Remove the queue penalty

MaxwellC

I just did a random search and found one person so what happened well he/sheleft and now I'm penalized because said player left. This penalty system in place is completely stupid and should not have been in this game to begin with; players who've played Halo already know how that went down and it wasn't good for the developers.

Justice31st

Actually it is a great feature, so people cannot leave group right when it is formed. It has just been poorly executed by ZOS however.

Divinius

"Great Idea, Badly Executed" is ZOS's modus operandi.

Justice31st

Divinius wrote: »

"Great Idea, Badly Executed" is ZOS's modus operandi.

^The universal Zenimax moto.

MaxwellC

@Justice31st
Well see it's great in that mindset but certain dungeons do require at-least 200 CP so said person(s) won't fall behind is an issue. Today I random queued for WGT/ICP and I get into a WGT run; the problem is, is that the DPS had like 170 and 180 something and both DPS were lagging horribly behind. They kept dying and the DPS wasn't there heck a prime example that isn't WGT or ICP is todays undaunted I had two DPS both under 200 trying to DPS through-out the dungeon while me and the healer just sat there. The dungeon (banished cells) took so long I was getting frustrated, on the last boss the healer had to literally focusing on spamming RD because it was just so bad.

Smasherx74

There is also the issue where you cannot manually invite outside players into your que after you've que'd into the dungeon. I find this purely inconvenient, even if it's an attempt to make DF work better it's anti-productive and gets more pledges ripped than it gets going. Nobody wants to be qued into the end of a pledge, makes no sense not to let use invite guild mates.

Hexquisite

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@Justice31st
Well see it's great in that mindset but certain dungeons do require at-least 200 CP so said person(s) won't fall behind is an issue. Today I random queued for WGT/ICP and I get into a WGT run; the problem is, is that the DPS had like 170 and 180 something and both DPS were lagging horribly behind. They kept dying and the DPS wasn't there heck a prime example that isn't WGT or ICP is todays undaunted I had two DPS both under 200 trying to DPS through-out the dungeon while me and the healer just sat there. The dungeon (banished cells) took so long I was getting frustrated, on the last boss the healer had to literally focusing on spamming RD because it was just so bad.

What faction are you? All solo ques for me have been broken since DB release...were talking waiting in que 4 hours as a healer...I have qued as both healer and DPS, random, and specific. I am EP.

disintegr8

They should at least remove the penalty until they actually fix the group finder. You queue for an hour, get into a poor group, someone leaves, no replacements turn up and you get penalized before you can re-queue.

And going into WGT or ICP (and vCOA) in a random group is something I avoid, enough of my time has been wasted on trying to complete these with my tank using group finder. Have only ever completed WGT once and never completed the others.

MaxwellC

@Hexquisite
I'm DC on Xbox NA

Xylphan

LFG has been broken on the PC since DB. It's one of the reasons why I don't even bother logging into the game anymore. :P

Smileybones

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@Justice31st
Well see it's great in that mindset but certain dungeons do require at-least 200 CP so said person(s) won't fall behind is an issue. Today I random queued for WGT/ICP and I get into a WGT run; the problem is, is that the DPS had like 170 and 180 something and both DPS were lagging horribly behind. They kept dying and the DPS wasn't there heck a prime example that isn't WGT or ICP is todays undaunted I had two DPS both under 200 trying to DPS through-out the dungeon while me and the healer just sat there. The dungeon (banished cells) took so long I was getting frustrated, on the last boss the healer had to literally focusing on spamming RD because it was just so bad.

That's another issue. LEaving penalty is a good feature and should ot be removed.

MaxwellC

That isn't another issue it's what after effects occur thanks to this change. If players lack the power but have the strategy down then that's an issue that calls for them to get to an optimal CP level in order to complete the dungeon without being the major piece that holds the potential back.

This change has made it where now you have to try it (if you group randomly) instead of telling the person"Sorry mate but we/I need to finish this fast and need someone who I can for sure count on not holding everyone back". I'd rather get it done immediately rather than have someone who can't put up his/her share of the battle especially if they're a DPS or healer.