Craglorn needs improvement

Morphine

Since we get more and more content population in Craglorn is much lower so its really hard to find appropriate group for doing main story there. You need 3 or 4 players to finish some quests but you cannot play with anyone. You must find players who are on same quest in the line as you are and that can take for ages. Can we do something to remove such limitations so anyone can help anyone? Maybe bring more end game players to zone by scaling the resources there? Making 50/50 chances to get mats of zone level or your crafting level?

MattT1988

I don't mind the old V14 mats, seeing as writs still require them, I like farming Craglorn for them. I can see your logic though. I'm not sure either way on that one.

Here are some of my ideas:

* Remove the group requirement for main story quests.
* Increase Nirncrux drop rates or have alternative ways to acquire it. The Iron Orc Nirncrux mines could be used here.

Morphine

I dont have problem with group requirement, its a zone for groups and its fine. But what i dont like is need for people who are on same quest stage as you are. So players without quest or players who already finished that quest cannot help you. They should simply allow players to help another players without having a same quest.

Lord_Draevan

I was there a few days ago in prime time (EP, NA server). Ran around getting all the locations for Pathfinder achievement... saw 3 people. The zone is pretty much dead :P

helediron

You DO NOT need to be at same quest step any more. Anybody can help with the switches and platforms. I have tested at least Kardala and Missing Guardian with both completely Crag noob and with one who has done it all.

Lord_Draevan

MattT1988 wrote: »

* Remove the group requirement for main story quests.

I wouldn't mind that. Keep it for Trials and Delves though.

redspecter23

I'd be fine with removing the artificial locks based on group size. The content should be hard enough that you want to bring assistance with you without having a mechanic requiring you to do so. I look at the way the Wrothgar world bosses are designed. People bring groups to those bosses to finish them. They aren't required to and I'm sure there are skilled players that can solo them but it will always be easier to bring a group if you can. However, you are in no way forced to.

MattT1988

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

MattT1988 wrote: »

* Remove the group requirement for main story quests.

I wouldn't mind that. Keep it for Trials and Delves though.

Yeah thats what I was getting at, maybe except the delves that are associated with the main story.

Espionage-

I was waiting for two hours at the Shada's Tear way shrine, hoping people would turn up, but no. Luckily RNG was kind to me and I found two fortified nirncrux near where the quest starts.
Besides the point, I have four more quests in Craglorn and it looks less and less likely they'll be completed .

altemriel

Morphine wrote: »

I dont have problem with group requirement, its a zone for groups and its fine. But what i dont like is need for people who are on same quest stage as you are. So players without quest or players who already finished that quest cannot help you. They should simply allow players to help another players without having a same quest.

wait, really? that is not good. they should do it like the Undaunted Pledges, that you can be at any stage of the quest with anyone in the group and everyone proceeds trough the quest on their own pledge, together with the group.

altemriel

craglorn definitelly should be group leader scalled and group-size scalled too in the same time.

Morphine

So we all agree on that one. Hopefully Zenimax understands the issue

xlWASP

I just grabbed all my skyshards in Craglorn today. Saw ONE other person the entire time.

So many times I was thinking to myself, "this zone could and should still be viable." But with cp140 mats and drops that range all the way down to cp110 -- this makes Craglorn a waste of time. Only good for skyshards and us PvE completionists.

Craglorn is all the PvE content I have left. After it I'll farm vMA. I have reason to return to Orsinium, Gold Coast and Hew's Bane, but not Craglorn. Craglorn content needs to be scaled to match that of other DLC. ESPECIALLY since it's an entire zone based on grouping!

TL;DL:
Trash loot. Weak mobs. No experience farming. Ghost-town zone. Cp140 mats. Only worthy for it's Skyshards.

Pity really. I think Craglorn could still be made viable. It just needs a little updating.

Morphine

Few of my guild mates told me that Zenimax will upscale the Craglorn to current level cap. Don't know when but i am really happy with such news

Enodoc

altemriel wrote: »

Morphine wrote: »

I dont have problem with group requirement, its a zone for groups and its fine. But what i dont like is need for people who are on same quest stage as you are. So players without quest or players who already finished that quest cannot help you. They should simply allow players to help another players without having a same quest.

wait, really? that is not good. they should do it like the Undaunted Pledges, that you can be at any stage of the quest with anyone in the group and everyone proceeds trough the quest on their own pledge, together with the group.

You can be on any stage of the quest, or not on the quest at all. It's not true that you need people on exactly the same quest stage as you are (this requirement was removed a month or two after Craglorn was released).

JHawk

Morphine wrote: »

Few of my guild mates told me that Zenimax will upscale the Craglorn to current level cap. Don't know when but i am really happy with such news

I wonder if this will be the case once One Tamriel hits and wider range of scaling is added across the board. Would be nice if this was a fix for scaling/group sizing for Craglorn as the ETA for One Tamriel isn't that far off.

Or is this something that wouldn't be effected by those changes for some reason?

Rhazmuz

We need Craglorn to be scaled like the DLC zones, and update the sets which drop from the delves/dungeons to VR160.

That could maybe breath some life into the zone, which is actually quite fun on its own premise.

Lord_Draevan

All anyone does is grind Nirncrux and Trials in Craglorn now (On the EP-NA-PC side anyways). I feel bad for whoever at ZOS designed the quests for Craglorn... must suck having gone through all that work and no one does them anymore