Pvp. Has it been getting toxic lately?

Gamerscape2007

I ask this because I feel discouraged about joining a pvp guild, since I got kicked out of a guild without a reason why. Actually, before I even join the guild. I try to join a fight, there is either someone calling someone an idiots for doing something wrong Hearing someone on twitch calling someone a 'Scrub.'Or 'Trash players.' Like they use it as a Insult. Even one player disrespect the other player by tbaging or whatever they do. result, I struggle to even pvp anymore. I know I sound like a "Baby." complaining about this, but all these toxicity is getting to me. I feel like no matter what I do, I'm always going to be this "Sucky." Player who can't do crap. What do you guys think, is there too much toxicity?

UltimaJoe777

"Lately"? lol It's been this way since day 1.

Tryxus

It has been toxic lately

I'm a NB: PvP is always toxic for me

WanderingJarlPuncher

It has been toxic lately

pvp was Junk since day one and only has gotten worst with imperical city

Worstluck

Always toxic; it will never change.

nine9six

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

"Lately"? lol It's been this way since day 1.

This.

DocFrost72

It has been toxic lately

All the proof in the world was given with cheatgate. The community doesn't care about cheating (or at least, a clearly visible portion). Even now there are Malubeth hordes, and before that it was prox > soul tether VD.

Toxic is fitting. Cheese and cheats over fun isn't exactly encouraging.

Gamerscape2007

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

"Lately"? lol It's been this way since day 1.

More then usual I mean.

Roechacca

Is a frogs butt water tight? Does Christopher Walken need more cowbell?

AmberLaTerra

No, it hasn't.

PVP Has been toxic since the first ever game it existed in and will be until the end of time thanks to their always being a loser and those losers often being sore losers.

Death, Taxes, Toxic PVP, things that are 100% to happen in life.

Edit: Either I read this wrong or I voted wrong. I am saying PVP is toxic, just it being toxic is not a new thing, and I read yes as saying it being toxic being a new thing.

Preyfar

It has been toxic lately

PVP has always been pretty toxic. The moment you have a competitive community going head to head...

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

It has been toxic lately

Here I am in IC minding my own business and boom I get killed by a zerg of EP. I don't even fight back anymore even during a 1v1.

Egonieser

It has been toxic lately

This has been the case more or less in any semi-competitive multiplayer game. If you think this is toxic, I dare you to try League of Legends... Oh dear, you've seen nothing yet xD

Kammakazi

It has been toxic lately

Anything that involves player versus player involvement is also toxic and cancerous.

Let's run down a list of things that the PvP community has ruined for everybody.

1. Block stamina regeneration
2. Damage shield duration
3. Certain skills completely changed and useless
4. Selling Monster Helmets/Shoulders because kids are too lazy to play a dungeon that's part of the game

IrishGirlGamer

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Here I am in IC minding my own business and boom I get killed by a zerg of EP. I don't even fight back anymore even during a 1v1.

Wow, and I remember when AD was the zerg in IC. I couldn't make it out the sewers without getting ganked.

And I always fight back. Even if I know I'm going to die. I always, always, always fight back.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

It has been toxic lately

Kammakazi wrote: »

Anything that involves player versus player involvement is also toxic and cancerous.

Let's run down a list of things that the PvP community has ruined for everybody.

1. Block stamina regeneration
2. Damage shield duration
3. Certain skills completely changed and useless
4. Selling Monster Helmets/Shoulders because kids are too lazy to play a dungeon that's part of the game

Exactly. You are 100% correct

Grao

It has been toxic lately

PvP always leads to some toxicity, lately it is worse with the ridiculous number of exploits, cheat engines, spies that you can't punish in any way other than by shaming, but even that is stupidly against the TOS. Couple all that with Zenimax never properly responding to this abuses, leading to players losing any trust in the company and yes... PvP is getting more toxic.

Makkir

Preyfar wrote: »

PVP has always been pretty toxic. The moment you have a competitive community going head to head...

No, it's the moment you have a bunch of competitive 22 yr olds who were never spanked as kids

MaxwellC

No, it hasn't.

Nah it's the usual; guess I'm just use to it.

GreenSoup2HoT

No, it hasn't.

Don't play with these types of players. If anyone in my group justifys why they died or complains i dont play with them. I play this game to have fun, not get a headache.

jcasini222ub17_ESO

Damn Im glad Im 28 and was spanked as a kid, dodged a close bullet there.

AmberLaTerra

No, it hasn't.

The sad thing is it is just going to grow more and more toxic as more players who are from the everyone wins and everyone gets a trophy generation join up. All that does is teach that you can be a toxic person and all about yourself, be rude, nasty, cheat, and do whatever else you want and still win and get a trophy for it. Just think how much more toxic PVP will be in a couple years if you think it is bad now when that spoiled rotten bunch joins up.

Lightninvash

No, it hasn't.

I almost put yes for one specific reason and that would be to say......






yes it has gotten real toxic with all the new poisons out there


But alas I voted no because it has always been toxic in my game play experience

FearlessOne_2014

It has been toxic lately

All I got to say is as more and more cheaters and marcoing players go unpunished. Cheating and marcoing with become the new standard in Cyrodiil because at that point the only way to be competitive is to do what the other players are doing. I've gotten to the point that when I put all emotions aside, I can't even blame the player anymore, the fingers will have to be pointed at the devs. For making PvP a environment were if you are are not cheating or macroing you just stand no chance and will be labeled a scrub while the cheaters and macroing player are labeled as heroes.

So yes PvP has become way more toxic then before and rightfully so.

Lumenn

PvP has always been toxic going back as far as it's been around. Even on EQ almost two decades ago you'd have corpse camping grief(imagine having to go back into a fight with no gear/weapons to get your body and someone is waiting to kill you again.) Even the blue servers could be nasty. Any time you throw competition in the mix you MAY get the gentleman that shakes your hand after losing a duel, but more often you get the win at any cost zerg type who think they're actually competing. And they're winning so...../shrug

dem0n1k

No, it hasn't.

Toxic !? :P In my 2 years of playing ESO, I've had maybe 5 or 6 insults flung at me in PVP. Compared to other online multiplayer games that is very low. To me, when someone flings an insult in PVP... I know I have the upper hand & it makes me smile.

I have had far more civil conversations & positive tells in ESO PVP than in any other online game I have played.

Faction zone chat can often be a bit aggressive.. I see more rage at faction team mates than at the enemy factions!

yes it has gotten real toxic with all the new poisons out there

LOL !

JMadFour

PVP is toxic by nature. In every game.

learning to navigate and deal with and/or filter out the toxicity is the key to enjoying PVP.

Xylphan

Egonieser wrote: »

This has been the case more or less in any semi-competitive multiplayer game. If you think this is toxic, I dare you to try League of Legends... Oh dear, you've seen nothing yet xD

If LoL is your bar for toxicity, then this game on it's worst day is a stroll through flowery field full of rainbows, kittens, and trees growing donuts.

Unfortunately, anonymity brings out the sociopath in a lot of people. The things that people will say and do when they're no consequences for their actions is pretty abysmal.

kargen27

My first experience grouping in PvP the crown wanted us all to line up in formation at the transit shrine. Announced we were not going anywhere until we could get in straight lines. So I did the dancedrunk emote until I got kicked from group and for the most part have been having fun since.

I'm in a PvP guild now but don't run with them very often depending on who the crown is because they make playing more a chore than something that is fun. I don't mind when people let me know if/when I do something wrong but if they are insulting about it I just move on to something else. Don't need the drama. A friend wanted me to join his PvP guild but they demand you have certain armor sets and do specific rotations on your skills. I knew that wasn't going to end pretty at all so I declined. Again been having fun since.

That aside even when I am in a fun little group it can get annoying because in every battle someone is going to throw a snit because they died and obviously everybody in the game but them is cheating.

I thought I had a good experience in Cyradiil but it didn't last long. Was fishing to get the achievement and a member of an opposing faction saw me, stopped, didn't attack and went on his way. I thought, cool he saw I was fishing and let me be. Then he came back with three other evil doers and pretty much rapped up my fishing for the day.

I do like fighting in Imperial City though. It is more about just having fun killing and dying and less about control of a keep that we just can't live without.

Bouldercleave

PVP is ALWAYS a toxic environment and has been since the first MMO that I played that had open PVP. Shadowbane in 2003.

It's the general environment and competitive nature of it that's toxic - and always will be.

Jaronking

No, it hasn't.

You put this thread in the wrong section dude your going to get a lot of biased mainly PVEr opinion on this subject it be better in the Alliance war section.To you point it comes with the game when you kill a person they get upset when you kill multiple of that person and his friends they bring more friend until they finally kill you.Then T bag you when that happen I get a smile on my face.You have to learn to roll with the punches it not bad at all.You just laugh it off it what I do.If you think its getting worst I believe your reading to much into it.

@Kammakazi your wrong on everyone of your points ZOS even said they made those changes because of PVE not PVP.