Is Draining Shot working as intended?

DannyLV702

I recently started abusing I mean using it for pushing people off walls and feeding them to my alliance members. I notice it knocks people back over and over as long as you keep spamming it. Is that broken or intended?

nilldax

Draining is not working properly since... eternity...? You can even lock someone in nearly endless knockback, cut your own healing from it, push someone from walls or feed Slaughterfish. Everything is in thanks to "disorient" status instead of typical "stun". Similar issue was with Reverb Bash (spam, endless CC).

DannyLV702

nilldax wrote: »

Draining is not working properly since... eternity...? You can even lock someone in nearly endless knockback, cut your own healing from it, push someone from walls or feed Slaughterfish. Everything is in thanks to "disorient" status instead of typical "stun". Similar issue was with Reverb Bash (spam, endless CC).

Ah yes I fed a guy to slaughter fish trying to chase me across Alesia bridge hahaha. I'm hoping they fix it though. I really could use something else on my bar, but the unlimited knock back is too much fun to ignore

Molag_Crow

This doesn't count as a hard CC to give the player immunity/option to break free, and can be spammed? wow.

DannyLV702

Molag_Crow wrote: »

This doesn't count as a hard CC to give the player immunity/option to break free, and can be spammed? wow.

Yeah man it's freaking fun in pvp hahaha. It's also pretty hard to recover from that stun, I hate being hit by it.

Toc de Malsvi

Troll thread?

On console the players are immediately CC immune when you use it and almost immediately get out of the disorient even if they don't break free because of the likely hood of someone else doing damage to them or they have a DoT effect on them. I've never seen this constant knockback thing yall are suggesting.

DannyLV702

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Troll thread?

On console the players are immediately CC immune when you use it and almost immediately get out of the disorient even if they don't break free because of the likely hood of someone else doing damage to them or they have a DoT effect on them. I've never seen this constant knockback thing yall are suggesting.

@Toc de Malsvi I'll save and upload a clip and tag you in it tomorrow

RAGUNAnoOne

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Troll thread?

On console the players are immediately CC immune when you use it and almost immediately get out of the disorient even if they don't break free because of the likely hood of someone else doing damage to them or they have a DoT effect on them. I've never seen this constant knockback thing yall are suggesting.

thats mobs players don't have that mechanic

Toc de Malsvi

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Troll thread?

On console the players are immediately CC immune when you use it and almost immediately get out of the disorient even if they don't break free because of the likely hood of someone else doing damage to them or they have a DoT effect on them. I've never seen this constant knockback thing yall are suggesting.

thats mobs players don't have that mechanic

No, that's players, I've tried spamming it and it does not work they are knocked back once and once only.

DannyLV702

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Troll thread?

On console the players are immediately CC immune when you use it and almost immediately get out of the disorient even if they don't break free because of the likely hood of someone else doing damage to them or they have a DoT effect on them. I've never seen this constant knockback thing yall are suggesting.

thats mobs players don't have that mechanic

No, that's players, I've tried spamming it and it does not work they are knocked back once and once only.

@Toc de Malsvi


There ya go

http://youtu.be/S2plTZxm7LM

Lenikus

DannyLV702 wrote: »

There ya go
http://youtu.be/S2plTZxm7LM

As he didn't really break free, nor the effect 'naturally ran out', the cc immunity never really applied.
Working as intended? yes. Will be treated as a Bug by the devs and "fixed" ? Eyup.

Shyfty

I main a bow and use Draining shot. From what I have seen this can happen where you knock back multiple times, however I have only done it successfully once and not for lack of trying. So this leads me to believe that this is a somewhat rare bug. As far as disorient is concerned, I have never had it bug. If they break free or take damage then the stun is over and they gain cc immunity not allowing another consecutive disorient.

The-Baconator

The sad part is it's not even as broken as it used to be. If you animation canceled the cast pre IC on inclines you could get +3 in a row.

Toc de Malsvi

After testing I was able to duplicate although it did not work all the time just occasionally. It seemed to work mostly when the game did not recognize that the player had broken free, similar to virtually every other CC bug, my guess its it is related to how the game recognizes CC and break free mechanics. It did not used to work like this, at least Draining Shot and Magnum Shot didn't used to keep knocking other players back. I used to spam Magnum shot as a counter to WB, for the self knock back.

Toc de Malsvi

I also want to note that I have been spamming draining shot to knock people off walls since DB came out and never encountered this till I specifically focused in on repeatedly shooting the same players regardless of knockback trying to duplicate it.

Edit: Also after spending 10mins trying it out on a buddy I couldn't get it to proc more than twice in a row, two knockbacks and then they were immune.

CrazyStarGirlNZ

You're just a big meanie Danny!!

leepalmer95

Got tripled cc's with this in a duel once.

Birdovic

What I think Is Even worse:
If I get CC'ed, Breaking free and if timed well I can be feared WHILE Breaking free, losing Stam and still not be CC immune

Toc de Malsvi

You can see Draining Shot repeatedly knocking back last enemy in this video, it appears to work 2 times, the last time the guy doesn't really move.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clJDG7oWXkA

Toc de Malsvi

Also if you notice Corrosive Armor which is supposed to give my 100% armor penetration does little to bypass the armor of the tank. The only difference in damage early vs damage late is I didn't have time to sit on fully charged heavies. The light weaves did approximately the same amount of damage to the S&B guy early as they did late.

DannyLV702

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Also if you notice Corrosive Armor which is supposed to give my 100% armor penetration does little to bypass the armor of the tank. The only difference in damage early vs damage late is I didn't have time to sit on fully charged heavies. The light weaves did approximately the same amount of damage to the S&B guy early as they did late.

I've never actually noticed the penetration it gives me so I just either stay away from it or use it for the tankiness. So many bugs.....

Toc de Malsvi

DannyLV702 wrote: »

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Also if you notice Corrosive Armor which is supposed to give my 100% armor penetration does little to bypass the armor of the tank. The only difference in damage early vs damage late is I didn't have time to sit on fully charged heavies. The light weaves did approximately the same amount of damage to the S&B guy early as they did late.

I've never actually noticed the penetration it gives me so I just either stay away from it or use it for the tankiness. So many bugs.....

I used to use it with an immovable pot to blow people up, it doesn't appear to give any penetration anymore.