Mighty Chudan Set, why Major Ward/Resolve as 2 piece?

Kr3do

Why adding a undaunted set that gives buffs a 2 piece bonus, every class has acces to.
Major Ward/Resolve:
Dragon Knight: Spiked Armor (morphs)

Sorcerer: Lightning Form (morphs)

Nightblade: Shadow Barrier

Templar: Rune Focus (morphs)

Heavy Armor: Immovable (morphs)

That Set seems to be even more useless than Bogdan.

UltimaJoe777

Kr3do wrote: »

Why adding a undaunted set that gives buffs a 2 piece bonus, every class has acces to.
Major Ward/Resolve:
Dragon Knight: Spiked Armor (morphs)

Sorcerer: Lightning Form (morphs)

Nightblade: Shadow Barrier

Templar: Rune Focus (morphs)

Heavy Armor: Immovable (morphs)

That Set seems to be even more useless than Bogdan.

Don't forget Balance. It grants it for 4 seconds now too.

Tryxus

Mix it up with Potentates? For reduced Ulti Cost

Averya_Teira

Kr3do wrote: »

Why adding a undaunted set that gives buffs a 2 piece bonus, every class has acces to.
Major Ward/Resolve:
Dragon Knight: Spiked Armor (morphs)

Sorcerer: Lightning Form (morphs)

Nightblade: Shadow Barrier

Templar: Rune Focus (morphs)

Heavy Armor: Immovable (morphs)

That Set seems to be even more useless than Bogdan.

So you get a skill slot to use something else ? More utility, or CC or DPS. I personally think it's a good set...

Blevil

Still a good set although I would have personally preferred a set with a 1set bonus of mag recovery considering there aren't any.

Birdovic

Instead of whining, you could think about some nice new Build Options. It basically frees a slot you used for buffs.
And im sure this is not the only Monster Set we will receive.

hrothbern

Kr3do wrote: »

Why adding a undaunted set that gives buffs a 2 piece bonus, every class has acces to.
Major Ward/Resolve:
Dragon Knight: Spiked Armor (morphs)

Sorcerer: Lightning Form (morphs)

Nightblade: Shadow Barrier

Templar: Rune Focus (morphs)

Heavy Armor: Immovable (morphs)

That Set seems to be even more useless than Bogdan.

For a DPS or Healer build: yes.
But there are enough builds that will be happy with the 1-item and the 2-items.

It saves you a slot on your ability bar.
And it saves you a click in your rotation + the cost of the ability.

For example Shadow Barrier gives 4 sec + 1 second per piece of HA for 9 seconds.
The "cost" are therefore 10% of your Magicka resource sustain and 17% of all your slots in one bar.

That is a lot for a NB Tank that has to block a lot and is always short in Magicka to get by SA Stamina back to block.

Ep1kMalware

I thought about this. they are releasing a cp cap increase, and figuring most peop.e alreadt have points into max damage, I think they're trying to balance out that more people will be putting points into crit damage.

would help a bit in pvp yeah?

Personofsecrets

hrothbern wrote: »

Kr3do wrote: »

Why adding a undaunted set that gives buffs a 2 piece bonus, every class has acces to.
Major Ward/Resolve:
Dragon Knight: Spiked Armor (morphs)

Sorcerer: Lightning Form (morphs)

Nightblade: Shadow Barrier

Templar: Rune Focus (morphs)

Heavy Armor: Immovable (morphs)

That Set seems to be even more useless than Bogdan.

For a DPS or Healer build: yes.
But there are enough builds that will be happy with the 1-item and the 2-items.

It saves you a slot on your ability bar.
And it saves you a click in your rotation + the cost of the ability.

For example Shadow Barrier gives 4 sec + 1 second per piece of HA for 9 seconds.
The "cost" are therefore 10% of your Magicka resource sustain and 17% of all your slots in one bar.

That is a lot for a NB Tank that has to block a lot and is always short in Magicka to get by SA Stamina back to block.

Let's not forget that at least the skills which grant resolve and ward at least also are giving some other pretty decent passive effects.

OrphanHelgen

you dont need to buff yourself this way, room for more skills

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

hrothbern wrote: »

Kr3do wrote: »

Why adding a undaunted set that gives buffs a 2 piece bonus, every class has acces to.
Major Ward/Resolve:
Dragon Knight: Spiked Armor (morphs)

Sorcerer: Lightning Form (morphs)

Nightblade: Shadow Barrier

Templar: Rune Focus (morphs)

Heavy Armor: Immovable (morphs)

That Set seems to be even more useless than Bogdan.

For a DPS or Healer build: yes.
But there are enough builds that will be happy with the 1-item and the 2-items.

It saves you a slot on your ability bar.
And it saves you a click in your rotation + the cost of the ability.

For example Shadow Barrier gives 4 sec + 1 second per piece of HA for 9 seconds.
The "cost" are therefore 10% of your Magicka resource sustain and 17% of all your slots in one bar.

That is a lot for a NB Tank that has to block a lot and is always short in Magicka to get by SA Stamina back to block.

I see what you're saying here but Shadow Barrier is far better you get the side effects of the power, 5120 armor pen with SA, 8% damage reduction with Dark Cloak or damaging/healing speed buff. Not to mention you get 3% more health for the Shadow power being on your bar.

When looking at slots you have to account for the loss passives as well. The set is a waste. Any Tank worth their space in a group has those buffs up 24/7 and are at the damage cap.

Xsorus

Nightblades don't need it; nor stam sorcs for sure
but it can get some use out of StamDk's; both morphs for us are generally *** (the damage shield is meh same with the dot) and the unlike Sorcs and NBs that buff really isn't tied to anything useful...

Vaoh

I think it's a cool set, and like how they are adding ways outside of skills themselves to gain these buffs

This set would be nicer if the 2-piece also gave a Max Health bonus too.

Vinther

From PvP point of view, Blood Spawn still beats it with even better and stackable resists + extra ulti regeneration, so this set is useless.

Dagoth_Rac

It is not really a tank set, at least it won't be used by dedicated tanks. It will be used by DPS or Healers who want to be tankier with a minimum of gear devoted to being tanky. Getting that much mitigation with only 2 pieces of gear, and it could even be 2 pieces of squishy light armor, could lead to interesting hybrid DPS/Tank or Healer/Tank builds.

acw37162

Useless = Never having to buff to be at max resistances = 1 or 2 more loadout spots = huh

mistermutiny89

Pretty useless for my sap tank.

He uses 7 heavy, engine guardian, kagrenacs, baharas five piece and still hits resistance cap, because he has to use refreshing path and mirage in his rotation anyway.

#bretonlife

This set looks like something a medium armour tank may try out with armour master..

WillhelmBlack

Like it!

MyNameIsElias

maybe this will prevent people from toasting my light armor healer

DRXHarbinger

It's awesome. It saves you so much in resources from having to cast spiked armour etc, this plus Hist bark and glorious defender will be quite good, tanky and dodgy at the same time with out having to even hit shuffle or armour buff.

Xsorus

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

It's awesome. It saves you so much in resources from having to cast spiked armour etc, this plus Hist bark and glorious defender will be quite good, tanky and dodgy at the same time with out having to even hit shuffle or armour buff.

Heh; this set plus armor master on a medium armor set

Pretty sure its capped or close to it...

Teridaxus

Xsorus wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

It's awesome. It saves you so much in resources from having to cast spiked armour etc, this plus Hist bark and glorious defender will be quite good, tanky and dodgy at the same time with out having to even hit shuffle or armour buff.

Heh; this set plus armor master on a medium armor set

Pretty sure its capped or close to it...

Because medium armour is not used enough already?

Cinbri

Averya_Teira wrote: »

Kr3do wrote: »

Why adding a undaunted set that gives buffs a 2 piece bonus, every class has acces to.
Major Ward/Resolve:
Dragon Knight: Spiked Armor (morphs)

Sorcerer: Lightning Form (morphs)

Nightblade: Shadow Barrier

Templar: Rune Focus (morphs)

Heavy Armor: Immovable (morphs)

That Set seems to be even more useless than Bogdan.

So you get a skill slot to use something else ? More utility, or CC or DPS. I personally think it's a good set...

Skills that grant major buffs also grant big amount of utility. For example templars use Channeled Focus not to get major buffs but to get magicka returns, even if it didnt grant major buffs I would still use Focus.

Birdovic

Cinbri wrote: »

Averya_Teira wrote: »

Kr3do wrote: »

Why adding a undaunted set that gives buffs a 2 piece bonus, every class has acces to.
Major Ward/Resolve:
Dragon Knight: Spiked Armor (morphs)

Sorcerer: Lightning Form (morphs)

Nightblade: Shadow Barrier

Templar: Rune Focus (morphs)

Heavy Armor: Immovable (morphs)

That Set seems to be even more useless than Bogdan.

So you get a skill slot to use something else ? More utility, or CC or DPS. I personally think it's a good set...

Skills that grant major buffs also grant big amount of utility. For example templars use Channeled Focus not to get major buffs but to get magicka returns, even if didnt grant major buffs I would still use it, and same for rest of classes.

That's the only concern I see with this set.
You may be able to replace Major Armor/Spellres buffs, but then Utility is lost too.

It's a concern because aforementioned utility is usually the reason an ability is slotted, and Armor Buffs a nice bonus.

RedFireDisco

My sap tank has 100% uptime on major war and resolve. Pass!

Kirameku

Xsorus wrote: »

Heh; this set plus armor master on a medium armor set

Pretty sure its capped or close to it...

They will not stuck