Player Housing in PTS Patch Notes.

Rex-Umbra · June 2016

World Building
A few new buildings were added to several zones, and the zone maps were updated accordingly. These buildings are not accessible at this time. In some of these locations, wildlife, and/or bystanders were removed or adjusted to make way for the new construction. In addition, some residents have been moved from their homes, and those buildings are no longer accessible. These changes are in preparation for the upcoming release of Player Housing.

Excited to look for these locations to get an idea of where we will be able to build player homes once they are released.

imnotanother · June 2016

It does sound like some homes may be purchased "as is" and some might be sold as plots to build your own.

Very interesting.

EDIT: I read the statement again and it sounds like the homes will already be built. I am unsure about being able to build our own.

BlackSparrow · June 2016

*Excitement intensifies*

nimander99 · June 2016

My excitement 'level' is 'rising'?

TerraDewBerry · June 2016

I'd really like to be able to build my own house... and, I want to be able to farm some provisioning/alchemy plants too. Still.. I'm excited about whatever comes (hoping it's not a crown store only option), because that will ruin my excitement.

N0TPLAYER2 · June 2016

Ahnastashia wrote: »

I'd really like to be able to build my own house... and, I want to be able to farm some provisioning/alchemy plants too. Still.. I'm excited about whatever comes (hoping it's not a crown store only option), because that will ruin my excitement.

Of course it's a crown store option.

Lord_Eomer · June 2016

Not sure what player housing will do? Artificial house for what? It's an adventure game, go out and enjoy..

Troneon · June 2016

I hope they don't forget about lorebooks in some buildings and remove them forever or lock them behind instances / buildings / quests like they usually do...

Abeille · June 2016

We need to organize an expedition. Let's find ALL of these locations and post here, maybe?

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · June 2016

Abeille wrote: »

We need to organize an expedition. Let's find ALL of these locations and post here, maybe?

This

Cazzy · June 2016

Abeille wrote: »

We need to organize an expedition. Let's find ALL of these locations and post here, maybe?

Yes!

I'm sad people were evicted to make room for us. Were they safely relocated? Or will I see them walking the streets?

bedlom · June 2016

Ooooooo!
: )

Avalon · June 2016

I'd much prefer they do Guild Housing first. Player housing is fairly useless. Guild Houses, however, can be upgraded to have crafting stations (maybe even new sets?), training areas (duels?), specific vendors/banks/fences/etc... They can serve such a greater purpose. And, wouldn't require any 'construction' in already designed areas - just make them pockets in Oblivion, we have a ton of room on the map to include five circles around the edge for guild housing. And then, the guild can purchase several different models, including 'outside' areas growing reagents, or nodes for mats...

Kahl_dur · June 2016

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Not sure what player housing will do? Artificial house for what? It's an adventure game, go out and enjoy..

It is kind of strange, isn't it? I'll be sitting in my house, playing a game where I'll be sitting in my house... *my brain hurts*

Seriously though, I'm looking forward to player housing. When I'm not out adventuring, I hope to have a place to display my weapons, armor, etc.

Betheny · June 2016

I hope they don't make it like guild traders, where you blind bid weekly on 300 houses across whole server for the chance to own a house for one week, highest bidder wins and you don't find out till after maintenance

Rex-Umbra · June 2016

Cazzy wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

We need to organize an expedition. Let's find ALL of these locations and post here, maybe?

Yes!

I'm sad people were evicted to make room for us. Were they safely relocated? Or will I see them walking the streets?

Haha poor NPCs

NobleNerd · June 2016

Betheny wrote: »

I hope they don't make it like guild traders, where you blind bid weekly on 300 houses across whole server for the chance to own a house for one week, highest bidder wins and you don't find out till after maintenance

UGH... yes this would be horrible.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · June 2016

Cazzy wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

We need to organize an expedition. Let's find ALL of these locations and post here, maybe?

Yes!

I'm sad people were evicted to make room for us. Were they safely relocated? Or will I see them walking the streets?

They were murdered by all the new Dark Brotherhood initiates.

Betheny · June 2016

NobleNerd wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

I hope they don't make it like guild traders, where you blind bid weekly on 300 houses across whole server for the chance to own a house for one week, highest bidder wins and you don't find out till after maintenance

UGH... yes this would be horrible.

It would be...I bet they're sitting there considering this right now.

Lose the bid for that week and all your stuff gets turfed onto the nearby street in a pile.

Nestor · June 2016

imnotanother wrote: »

It does sound like some homes may be purchased "as is" and some might be sold as plots to build your own.

Very interesting.

EDIT: I read the statement again and it sounds like the homes will already be built. I am unsure about being able to build our own.

@imnotanother

I doubt we could ever have the outside as a build it as you go type of house, being an MMO, they need to be able to present a consistent World Structure to everyone in the game.

However, I am sure the Interiors can be, or at least should be, upgradable. Then it won't matter if one has lots of improvements and others don't, they will still have the same overworld.

Betheny · June 2016

They could give us courtyard "exterior" areas, so that there's a wall up all around the garden, and you can grow flowers in your garden while still being part of the area only rendered to the owner and not passersby.

Ravinsild · June 2016

I'M SO EXCITED I'M HAVING A HEART ATTACK

BlackSparrow · June 2016

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

We need to organize an expedition. Let's find ALL of these locations and post here, maybe?

Yes!

I'm sad people were evicted to make room for us. Were they safely relocated? Or will I see them walking the streets?

They were murdered by all the new Dark Brotherhood initiates.

And those not already murdered are fleeing to Akavir. Player Housing is just a ploy to hide their mass escape off the continent.

Cazzy · June 2016

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

We need to organize an expedition. Let's find ALL of these locations and post here, maybe?

Yes!

I'm sad people were evicted to make room for us. Were they safely relocated? Or will I see them walking the streets?

They were murdered by all the new Dark Brotherhood initiates.

The neighbourhood has already gone downhill.

RocDonald · June 2016

I want a flat screen and a ps4 in my house so I can play ESO while playing ESO!

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · June 2016

Cazzy wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

We need to organize an expedition. Let's find ALL of these locations and post here, maybe?

Yes!

I'm sad people were evicted to make room for us. Were they safely relocated? Or will I see them walking the streets?

They were murdered by all the new Dark Brotherhood initiates.

The neighbourhood has already gone downhill.

Well at least the houses may become cheaper because of it

TerraDewBerry · June 2016

Betheny wrote: »

I hope they don't make it like guild traders, where you blind bid weekly on 300 houses across whole server for the chance to own a house for one week, highest bidder wins and you don't find out till after maintenance

That is one rat race I do not want to play. Personally, I think the guild trader rat race is insane.. if they dare do this with player housing.. I guess I just won't have a house.

ludvique · August 2016

The only mmorpg that I have played so far, which did player housing properly, was Star Wars Galaxies. That game had lots of flaws, but the housing part was great. You had different building deeds for the different planets (also generic ones that could be built on "buildable" planets), and in addition to the houses themselves you could create player cities. The different styles of the houses was a great asset to that part of the game, which got enhanced by decorating them in unique ways. As the game was sandbox-style, decorating the houses was extremely flexible (very much unlike Star Wars: The Old Republic, which is way too rigid, and in latter the "house" is an instance: which is a horrible idea). Basically you could place anything anywhere, and it was easy to create macros for the movement-commands. Another thing that was really good was that certain quest-rewards and drops were tailormade for decorating your different homes (example: a unique beast head to put up on the wall). The different sources of light, coming from a big variety of lamps and the like, made it possible to create quite an extra-ordinary feel to your favorite home. Furthermore: the decorations were items that could be crafted by the players (which would be a nice touch: not making everything something that players need to buy for real money off the Crown Store, for a change...).

What truly made this part of that game shine was the player cities. The cities could be expanded as the amount of houses and inhabitants grew, and with bigger sizes came the option of adding different public buildings to the cities. And such buildings, like for example cantinas, hotels or hospitals, gave buffs to the inhabitants. It was a great extra source of fun and depth to the game, and we had parties in the cantina every single Friday for many, many months (with dancers, dancing competitions, musicians playing, etc.). In that game, playing an instrument or performing a dance, were professions. And listening to, or dancing with such performers, also gave buffs that could be used in the game later on. If we wanted special kind of Star Wars-music we rented an in-game jukebox for the duration of the party. And if a city grew big enough it would be listed on the map with its own space shuttle. In our favorite mmorpg (yes, that is tESO) the "shuttle" would of course be a wayshrine: fast travel back and forth. Usually guild leaders would also be the founding mayors of those player cities, and recruiting new members often included a house deed to be placed within that city limit. That was a sound way of both making the guild and city grow. However, it was not required that a city contained members of a given guild. And the game also had the option of making votes for whom should be the next mayor. A nice political device, if the community wanted that touch of democracy to it.

I am not saying that ZeniMax Studios should incorporate all what Star Wars Galaxies had in terms of player housing. But they should take notes. So far all other mmorpgs I have played after that title have failed in getting anywhere near that level of quality when it comes to player housing. All. So far I have played: Star Wars Galaxies, World of Warcraft, Age of Conan: Hyberian Adventures, Star Wars: The Old Republic, The Elder Scrolls Online and Guild Wars 2. And of course: not all of these titles do have player housing. For one, The Elder Scrolls Online doesn't. But we should have it. The game is very suited for it. What about Skyrim? Was that way of player housing as good as what was found in Star Wars Galaxies? You are joking, right? Skyrim was not even close, in this respect. Houses in Skyrim felt like hotel rooms, in comparison. In the game mentioned you had homes. Your home. Skyrim never achieved that. Big, big quality gap.

Florial · August 2016

@ludvique Really enjoyed your post and you make some really good points. I so wished that I had stuck it out with SWG when it first launched. Just not a sci-fi fan and unfortunately we started having some unfortunate guild politics at the time. Played for a bit and left. I really regret that. From what I heard, there were so many great ideas in SWG and your post was a good read. Wanted to comment and give you a +1.

I've played quite a few games with player housing and unfortunately some of them left me feeling rather blah with regards to one of my most favorite aspects of an MMO. I think that some games have done quite well though. EQ2, Wildstar, Rift for example. Wildstar, even though instanced, was so creative in what players could do. Same with EQ2. I would spend hours visiting various houses and enjoy what talented and creative players could do.

I'm open minded but if housing were to be hook based systems like LOTRO or SWTOR (from what hubby tells me), I will be disappointed. Having player cities in ESO would be really neat. And let us build our house. Anyone remember Horizons? Spent many months designing and building my plot. A guildmate and I bought adjoining plots and were in the process of building a huge estate. I was so bummed when they started merging servers and the game started floundering.

Housing can be such a fun diversion and keep one invested in a game. Fingers crossed that Zen has some intriguing ideas for us coming out next year.

JamieAubrey · August 2016

Dunno about anywhere else but in Rawl'kha behind the outlaw refuse is a new building

STEVIL · August 2016

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

We need to organize an expedition. Let's find ALL of these locations and post here, maybe?

Yes!

I'm sad people were evicted to make room for us. Were they safely relocated? Or will I see them walking the streets?

They were murdered by all the new Dark Brotherhood initiates.

The neighbourhood has already gone downhill.

Well at least the houses may become cheaper because of it

let criminal element run wild to lower property and drive out residents to buy it all up and sell to richer clients... sounds like many movie plots.