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Stam Templar and Heavy Armor (PvP)

oburn
oburn
I'm just getting used to playing my Templar in pvp, still learning. My question is, with the new changes to Heavy Armor, I know it's great for Stam DK's, but I never see people talk about stam pvp using anything but Medium. I'm curious is a set of Black Rose would work good on a stam Templar, with 1 Kena and 1 blood spawn, sometimes I wear 2 set Kena.
  • Lexxypwns
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    You won't have the sustain to run 2 Kena for sure. Also, wearing heavy will make dodge rolling as a primary defense cost prohibitive. IMO, that is what makes medium armor superior, it still gives better defense, sustain, and burst. Outside of niche tank builds, medium is very likely superior to heavy for Stam builds in most cases.

    Black rose will give you some sustain and some damage, but 5pc medium hundings gives much more damage AND the medium Passives outweigh black rose sustain. Unless you're going heavy to stack healing received buffs or some other edge case it just doesn't hold up
    Edited by Lexxypwns on June 23, 2016 6:27PM
  • Whatzituyah
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    I use heavy armor with my Nightblade Argonian Tank what they don't know is by trying to hit me you are giving me a chance to gain ultimate. The reason why is my favorite set right now I already forgot it but when ever I dodge an attack I gain Ultimate which I use Mirage to increase rng dodge chance I gain Ultimate. When I get low on resources of any kind I drink a potion to gain resources and Ultimate back. I think this was a genius way to use my favorite race I am not ashamed.
    Edited by Whatzituyah on June 23, 2016 6:37PM
  • oburn
    oburn
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    You won't have the sustain to run 2 Kena for sure. Also, wearing heavy will make dodge rolling as a primary defense cost prohibitive. IMO, that is what makes medium armor superior, it still gives better defense, sustain, and burst. Outside of niche tank builds, medium is very likely superior to heavy for Stam builds in most cases.

    Black rose will give you some sustain and some damage, but 5pc medium hundings gives much more damage AND the medium Passives outweigh black rose sustain. Unless you're going heavy to stack healing received buffs or some other edge case it just doesn't hold up

    Yeah 5 piece Hundings Rage is what I'm wearing now, but I see your points, so really for pvp, as far as stam builds go, Heavy is really only useful for stam DKs
  • Whatzituyah
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    oburn wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    You won't have the sustain to run 2 Kena for sure. Also, wearing heavy will make dodge rolling as a primary defense cost prohibitive. IMO, that is what makes medium armor superior, it still gives better defense, sustain, and burst. Outside of niche tank builds, medium is very likely superior to heavy for Stam builds in most cases.

    Black rose will give you some sustain and some damage, but 5pc medium hundings gives much more damage AND the medium Passives outweigh black rose sustain. Unless you're going heavy to stack healing received buffs or some other edge case it just doesn't hold up

    Yeah 5 piece Hundings Rage is what I'm wearing now, but I see your points, so really for pvp, as far as stam builds go, Heavy is really only useful for stam DKs

    I strongly disagree.
  • oburn
    oburn
    oburn wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    You won't have the sustain to run 2 Kena for sure. Also, wearing heavy will make dodge rolling as a primary defense cost prohibitive. IMO, that is what makes medium armor superior, it still gives better defense, sustain, and burst. Outside of niche tank builds, medium is very likely superior to heavy for Stam builds in most cases.

    Black rose will give you some sustain and some damage, but 5pc medium hundings gives much more damage AND the medium Passives outweigh black rose sustain. Unless you're going heavy to stack healing received buffs or some other edge case it just doesn't hold up

    Yeah 5 piece Hundings Rage is what I'm wearing now, but I see your points, so really for pvp, as far as stam builds go, Heavy is really only useful for stam DKs

    I strongly disagree.

    I didn't mean it the way it sounded, I was saying that was basically the point the guy who responded to me was making.

    You said you use Heavy on your NB, what set up are you using?
  • Lexxypwns
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    oburn wrote: »
    oburn wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    You won't have the sustain to run 2 Kena for sure. Also, wearing heavy will make dodge rolling as a primary defense cost prohibitive. IMO, that is what makes medium armor superior, it still gives better defense, sustain, and burst. Outside of niche tank builds, medium is very likely superior to heavy for Stam builds in most cases.

    Black rose will give you some sustain and some damage, but 5pc medium hundings gives much more damage AND the medium Passives outweigh black rose sustain. Unless you're going heavy to stack healing received buffs or some other edge case it just doesn't hold up

    Yeah 5 piece Hundings Rage is what I'm wearing now, but I see your points, so really for pvp, as far as stam builds go, Heavy is really only useful for stam DKs

    I strongly disagree.

    I didn't mean it the way it sounded, I was saying that was basically the point the guy who responded to me was making.

    You said you use Heavy on your NB, what set up are you using?

    Heavy armor stamina is only good on stamina classes that have enough sustain from class Passives or other sources and are aiming to achieve specific things.

    Even in his NB example, medium tava drastically outperforms heavy tava mathematically, since the cost reduction on dodge roll from Medium synergies perfectly with that specific set
    Edited by Lexxypwns on June 23, 2016 7:09PM
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