stamina build, would templar or dk benefit more? I am not sure if the increase in stamina would out-weigh the extra fire damage that dunmer get as a dk.

dodgehopper_ESO

Tykune wrote: »

6% more stamina really isn't that much, but at least the useless health regen was taken out and replaced with something more useful. For a stamina build, would templar or dk benefit more? I am not sure if the increase in stamina would out-weigh the extra fire damage that dunmer get as a dk.

For people with health regen tanking builds it wasn't useless. (Of course there are better races with bonus Health to go along with it, like Nord and Orc). 6% is not a joke, particularly when you factor in the crit.

Dagoth_Rac

Tykune wrote: »

6% more stamina really isn't that much, but at least the useless health regen was taken out and replaced with something more useful. For a stamina build, would templar or dk benefit more? I am not sure if the increase in stamina would out-weigh the extra fire damage that dunmer get as a dk.

Fire damage cannot be used by a warrior class. Fire is for magicka DK in light armor with a staff. A warrior DK in medium armor would use the stamina/poisin morphs. Those gain nothing from the Dumner fire damage passive. Khajiit is best race for warrior/stamina DK.

Also, 6% max stamina + 8% weapon crit is much better than Imperial +10% stamina. The 8% weapon crit alone is probably better than 10% stamina, especially if doing high end PvE DPS with lots of Rearing Trap and Warhorn to boost critical damage bonus.

Tykune

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Tykune wrote: »

6% more stamina really isn't that much, but at least the useless health regen was taken out and replaced with something more useful. For a stamina build, would templar or dk benefit more? I am not sure if the increase in stamina would out-weigh the extra fire damage that dunmer get as a dk.

Fire damage cannot be used by a warrior class. Fire is for magicka DK in light armor with a staff. A warrior DK in medium armor would use the stamina/poisin morphs. Those gain nothing from the Dumner fire damage passive. Khajiit is best race for warrior/stamina DK.

Also, 6% max stamina + 8% weapon crit is much better than Imperial +10% stamina. The 8% weapon crit alone is probably better than 10% stamina, especially if doing high end PvE DPS with lots of Rearing Trap and Warhorn to boost critical damage bonus.

So you think a khajiit would do better as a DK than a templar with stamina?

wayfarerx

Tykune wrote: »

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Tykune wrote: »

6% more stamina really isn't that much, but at least the useless health regen was taken out and replaced with something more useful. For a stamina build, would templar or dk benefit more? I am not sure if the increase in stamina would out-weigh the extra fire damage that dunmer get as a dk.

Fire damage cannot be used by a warrior class. Fire is for magicka DK in light armor with a staff. A warrior DK in medium armor would use the stamina/poisin morphs. Those gain nothing from the Dumner fire damage passive. Khajiit is best race for warrior/stamina DK.

Also, 6% max stamina + 8% weapon crit is much better than Imperial +10% stamina. The 8% weapon crit alone is probably better than 10% stamina, especially if doing high end PvE DPS with lots of Rearing Trap and Warhorn to boost critical damage bonus.

So you think a khajiit would do better as a DK than a templar with stamina?

So you know you want to be a Khajiit.

You know you want a stamina build.

At this point, DK is not better than Templar or vice versa. Considering how often ZOS likes to muck with class skills there is no future-proof call about one being better than the other.

Want to play an in-your-face, poison spewing crowd control monster? Roll a DK.

Want to play a self-healing aedric warrior that "defends his house?" Roll a templar.

At this point it's all about what playstyle you want, one is not objectively better than the other.

dodgehopper_ESO

wayfarerx wrote: »

Tykune wrote: »

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Tykune wrote: »

6% more stamina really isn't that much, but at least the useless health regen was taken out and replaced with something more useful. For a stamina build, would templar or dk benefit more? I am not sure if the increase in stamina would out-weigh the extra fire damage that dunmer get as a dk.

Fire damage cannot be used by a warrior class. Fire is for magicka DK in light armor with a staff. A warrior DK in medium armor would use the stamina/poisin morphs. Those gain nothing from the Dumner fire damage passive. Khajiit is best race for warrior/stamina DK.

Also, 6% max stamina + 8% weapon crit is much better than Imperial +10% stamina. The 8% weapon crit alone is probably better than 10% stamina, especially if doing high end PvE DPS with lots of Rearing Trap and Warhorn to boost critical damage bonus.

So you think a khajiit would do better as a DK than a templar with stamina?

So you know you want to be a Khajiit.

You know you want a stamina build.

At this point, DK is not better than Templar or vice versa. Considering how often ZOS likes to muck with class skills there is no future-proof call about one being better than the other.

Want to play an in-your-face, poison spewing crowd control monster? Roll a DK.

Want to play a self-healing aedric warrior that "defends his house?" Roll a templar.

At this point it's all about what playstyle you want, one is not objectively better than the other.

Very logical. The rules keep changing, so the suggestion of 'go with what you like' has a lot of reason behind it. The background of rules is expected to be changing every major patch at this point.

Tykune

I'm honestly not sure. I'll have to look more in-depth at the two classes.

elium85

Khajiit Sorc! Hype for a finally viable build!

Eweroun

Tykune wrote: »

Snatchez wrote: »

For pve theyre great for dps. Not sure what you mean by "warrior," a khajitts racial passives scream dps and theyre suitable for both magika or stam builds. If your wanting something tanky then there are better races for you like an Imperial.

I was thinking something along the lines of templar with medium armor since I want to find a way to capitalize on their dps potential, but I am consistently told that an Imperial would do a better job with it due to their max stamina increase. Khajiits don't really have anything that would benefit towards a tank other than 30% more hp regeneration when in combat.

But overall, I am trying to find a way to do a dps style stamina warrior without using nightblade. Dunmer seem to be the kings of DK damage, so I don't think there is a way to even touch that.

One of the best tanks I know on the european server is a Khajiit; you can find his build on eso-skillfactory (woeler)
As said before, no problem in making a DPS of them

clayandaudrey_ESO

Eweroun wrote: »

Tykune wrote: »

Snatchez wrote: »

For pve theyre great for dps. Not sure what you mean by "warrior," a khajitts racial passives scream dps and theyre suitable for both magika or stam builds. If your wanting something tanky then there are better races for you like an Imperial.

I was thinking something along the lines of templar with medium armor since I want to find a way to capitalize on their dps potential, but I am consistently told that an Imperial would do a better job with it due to their max stamina increase. Khajiits don't really have anything that would benefit towards a tank other than 30% more hp regeneration when in combat.

But overall, I am trying to find a way to do a dps style stamina warrior without using nightblade. Dunmer seem to be the kings of DK damage, so I don't think there is a way to even touch that.

One of the best tanks I know on the european server is a Khajiit; you can find his build on eso-skillfactory (woeler)
As said before, no problem in making a DPS of them

You know that is the player not the race right? I am sure that guy would succeed no matter what race he picked.

Snatchez

When is the patch supposed to go live?

Dixa

khajit best stamina dps next patch
argonian best healer next patch

Autolycus

Khajiit has been best stam dps in pve for quite some time, and as of August will be even more so.