Summoning would be so fun and useful if it was buffed.

Special_Bradley

Ever wanted to try a full Sommoning build? I sure have as a Sorcerer with a lot of experience, for PvE it was ok but for PvP it was pointless.

My build contained The Maw of Infernal Set, Summon Storm Atronach and its Morths, Summon Unstable Familiar and its Morths and Summon Winged Twilight and its Morths.

The problems I faced:
1) Not enough slots for other spells - Having Unstable Familiar and its Morths with Winged Twilight and its Morths toggled.
2) Summon Storm Atronach and its Morths - Nothing bad at all
3) Summon Unstable Familiar and its Morths - Clannfear is fine, but Volatile Familiar isn't great on health or damage.
4) Summon Winged Twilight and its Morths - Again the damage and health is just not good enough.
5) Maw of the Infernal Monster Set - Only lasts 15 Seconds and its health is still not high enough (31k) in Cyrodill.

Please any one can vote since players who aren't Sorcerers face Summoning builds in the future (Hopefully).

Natas013

Should ZOS look more into this and are you (anyone) interested in trying a Summoning build?

I'll be interested in a summoning build when they mimic summoner builds from previous TES games and not summoner builds from other MMOs.

Dracane

Maw of the infernal is not usefull, not even for summoners.

If you want my detailed explaination on Summoning, see this thread which receive pure ignorance so far
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/273792/sorcerer-pets-unfixed-bugs-and-problems#latest

There you can see all these problems.

Special_Bradley

Should ZOS look more into this and are you (anyone) interested in trying a Summoning build?

I will check out your Thread out Dracane

STEVIL

Should ZOS look more into this and are you (anyone) interested in trying a Summoning build?

My thoughts about summoning in simplified form would be this.
Should never be the case that ignoring pets is painless.
Pets should add more group utility.
Targetted damage is bad direction since difficult to control targets.

So my general appoach would be:
Start with existing DB stats.
Add a minor group buff to each base pet. Twlights might get minor ward or whatever name is for damage reduction like say circle protection. Clan-familiar get minor berserk damage upgrade.
Other options available but make it a problem to leave them around.
Change the on-click damage attack twilight option to a hurricane including the beefed resists for the twilight. This makes both on-click offenses AOE.

Lotsa other options including cc effects.

Rohamad_Ali

One answer is a question . I can't answer with a question .

Minalan

Not interested.

I'd rather they leave it alone. The second Wrobel buffs pets even a little bit, he'll think that Magicka sorcs are perfectly fine.

Baconlad

Should ZOS look more into this and are you (anyone) interested in trying a Summoning build?

I'll tell yas... A solo togglemancer is a *** to kill as a solo magic templar. This guy I fought used his pets as a kind of wall. I could not target him cause his *** pets kept getting in front of him, and my sweeps hardly applied the extra damage to him but rather his pets...good stuff, but a togglemancer doesn't really seem to have any thing good to bring to the table in large groups. Sorc are great, but summoner build doesn't have much. Maybe the volitile familiars can be a non permanant summon that sommuns boat loads of imps that run around exploding on targets