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So let me get this straight... [Possible DB Spoilers]
Molag_Crow
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To do the last story quest in the Dark Brotherhood, I have to progress like half way through 8 and all through 9, just to reach skill line 10 for the story quest by repeatedly spamming contracts?
Edited by Molag_Crow on June 24, 2016 3:07PM
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Pathfindr✭✭✭Yes"Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies."
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✭No, you do not need to get to skill line 10 to finish the story. 8 is enough to start the last quest "Filling the void"
Have any of you actually finished it?
Oh! And do not skip the dialogue. You have only yourself to blame if you get bored.Edited by Vipstaakki on June 24, 2016 10:27AM6
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✭Molag_Crow wrote: »
Got bored after spamming contracts till lvl 5 then went nope. Not doing this no more. Havent entered gold coast since lol.(2)V16 Dk- stam dps/stam tank/mag dps
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chuck-18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I gotta say that I'm a bit unimpressed with both DLCs being massive grind-fests.The Exclusionary Mandates of Maruhkite Selection: All Are Equal
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✭✭Yeah... it would have been better if we could have earned dark brotherhood skill line XP in other ways, like using the blade of woe on citizens in general for a small amount of progression, or different kind of dailies that don't just involve traveling across Tamriel, like even if it's cleaning the toilets in the sanctuary (kidding) or.. something!--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
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Cronopoly✭✭✭✭✭Uh this kills it for me. Thanks for letting me know. I only did about 4 contracts and it was getting old.... I'm sure I'll find something else to do lol4 -
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✭✭jwilkins66ub17_ESO wrote: »Uh this kills it for me. Thanks for letting me know. I only did about 4 contracts and it was getting old.... I'm sure I'll find something else to do lol
I guess, if you're not in a rush, you could just do a contract as a daily thing along with the black sacrament, instead of using all of your energy on just repeatedly spamming contracts. That's what I've decided to do anyway haha--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
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✭✭I got to get to skill line 10 to finish the story?! Oooooooohhhhhhhhh
Yeah it seems so. I'm 70% away from 10 and my last story quest was at 8. At least the one at 8 was like, the most rewarding DB quest, I think.
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Pathfindr✭✭✭Even after finishing the main quest there are more levels to get. My next passive upgrade unlocks at 11, but as much as I want it I have 11 more chars to contract spam to level 10 and the title. I went back to Wrothgar for now... so much more to do there. Contracts can wait.
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✭✭Even after finishing the main quest there are more levels to get. My next passive upgrade unlocks at 11, but as much as I want it I have 11 more chars to contract spam to level 10 and the title. I went back to Wrothgar for now... so much more to do there. Contracts can wait.
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✭✭✭Vipstaakki wrote: »No, you do not need to get to skill line 10 to finish the story. 8 is enough to start the last quest "Filling the void"
Have any of you actually finished it?
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Pathfindr✭✭✭Molag_Crow wrote: »HOW can you do that on 11 different characters? wow.... dedication.
Only takes like 7 hours per char, so it's really just a grind. But I won't do it with a lvl 10 again... All contracts being limited to my unlocked areas had me shuttling between Gold Coast and Auridon, killing the same 4-5 npc again and again and again. Some times even the same person 2-3 times in a row.Edited by Pathfindr on June 24, 2016 10:32AM"Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies."
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✭✭Vipstaakki wrote: »No, you do not need to get to skill line 10 to finish the story. 8 is enough to start the last quest "Filling the void"
Have any of you actually finished it?
Oh! And do not skip the dialogue. You have only yourself to blame if you get bored.
Actually, you're right... I just found my last quest and it was a gold coast one, it weren't the actual DB quest line but it was related, and it counted as the 17th "story quest completed" strangely enough. It was from Naryru Virian in Kvacth to the far, top left near the castle.
So skill 8 is definitely the last actual DB story quest. @Cazzy @jwilkins66ub17_ESOEdited by Molag_Crow on June 24, 2016 10:57AM--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
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✭✭✭Don't the Black Sacraments count towards XP for the DB as well?
I know Heists did for TG so I'd imagine Black Sacraments count too.Argonian forever0 -
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✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »Don't the Black Sacraments count towards XP for the DB as well?
I know Heists did for TG so I'd imagine Black Sacraments count too.
I think they do, but I don't know for sure.... they feel like they do though because a level feels much faster when I do one (and fail to get a green box...)--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
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✭I cant see why they dont untie the main quest from the skill line. Like I just want to experience the story. Not spend days randomly killing people....(2)V16 Dk- stam dps/stam tank/mag dps
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Braddec✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »Don't the Black Sacraments count towards XP for the DB as well?
I know Heists did for TG so I'd imagine Black Sacraments count too.
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✭Perhaps it's just me, but I don't mind grinding up skill requirements. It reminds me of Morrowind or Daggerfall.
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Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
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ContraTempo✭✭✭✭chuck-18_ESO wrote: »I gotta say that I'm a bit unimpressed with both DLCs being massive grind-fests.
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In Morrowind I could level up the required skills by doing anything I wanted: quests, exploration... In ESO the encouraged playstyle includes 172746 loading screens and a quick, easy kill. It's just so boring. There's nothing to do in Gold Coast, I exhausted my capacity for boss farming in Abah's Landing, I'm not going to do it all over again. I doubt I'm going to even attempt the DB questline with any other character. I kind of feel like I wasted my money again. I expect to enjoy the dungeon pack much more because, while small, it will require some thought and skill to master and will play differently with different characters.BlackSparrow wrote: »Perhaps it's just me, but I don't mind grinding up skill requirements. It reminds me of Morrowind or Daggerfall.
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rootimus✭✭✭✭✭I cant see why they dont untie the main quest from the skill line. Like I just want to experience the story. Not spend days randomly killing people....
Or even better, make it so that you only need to do the story to max the skill line out. Either way, the DB and TG grinding is stupid so typical of ZOS.Even on the internet, clear communication is important; it can be the difference between "helping your Uncle Jack off a horse" and "helping your uncle jack off a horse"; the difference between "knowing your s***" and "knowing you're s***".
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✭✭✭✭✭It is the same with Thieves Guild . Although final reward from thieves guild is pretty nice .1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I cant see why they dont untie the main quest from the skill line. Like I just want to experience the story. Not spend days randomly killing people....
It is a way to make us take longer to finish the main story, which is actually super short. That's why they did it with TG and DB. Orsinium didn't need any gimmicks to make it last longer because it had much more to do.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭Molag_Crow wrote: »Yeah... it would have been better if we could have earned dark brotherhood skill line XP in other ways, like using the blade of woe on citizens in general for a small amount of progression, or different kind of dailies that don't just involve traveling across Tamriel, like even if it's cleaning the toilets in the sanctuary (kidding) or.. something!
see I like doing the contracts(only had DB a week so far) because it sends you everywhere and it challenges me to be a ninja(as a Templar healer it makes it more challenging) and waiting for the right time to strike. Plus all the loot that can be had from the killings(if you play like me stalking every npc in my path to take them out so no witnesses) that it makes up for any bounty I will acquire. That and if I have to travel any I can collect more mats for my crafting bags(since I never kept much especially provisioning mats because had too much in my bank
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✭✭✭Similar to how it worked in TG except... in Tg the daily delves and bosses advanced the skill line too.
in Db the bounty board delves dont.
Then again, In DB, the bounty board delves give set pieces.
So, trade-off.
Finished main Db at 8. now gotta do the slog toward 10 and last quests.
FWIW, really wish the Sithis set were more impressive.Edited by STEVIL on June 24, 2016 4:06PMProudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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✭✭Lightninvash wrote: »Molag_Crow wrote: »Yeah... it would have been better if we could have earned dark brotherhood skill line XP in other ways, like using the blade of woe on citizens in general for a small amount of progression, or different kind of dailies that don't just involve traveling across Tamriel, like even if it's cleaning the toilets in the sanctuary (kidding) or.. something!
see I like doing the contracts(only had DB a week so far) because it sends you everywhere and it challenges me to be a ninja(as a Templar healer it makes it more challenging) and waiting for the right time to strike. Plus all the loot that can be had from the killings(if you play like me stalking every npc in my path to take them out so no witnesses) that it makes up for any bounty I will acquire. That and if I have to travel any I can collect more mats for my crafting bags(since I never kept much especially provisioning mats because had too much in my bank)
Oh come to think of it, you're right, it's not that bad.. Templar here too, I get caught so often
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✭✭✭chuck-18_ESO wrote: »I gotta say that I'm a bit unimpressed with both DLCs being massive grind-fests.
I never felt like I was grinding in TG. There are a lot of story threads. I did feel like DB was grindy.1