ESO Plus Subscription Alternatives

POps75p

ZOS, consider getting rid of BIND ON PICK UP for all sub members. that would really make it worth while to sub

idk

Lol, just lol. This could be detrimental to Zos is funny as ****.

With the obvious small number of players upset about this Zos has no reason to change anything. Additionally, they are and will be looking at metrixs to see what affect these additions to ESO+ has on the subscription rates. Those numbers will have 100 times the affect any thread in these forums will have. Subs increase Zos will have confirmation they are right.

It's a business decision to increase sub rates. Buy to play is the best model for the player. We save money going that route. Subscription is the most favorable means for the company as it offers a good steady and reliable source of revenue. Both models together offer s larger pool for revenue.

Based on what I have seen in other business models, Zos will enjoy the success of their decisions.

TheDarkoil

I was about to cancel my subscription as I had enough crowns to purchase all the dlcs and then I logged on and saw the new crafting bag and have since spent all my crowns on costumes, pets and mounts and have continued with my sub. I don't mind paying as I love the game and as long as the developers are making new content I don't mind paying them.

idk

TheDarkoil wrote: »

I was about to cancel my subscription as I had enough crowns to purchase all the dlcs and then I logged on and saw the new crafting bag and have since spent all my crowns on costumes, pets and mounts and have continued with my sub. I don't mind paying as I love the game and as long as the developers are making new content I don't mind paying them.

I was about to do the same until I headed the crafting bag was coming to ESO+. I always thought the ESO+ perks were lack luster and buying the DLCs costs much less than sub. Now ESO+ is getting where is should have been and well worth it.

Lysette

Well, Jessica Folsom made it in another thread pretty clear again, that ZOS has no intention to make the exclusive perks of ESO+ available in any other form that with the current subscription model. Of course you can further discuss it, but it will change nothing - ZOS will not shoot into their own feet and alienate their subscribers, which now have for the first time perks, which are worth the subscription.

Lysette

TheDarkoil wrote: »

I was about to cancel my subscription as I had enough crowns to purchase all the dlcs and then I logged on and saw the new crafting bag and have since spent all my crowns on costumes, pets and mounts and have continued with my sub. I don't mind paying as I love the game and as long as the developers are making new content I don't mind paying them.

This - and with those costumes you will have now even more fun, when the new costume dyes will be available. This makes this investment into appearance even more valuable. I find it very chilling, to not have to decide, if I want to buy a DLC or not, I have access to all of them and can spend my subscription crowns on other things I like - not to talk about, that all incentives for DLC access are included - pets, personalities -, regardless if I will play the DLC content or not.

Another perk for ESO+, I could think of is instanced public dungeons - so that we can experience a dungeon, how it is meant to be played, with all mobs alive when we enter it, and not most of them dead, like it is currently at prime time. I would love that, doing a dungeon in a stealthy way, be the silent death, picking my victims - currently I cannot really play like this, because a bunch of people rush through the dungeon and kill all and everything they come across - I have often not even an idea, what kind of mobs are in a dungeon, because they are all dead and the quest item is just there for the taking, without any effort at all - this is not how I want to experience a dungeon.

Transairion

Lysette wrote: »

TheDarkoil wrote: »

I was about to cancel my subscription as I had enough crowns to purchase all the dlcs and then I logged on and saw the new crafting bag and have since spent all my crowns on costumes, pets and mounts and have continued with my sub. I don't mind paying as I love the game and as long as the developers are making new content I don't mind paying them.

This - and with those costumes you will have now even more fun, when the new costume dyes will be available. This makes this investment into appearance even more valuable. I find it very chilling, to not have to decide, if I want to buy a DLC or not, I have access to all of them and can spend my subscription crowns on other things I like - not to talk about, that all incentives for DLC access are included - pets, personalities -, regardless if I will play the DLC content or not.

Another perk for ESO+, I could think of is instanced public dungeons - so that we can experience a dungeon, how it is meant to be played, with all mobs alive when we enter it, and not most of them dead, like it is currently at prime time.

I won't lie, I think it's pretty amusing you think ESO+ have perks of any type is fine, but the type of perk you think is suitable is having an empty Public Dungeon instance all to yourself....

.... which, conveniently, because nobody else will be inside you can farm EXP/gold/mats/drops all you like until CP6000, and only subs will have that option because why not? That's just a Pay to Win feature.



Personally I don't get why Zenimax just doesn't offer features like Costume Dyeing (freely dyeing, not "Here's a single-use Red/Green Dye Stamp for 600 Crowns, go nuts" in the Crown Store outright as an unlock, like Any Race Any Alliance, Imperial Race and so on. At least then there's an alternative option to the commitment of paying a subscription.

Or you are telling me Zeni doesn't profit from selling stuff like 5000 Crown Bankers to non-subs?

Lysette

Transairion wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

TheDarkoil wrote: »

I was about to cancel my subscription as I had enough crowns to purchase all the dlcs and then I logged on and saw the new crafting bag and have since spent all my crowns on costumes, pets and mounts and have continued with my sub. I don't mind paying as I love the game and as long as the developers are making new content I don't mind paying them.

This - and with those costumes you will have now even more fun, when the new costume dyes will be available. This makes this investment into appearance even more valuable. I find it very chilling, to not have to decide, if I want to buy a DLC or not, I have access to all of them and can spend my subscription crowns on other things I like - not to talk about, that all incentives for DLC access are included - pets, personalities -, regardless if I will play the DLC content or not.

Another perk for ESO+, I could think of is instanced public dungeons - so that we can experience a dungeon, how it is meant to be played, with all mobs alive when we enter it, and not most of them dead, like it is currently at prime time.

I won't lie, I think it's pretty amusing you think ESO+ have perks of any type is fine, but the type of perk you think is suitable is having an empty Public Dungeon instance all to yourself....

.... which, conveniently, because nobody else will be inside you can farm EXP/gold/mats/drops all you like until CP6000, and only subs will have that option because why not? That's just a Pay to Win feature.



Personally I don't get why Zenimax just doesn't offer features like Costume Dyeing (freely dyeing, not "Here's a single-use Red/Green Dye Stamp for 600 Crowns, go nuts" in the Crown Store outright as an unlock, like Any Race Any Alliance, Imperial Race and so on. At least then there's an alternative option to the commitment of paying a subscription.

Or you are telling me Zeni doesn't profit from selling stuff like 5000 Crown Bankers to non-subs?

I am not the grinding type of player - I do a dungeon once with a character and that's it - but this only time, where I am doing it, I want to experience it in full - with all the mobs alive and where I can play like I want to play - stealthy, be the silent death. I cannot do that in the current model - it is no fun to do dungeons for me therefore. And this could be the perk - to get a public dungeon in a private instance, when I am doing it for the first time with a character - afterwards it can be public again - I will not do it again anyway.

TheDarkoil

Lysette wrote: »

TheDarkoil wrote: »

I was about to cancel my subscription as I had enough crowns to purchase all the dlcs and then I logged on and saw the new crafting bag and have since spent all my crowns on costumes, pets and mounts and have continued with my sub. I don't mind paying as I love the game and as long as the developers are making new content I don't mind paying them.

This - and with those costumes you will have now even more fun, when the new costume dyes will be available. This makes this investment into appearance even more valuable. I find it very chilling, to not have to decide, if I want to buy a DLC or not, I have access to all of them and can spend my subscription crowns on other things I like - not to talk about, that all incentives for DLC access are included - pets, personalities -, regardless if I will play the DLC content or not.

Another perk for ESO+, I could think of is instanced public dungeons - so that we can experience a dungeon, how it is meant to be played, with all mobs alive when we enter it, and not most of them dead, like it is currently at prime time. I would love that, doing a dungeon in a stealthy way, be the silent death, picking my victims - currently I cannot really play like this, because a bunch of people rush through the dungeon and kill all and everything they come across - I have often not even an idea, what kind of mobs are in a dungeon, because they are all dead and the quest item is just there for the taking, without any effort at all - this is not how I want to experience a dungeon.

Oh I have a lot of fun in my costumes ! My muscle bound high elf is now dressed in a pink sexy two piece, what can I say, I'm a cross dressing mage

Lysette

TheDarkoil wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

TheDarkoil wrote: »

I was about to cancel my subscription as I had enough crowns to purchase all the dlcs and then I logged on and saw the new crafting bag and have since spent all my crowns on costumes, pets and mounts and have continued with my sub. I don't mind paying as I love the game and as long as the developers are making new content I don't mind paying them.

This - and with those costumes you will have now even more fun, when the new costume dyes will be available. This makes this investment into appearance even more valuable. I find it very chilling, to not have to decide, if I want to buy a DLC or not, I have access to all of them and can spend my subscription crowns on other things I like - not to talk about, that all incentives for DLC access are included - pets, personalities -, regardless if I will play the DLC content or not.

Another perk for ESO+, I could think of is instanced public dungeons - so that we can experience a dungeon, how it is meant to be played, with all mobs alive when we enter it, and not most of them dead, like it is currently at prime time. I would love that, doing a dungeon in a stealthy way, be the silent death, picking my victims - currently I cannot really play like this, because a bunch of people rush through the dungeon and kill all and everything they come across - I have often not even an idea, what kind of mobs are in a dungeon, because they are all dead and the quest item is just there for the taking, without any effort at all - this is not how I want to experience a dungeon.

Oh I have a lot of fun in my costumes ! My muscle bound high elf is now dressed in a pink sexy two piece, what can I say, I'm a cross dressing mage

Yeah, why not, I am wearing some male outfits as well, but I would like them in a different color, so I am waiting for August. I could even see one of my male characters wearing the bosmer grahtwood climber outfit, because I think that a short skirt like that does not look bad on a male character. Is that weird?- I don't think so, it is just fashion and fashion is meant to be fun.

Brrrofski

It's £9 a month. That's a big lunch one day. Either pay it or not. Nobody cares. People are genuinely broke poor and people come on here crying about a crafting bag.

TheDarkoil

Lysette wrote: »

TheDarkoil wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

TheDarkoil wrote: »

I was about to cancel my subscription as I had enough crowns to purchase all the dlcs and then I logged on and saw the new crafting bag and have since spent all my crowns on costumes, pets and mounts and have continued with my sub. I don't mind paying as I love the game and as long as the developers are making new content I don't mind paying them.

This - and with those costumes you will have now even more fun, when the new costume dyes will be available. This makes this investment into appearance even more valuable. I find it very chilling, to not have to decide, if I want to buy a DLC or not, I have access to all of them and can spend my subscription crowns on other things I like - not to talk about, that all incentives for DLC access are included - pets, personalities -, regardless if I will play the DLC content or not.

Another perk for ESO+, I could think of is instanced public dungeons - so that we can experience a dungeon, how it is meant to be played, with all mobs alive when we enter it, and not most of them dead, like it is currently at prime time. I would love that, doing a dungeon in a stealthy way, be the silent death, picking my victims - currently I cannot really play like this, because a bunch of people rush through the dungeon and kill all and everything they come across - I have often not even an idea, what kind of mobs are in a dungeon, because they are all dead and the quest item is just there for the taking, without any effort at all - this is not how I want to experience a dungeon.

Oh I have a lot of fun in my costumes ! My muscle bound high elf is now dressed in a pink sexy two piece, what can I say, I'm a cross dressing mage

Yeah, why not, I am wearing some male outfits as well, but I would like them in a different color, so I am waiting for August. I could even see one of my male characters wearing the bosmer grahtwood climber outfit, because I think that a short skirt like that does not look bad on a male character. Is that weird?- I don't think so, it is just fashion and fashion is meant to be fun.

It's a good icebreaker with random groups as they usually see me then make a comment, we have a laugh about it then get on with the dungeon.

Lysette

Brrrofski wrote: »

It's £9 a month. That's a big lunch one day. Either pay it or not. Nobody cares. People are genuinely broke poor and people come on here crying about a crafting bag.

or just a a burger, fries and a soft drink - if you are in London - it is really not much at all.

Lysette

TheDarkoil wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

TheDarkoil wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

TheDarkoil wrote: »

I was about to cancel my subscription as I had enough crowns to purchase all the dlcs and then I logged on and saw the new crafting bag and have since spent all my crowns on costumes, pets and mounts and have continued with my sub. I don't mind paying as I love the game and as long as the developers are making new content I don't mind paying them.

This - and with those costumes you will have now even more fun, when the new costume dyes will be available. This makes this investment into appearance even more valuable. I find it very chilling, to not have to decide, if I want to buy a DLC or not, I have access to all of them and can spend my subscription crowns on other things I like - not to talk about, that all incentives for DLC access are included - pets, personalities -, regardless if I will play the DLC content or not.

Another perk for ESO+, I could think of is instanced public dungeons - so that we can experience a dungeon, how it is meant to be played, with all mobs alive when we enter it, and not most of them dead, like it is currently at prime time. I would love that, doing a dungeon in a stealthy way, be the silent death, picking my victims - currently I cannot really play like this, because a bunch of people rush through the dungeon and kill all and everything they come across - I have often not even an idea, what kind of mobs are in a dungeon, because they are all dead and the quest item is just there for the taking, without any effort at all - this is not how I want to experience a dungeon.

Oh I have a lot of fun in my costumes ! My muscle bound high elf is now dressed in a pink sexy two piece, what can I say, I'm a cross dressing mage

Yeah, why not, I am wearing some male outfits as well, but I would like them in a different color, so I am waiting for August. I could even see one of my male characters wearing the bosmer grahtwood climber outfit, because I think that a short skirt like that does not look bad on a male character. Is that weird?- I don't think so, it is just fashion and fashion is meant to be fun.

It's a good icebreaker with random groups as they usually see me then make a comment, we have a laugh about it then get on with the dungeon.

Well, shoulder-free dresses look a bit weird on males, that is true, but otherwise ... think of the arabs - their tradtional male clothes are not that different from dresses - and no one finds that weird there.

DorianDragonRaze

I'd buy just the Crafting bag for $4.99/month and continue to buy DLC for crowns.