RESURRECTION OF SORCERES CALLING ALL MAGES

ForsakenSin

OK boys and girls , my main character is a mage it always was in every game and always will be, those for who's main are mages you know the satisfaction you get when playing as a mage.

Ive been pretty much part of every discussion on this forum regarding our nerfing, our confusing skill lines , our pets ability that we need on both bars , nerfing on shields and no matter how much we raise our voices our concerns our votes our amazing alternative ideas they have all fallen on death ears.

All while we are getting trolled by other happy races that that mages got weak as they got what they cried.

So i am aware that our mages are bad i am aware that we do not stand close to other classes be it in dps, sustain ect, i am aware many of us have lost hope and abandon mages ( i know i have) we have lost many of great brothers and sisters who had enough and i am aware of no future changes will happen.

So i am angry and tired, i am angry at the fact we got nerferd pve got screwed cos of pvp i am tired of everything we have done on this forum to not have any effect and all my time ive spend playing as mage making a build i enjoyed playing has gone to waste and i refuse to go out without at least a fight.


All those 1% of mages saying mages are fine and even op share your build and don't just say L2P as for the rest of us let us all unite and try to figure out a build that will be better then what we were, be it stamina build or magica, tank,dps ect for PVP and PVE.

So place your ideas about armor , weapons traits, monuds, rings skill lines morphs , numbers of damage anything and everything that will keep the think tank going and if you have a build post it here.

Lets show we shall not go down without a fight but unite and rise from the nerfs and unleash hell.

And if we fail at least then we can say " we have tried everything we could and its time to let go"

This is a calling so who is with me?

Nifty2g

5 Infal Aether, 5 Elegant, Maelstrom Lightning Staff

enjoy your easy mode left click build

SublimeSparo

Yeah at the mo i'm running 5p infallible aether 3p willpower 2p julianos and a Sharpened lightning staff, if i pray enough to rng i'll probably replace the willpower and julianos with either 5p elegant or moondancer or julianos or maybe even swap the 2p julianos for 2p skoria.
Skills wise:
Lightning staff:
Ward/ harness
Bound aegis
Inner light
Curse/destructive touch aoe/single target
Elemental blockade
Overload

Dw:
Boundless storm
Flex - det/ trap / anything you want
Bound aegis
Power surge
Liquid lightning
Shooting star

ForsakenSin

This is what i am talking getting more ideas in one place

however there are many many other players who do not have infallible aether so can we get ideas for the crafted or easier drop items ect

keep the ideas coming

OGLezard

Nifty2g wrote: »

5 Infal Aether, 5 Elegant, Maelstrom Lightning Staff

enjoy your easy mode left click build

5 elegant, 5 sergeant, stamina bound armor, enjoy. thank me later

ForsakenSin

back on topic


has anybody had any good build based on stamina with using all med armor and getting hurricane ? if so what armor did you use / weapons and what was the hurricanes base and max damage ?

Vinther

But just for the sake of argument; I'm happy that all the shield stacking sorcs (read: scrubs) are crying over the shield nerf whilst completely ignoring the beefed up vamp passives/skills on mag. sorc and not realizing that hardened ward almost never lasted the full 6 seconds when you were being hit anyway. Not gonna explain it further because you probably wont get it anyway because you sound like one of those resto staff sorcs, those are horrible, dont be them.

@Dracane do you feel horribly nerfed in PvP?

Vinther

ForsakenSin wrote: »

back on topic


has anybody had any good build based on stamina with using all med armor and getting hurricane ? if so what armor did you use / weapons and what was the hurricanes base and max damage ?

Pick your poison:
http://tamrielfoundry.com/forum/classes/sorcerer-class/

Also not a rocket science, stam sorc can easily pull 30k+ DPS just like magicka.

Waffennacht

Ok destro is necessary for PvE (ur not wrathing in PvE as a frag proc come on) which means you gotta WoE

You gotta LL for PvE, it's really the only AoE we have over 1.5k dps.

Now you add ward and a toggle or two... wow that's almost all slots already... heck throw in the one dps spam move we have...

So do you want proxy det or elemental drain... that's some choice...

Heck if we destro staff may was well do the infallible etc armor...

And we have One of the two magicka sorc builds...

Woot

holosoul

@Vinther The longer shield duration allowed 3 shields to be stacked when sorcs had breathing room. This duration nerf had the effect of making it pointless to cast more than 2 shields. In fact, if you aren't using healing ward in particular, it's pointless to even cast more than 1 shield. If that 1 shield takes damage you might as well simply re-apply that 1 shield. The reason you cast 2 shields is so that you can cast another shield after healing ward. Healing ward only heals for the value of itself that is not damaged before it expires. I'm guessing you don't understand sorcerer mechanics at all which is why I'm taking the time to explain this to you, in spite of your obvious and pathetic troll attempt.

Unlike you, I am a sorcerer player. I didn't quit when DB hit and I while I'm sure I have been vocal I have never been a supporter of shields as the primary sorcerer defense mechanic. Thus, even after the nerfs not one of my posts has been in support of buffing shields or returning their previous state.

You may now go back to trolling *salute*

holosoul

As for PvE DPS

liquid lighting and wall of elements are still very high damage per cast animation.
Even single target, you should be casting these, bonus points for boundless also.

Your destro bar should probably have [wall, liquid, crushing, inner light, bound]
One popular method is to run 2 destro staves (I'm not the biggest fan) and it is quite viable

The idea is to keep liquid lighting and wall of elements up at all times.
If you run 2x destro staff, put frags and crushing on the same bar and light attack/crushing until you get a frags proc between LL/WOE duration
you'll want mage's wrath for execute range
meteor is the best magicka dps per ultimate in PVE

Vinther

Hahaha, you don't even know how to PvE either, lol.

Here's a proper Sorc destro/dw bar setup for you for optimal min/max DPS and spell management for ST dps (as the typical OL build)

staff: elemental blockade, force pulse, crystal frags, bound aegis, inner light, shooting star
dw: liquid lightning, mage's wrath, boundless storm, bound aegis, inner light, power overload
overload bar: liquid lightning, twilight tormentor, boundless storm, bound aegis, inner light

Please go back to the drawing board.

Dracane

I never said, that Sorc did not get nerfed Magicka Sorcs got overnerfed.
Everyone I know stopped playing Magicka Sorcerer or rerolled stamina Sorcerer.

Sorcerer is not dead, it's playable. But I feel like we need something. Lifting the nerfs to conjured ward and bolt escape a liddle would be a good start. I just hope, that ZoS realizes the current state of Sorcs and gives us something, to encourage build diversity and make this class fun again.

Right now, Sorcerer is predictable and streamlined and doesn't really have much options. My bar is filled with 2 toggles and only one class ability per bar. When I look at my Nightblade and Templar, there are SO many awesome class ablities, I would slot them all I can't even decide, which abilities I should slot.

Vinther

Dracane wrote: »

I never said, that Sorc did not get nerfed Magicka Sorcs got overnerfed.
Everyone I know stopped playing Magicka Sorcerer or rerolled stamina Sorcerer.

Sorcerer is not dead, it's playable. But I feel like we need something. Lifting the nerfs to conjured ward and bolt escape a liddle would be a good start. I just hope, that ZoS realizes the current state of Sorcs and gives us something, to encourage build diversity and make this class fun again.

Right now, Sorcerer is predictable and streamlined and doesn't really have much options. My bar is filled with 2 toggles and only one class ability per bar. When I look at my Nightblade and Templar, there are SO many awesome class ablities, I would slot them all I can't even decide, which abilities I should slot.

The bolt escape got nerfed a while ago already, that's irrelevant to the DB changes. The only real nerf to ward is the duration, but at least now you get to play vamp for the 10% regen and insane dmg reduction, so that kinda makes up the ward nerf.
(Not talking about stacking healing ward on top of it, that was always for bs sorcs).

To be serious (without trolling) then I feel the BIGGEST nerf for magicka sorc was the dawnbreaker change.

Basically, as PvE sorc you don't have enough ability slots and as PvP sorc you don't have enough abilities. But that's also been like that for a while.

And pfft, @Dracane I specifically asked you on guild channel if you are feeling that you are sucking more than prior to DB and you said no ;P

Dracane

Vinther wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

I never said, that Sorc did not get nerfed Magicka Sorcs got overnerfed.
Everyone I know stopped playing Magicka Sorcerer or rerolled stamina Sorcerer.

Sorcerer is not dead, it's playable. But I feel like we need something. Lifting the nerfs to conjured ward and bolt escape a liddle would be a good start. I just hope, that ZoS realizes the current state of Sorcs and gives us something, to encourage build diversity and make this class fun again.

Right now, Sorcerer is predictable and streamlined and doesn't really have much options. My bar is filled with 2 toggles and only one class ability per bar. When I look at my Nightblade and Templar, there are SO many awesome class ablities, I would slot them all I can't even decide, which abilities I should slot.

The bolt escape got nerfed a while ago already, that's irrelevant to the DB changes. The only real nerf to ward is the duration, but at least now you get to play vamp for the 10% regen and insane dmg reduction, so that kinda makes up the ward nerf.
(Not talking about stacking healing ward on top of it, that was always for bs sorcs).

To be serious (without trolling) then I feel the BIGGEST nerf for magicka sorc was the dawnbreaker change.

Basically, as PvE sorc you don't have enough ability slots and as PvP sorc you don't have enough abilities. But that's also been like that for a while.

And pfft, @Dracane I specifically asked you on guild channel if you are feeling that you are sucking more than prior to DB and you said no ;P

I wasn't speaking about DB. I was speaking about long term nerfs and changes to Sorc.
I definately feel like I'm sucking more. Actually, something weird happened 2 days ago. I DIED ! Yes, I died on my PvE tank build I never died before on this build. The 6s duration is really hard to manage. Especially for someone like me, who is too offensive and does not like so much defense. For example I only use 1 shield and never shield stack

And if you know me, then you know that I would never even consider becoming Vamp I am Auri-El's blessed daughter and servant

Vinther

And just to clarify my idea behind this is that bolt escape should be equal to dodge roll cost increase, not as much as it is currently, because it forces sorcs into very specific builds to retain mobility.

And hardened ward's duration at 6sec is not the solution for it, you still can't kill a decent sorc without CC, so that's ok. (The only problem with 6sec ward is that if you can't cc break quick enough or get cc'd at bad timing when your shield drops you are dead and that's actually fine because that shield management separates pros from scrubs) but a better idea woulda been making damage shields crittable and the problem would have solved itself.

So TL;DR DB didn't nerf sorcs, the sorcs were already nerfed to begin with because they lack diversity and tools.

ForsakenSin

Yhea holosoul i know i really dont want to give up and i really want to find a way hence this chat to bring us together to figure it out who done which build ect as one person can't craft everything

it would appear that Dracane has insights in stamina build mage but problem is we dont have many ability

Dracane

ForsakenSin wrote: »

Vinther "BTW, how many actual GOOD sorc players do you see crying about shield nerf? Point couple of them out. If one of the best/experienced Sorc pvper in ESO @Dracane says that Sorcs did not get nerfed, then why the f would your opinion matter anyway?"

Dracane" I never said, that Sorc did not get nerfed Magicka Sorcs got overnerfed. Everyone I know stopped playing Magicka Sorcerer or rerolled stamina Sorcerer."

Drops the mic

LOL

Anyway back to topic @Dracane so what are you using as armor traits i read few people are also using bow and dual swords can you share your insight ? is there hope ? and ps i know what you mean with templer lol

Sure, Stamina Sorcerers are doing great. Dual Wield, sword and board, bow. I feel like they master all types of stamina weapons better than other stam classes. Do you see many PvP DKs using dual wield with rapid strikes for example ? I don't
Sorcs use it and are succesfull with it.

Stamina Sorcerer is finally in a great spot now, they have much to choose from and are rather unpredictable due to that.
However Magicka Sorcerer.... naaah, nothing It's a bit odd, that the formerly best caster in the game is now a better warrior than a mage but I feel happy for all the stam Sorcs, I see plenty of them.

Dracane

Vinther wrote: »

So TL;DR DB didn't nerf sorcs, the sorcs were already nerfed to begin with because they lack diversity and tools.

This sadly.
I myself am not on of these, who think that Sorcerer needs a spammable class ability for example-
I want to see destruction staff being buffed. Force pulse hits for much less than lava whip (which already hits like a wet noodle) If destruction staff would finally receive a juicy damage buff and get more creative and impactful passives, then I would be very happy.

I don't think that a class should rely on its class abilities only, otherwise weapons would be pointless (my Magblade for example has 100% class abilities on her bar, am still considering if healing ward yes or not)

ForsakenSin

Dracane wrote: »

Sure, Stamina Sorcerers are doing great. Dual Wield, sword and board, bow. I feel like they master all types of stamina weapons better than other stam classes. Do you see many PvP DKs using dual wield with rapid strikes for example ? I don't
Sorcs use it and are succesfull with it.

Stamina Sorcerer is finally in a great spot now, they have much to choose from and are rather unpredictable due to that.
However Magicka Sorcerer.... naaah, nothing It's a bit odd, that the formerly best caster in the game is now a better warrior than a mage but I feel happy for all the stam Sorcs, I see plenty of them.

this!!! this is what i was hoping for thank you , just wondering are you using medium armor or heavy ? and what traits armor are you running ?

Vinther

Dracane wrote: »

Vinther wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

I never said, that Sorc did not get nerfed Magicka Sorcs got overnerfed.
Everyone I know stopped playing Magicka Sorcerer or rerolled stamina Sorcerer.

Sorcerer is not dead, it's playable. But I feel like we need something. Lifting the nerfs to conjured ward and bolt escape a liddle would be a good start. I just hope, that ZoS realizes the current state of Sorcs and gives us something, to encourage build diversity and make this class fun again.

Right now, Sorcerer is predictable and streamlined and doesn't really have much options. My bar is filled with 2 toggles and only one class ability per bar. When I look at my Nightblade and Templar, there are SO many awesome class ablities, I would slot them all I can't even decide, which abilities I should slot.

The bolt escape got nerfed a while ago already, that's irrelevant to the DB changes. The only real nerf to ward is the duration, but at least now you get to play vamp for the 10% regen and insane dmg reduction, so that kinda makes up the ward nerf.
(Not talking about stacking healing ward on top of it, that was always for bs sorcs).

To be serious (without trolling) then I feel the BIGGEST nerf for magicka sorc was the dawnbreaker change.

Basically, as PvE sorc you don't have enough ability slots and as PvP sorc you don't have enough abilities. But that's also been like that for a while.

And pfft, @Dracane I specifically asked you on guild channel if you are feeling that you are sucking more than prior to DB and you said no ;P

I wasn't speaking about DB. I was speaking about long term nerfs and changes to Sorc.
I definately feel like I'm sucking more. Actually, something weird happened 2 days ago. I DIED ! Yes, I died on my PvE tank build I never died before on this build. The 6s duration is really hard to manage. Especially for someone like me, who is too offensive and does not like so much defense. For example I only use 1 shield and never shield stack

And if you know me, then you know that I would never even consider becoming Vamp I am Auri-El's blessed daughter and servant

That's why I run S'renddar with like a HUUUGE freaking bar right in the middle of my UI to keep track of ward's duration xD

And I know YOU would not become a vamp, but I did and I'm freaking loving it. Because I never played shield stacking sorc before and now with that Undying passive and the removal of the camo hunter from those annoying crap-players really boosted my survivability actually. Though you can still see an enemy sorc's shield duration with an addon (or even if you pay attention to their cast animation and count seconds) to time your CC and burst accordingly.

And still, whatever ppl are crying about, the main concern of sorc is NOT ENOUGH SKILLS to use or be able to slot.

I literally find it the most boring class to play, but its still horribly OP in PvP imo, the mines in sewers, the kiting ability, burst potential, its all there really, it never got changed or nerfed. I got emp by playing stam DK 1vX and then I started playing sorc and I was actually feeling like im racking up kills much easier as sorc.

So I dunno, I don't think the issue was with the ward nerf, there's so many other factors and all these ppl crying about the 6sec duration on shield should really re-think what they are saying. Idk maybe they enjoy 3 skill slots in pve making sorc the easiest class ever to play but i dont :P I always played mage classes because of their utility and mechanics and ESO lacks so much on it.

Dracane

ForsakenSin wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Sure, Stamina Sorcerers are doing great. Dual Wield, sword and board, bow. I feel like they master all types of stamina weapons better than other stam classes. Do you see many PvP DKs using dual wield with rapid strikes for example ? I don't
Sorcs use it and are succesfull with it.

Stamina Sorcerer is finally in a great spot now, they have much to choose from and are rather unpredictable due to that.
However Magicka Sorcerer.... naaah, nothing It's a bit odd, that the formerly best caster in the game is now a better warrior than a mage but I feel happy for all the stam Sorcs, I see plenty of them.

this!!! this is what i was hoping for thank you , just wondering are you using medium armor or heavy ? and what traits armor are you running ?

Since I am a Magicka stacker on my Sorc (and I am really a min maxer when it comes to this) I am obsessed with max stats, so I run a tradtional 5 medium, 1 light, 1 heavy.
I am currently toying around with the briarheart set for 1vx purpose and I feel like it's underrestimated. And yes, I exploit Malubeth.....

Vinther

ForsakenSin wrote: »

Yhea holosoul i know i really dont want to give up and i really want to find a way hence this chat to bring us together to figure it out who done which build ect as one person can't craft everything

it would appear that Dracane has insights in stamina build mage but problem is we dont have many ability

It's all already theorycrafted and thought about and tested and used and proven and written, just go there:

http://tamrielfoundry.com/forum/classes/sorcerer-class/

Stamina builds, magicka builds whatever you need for pve man.

Dracane

Vinther wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Vinther wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

I never said, that Sorc did not get nerfed Magicka Sorcs got overnerfed.
Everyone I know stopped playing Magicka Sorcerer or rerolled stamina Sorcerer.

Sorcerer is not dead, it's playable. But I feel like we need something. Lifting the nerfs to conjured ward and bolt escape a liddle would be a good start. I just hope, that ZoS realizes the current state of Sorcs and gives us something, to encourage build diversity and make this class fun again.

Right now, Sorcerer is predictable and streamlined and doesn't really have much options. My bar is filled with 2 toggles and only one class ability per bar. When I look at my Nightblade and Templar, there are SO many awesome class ablities, I would slot them all I can't even decide, which abilities I should slot.

The bolt escape got nerfed a while ago already, that's irrelevant to the DB changes. The only real nerf to ward is the duration, but at least now you get to play vamp for the 10% regen and insane dmg reduction, so that kinda makes up the ward nerf.
(Not talking about stacking healing ward on top of it, that was always for bs sorcs).

To be serious (without trolling) then I feel the BIGGEST nerf for magicka sorc was the dawnbreaker change.

Basically, as PvE sorc you don't have enough ability slots and as PvP sorc you don't have enough abilities. But that's also been like that for a while.

And pfft, @Dracane I specifically asked you on guild channel if you are feeling that you are sucking more than prior to DB and you said no ;P

I wasn't speaking about DB. I was speaking about long term nerfs and changes to Sorc.
I definately feel like I'm sucking more. Actually, something weird happened 2 days ago. I DIED ! Yes, I died on my PvE tank build I never died before on this build. The 6s duration is really hard to manage. Especially for someone like me, who is too offensive and does not like so much defense. For example I only use 1 shield and never shield stack

And if you know me, then you know that I would never even consider becoming Vamp I am Auri-El's blessed daughter and servant

That's why I run S'renddar with like a HUUUGE freaking bar right in the middle of my UI to keep track of ward's duration xD

And I know YOU would not become a vamp, but I did and I'm freaking loving it. Because I never played shield stacking sorc before and now with that Undying passive and the removal of the camo hunter from those annoying crap-players really boosted my survivability actually. Though you can still see an enemy sorc's shield duration with an addon (or even if you pay attention to their cast animation and count seconds) to time your CC and burst accordingly.

And still, whatever ppl are crying about, the main concern of sorc is NOT ENOUGH SKILLS to use or be able to slot.

I literally find it the most boring class to play, but its still horribly OP in PvP imo, the mines in sewers, the kiting ability, burst potential, its all there really, it never got changed or nerfed. I got emp by playing stam DK 1vX and then I started playing sorc and I was actually feeling like im racking up kills much easier as sorc.

So I dunno, I don't think the issue was with the ward nerf, there's so many other factors and all these ppl crying about the 6sec duration on shield should really re-think what they are saying. Idk maybe they enjoy 3 skill slots in pve making sorc the easiest class ever to play but i dont :P I always played mage classes because of their utility and mechanics and ESO lacks so much on it.

Yep, killing Magsorcs is candy in my opinion. Easiest class to kill for me the 6s duration has opened up the gates to just 1 shot every non-pro Sorc.

To be honest, I feel like my damage as a Sorc is underwhelming. I think I deal the most damage with my magicka Templar. I just jump on a target, 1 puncturing sweep and beam and dead. But this is because force shock is sooooo so super weak That's my point. Sorcerer could be good, but rely on this weapon and it's just a bad weapon.

And well..... burst I declaired in another thread, that I don't think that burst is the selling point of Sorcs. Nightblade has better and unpredictable burst in my opinion. It requires melee range, but let's be honest range is basically non existing in pvp with the potency of gap closers.

ForsakenSin

Aaaaaa yes that was one of the sets i was thinking about , using briarheart full stamina maybe using health glyfs (And yes, I exploit Malubeth) LOL don't have that yet hmmm using hurricane from this , i think this might be a build to change to actually.

Vinther

Dracane wrote: »

Vinther wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Vinther wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

I never said, that Sorc did not get nerfed Magicka Sorcs got overnerfed.
Everyone I know stopped playing Magicka Sorcerer or rerolled stamina Sorcerer.

Sorcerer is not dead, it's playable. But I feel like we need something. Lifting the nerfs to conjured ward and bolt escape a liddle would be a good start. I just hope, that ZoS realizes the current state of Sorcs and gives us something, to encourage build diversity and make this class fun again.

Right now, Sorcerer is predictable and streamlined and doesn't really have much options. My bar is filled with 2 toggles and only one class ability per bar. When I look at my Nightblade and Templar, there are SO many awesome class ablities, I would slot them all I can't even decide, which abilities I should slot.

The bolt escape got nerfed a while ago already, that's irrelevant to the DB changes. The only real nerf to ward is the duration, but at least now you get to play vamp for the 10% regen and insane dmg reduction, so that kinda makes up the ward nerf.
(Not talking about stacking healing ward on top of it, that was always for bs sorcs).

To be serious (without trolling) then I feel the BIGGEST nerf for magicka sorc was the dawnbreaker change.

Basically, as PvE sorc you don't have enough ability slots and as PvP sorc you don't have enough abilities. But that's also been like that for a while.

And pfft, @Dracane I specifically asked you on guild channel if you are feeling that you are sucking more than prior to DB and you said no ;P

I wasn't speaking about DB. I was speaking about long term nerfs and changes to Sorc.
I definately feel like I'm sucking more. Actually, something weird happened 2 days ago. I DIED ! Yes, I died on my PvE tank build I never died before on this build. The 6s duration is really hard to manage. Especially for someone like me, who is too offensive and does not like so much defense. For example I only use 1 shield and never shield stack

And if you know me, then you know that I would never even consider becoming Vamp I am Auri-El's blessed daughter and servant

That's why I run S'renddar with like a HUUUGE freaking bar right in the middle of my UI to keep track of ward's duration xD

And I know YOU would not become a vamp, but I did and I'm freaking loving it. Because I never played shield stacking sorc before and now with that Undying passive and the removal of the camo hunter from those annoying crap-players really boosted my survivability actually. Though you can still see an enemy sorc's shield duration with an addon (or even if you pay attention to their cast animation and count seconds) to time your CC and burst accordingly.

And still, whatever ppl are crying about, the main concern of sorc is NOT ENOUGH SKILLS to use or be able to slot.

I literally find it the most boring class to play, but its still horribly OP in PvP imo, the mines in sewers, the kiting ability, burst potential, its all there really, it never got changed or nerfed. I got emp by playing stam DK 1vX and then I started playing sorc and I was actually feeling like im racking up kills much easier as sorc.

So I dunno, I don't think the issue was with the ward nerf, there's so many other factors and all these ppl crying about the 6sec duration on shield should really re-think what they are saying. Idk maybe they enjoy 3 skill slots in pve making sorc the easiest class ever to play but i dont :P I always played mage classes because of their utility and mechanics and ESO lacks so much on it.

Yep, killing Magsorcs is candy in my opinion. Easiest class to kill for me the 6s duration has opened up the gates to just 1 shot every non-pro Sorc.

To be honest, I feel like my damage as a Sorc is underwhelming. I think I deal the most damage with my magicka Templar. I just jump on a target, 1 puncturing sweep and beam and dead. But this is because force shock is sooooo so super weak That's my point. Sorcerer could be good, but rely on this weapon and it's just a bad weapon.

And well..... burst I declaired in another thread, that I don't think that burst is the selling point of Sorcs. Nightblade has better and unpredictable burst in my opinion. It requires melee range, but let's be honest range is basically non existing in pvp with the potency of gap closers.

Hah, I feel the exact opposite when I'm on my magicka templar! I always think "if i would be on my sorc, this *** woulda been dead already" I feel like I'm not doing enough damage on templar than Im doing on sorc, idk wtf lol

*** now I wanna go log on my sorc instead of sleeping -.-

Dracane

ForsakenSin wrote: »

Aaaaaa yes that was one of the sets i was thinking about , using briarheart full stamina maybe using health glyfs (And yes, I exploit Malubeth) LOL don't have that yet hmmm using hurricane from this , i think this might be a build to change to actually.

I mean look at it. Hurricane, caltrops, suppression field and aoe spam and dots.
This would already proc briarheart like crazy in a single target, but vs many targets ?

Sure, it only heals for like 300-500 in pvp per hit (without malubeth and any Cp). BUT, it has no cooldown.
I am literally immortal while it is up and as long as I keep my stuff up.

Dracane

Vinther wrote: »

Hah, I feel the exact opposite when I'm on my magicka templar! I always think "if i would be on my sorc, this *** woulda been dead already" I feel like I'm not doing enough damage on templar than Im doing on sorc, idk wtf lol

*** now I wanna go log on my sorc instead of sleeping -.-

Awwwwww cutes post of the days *-*

Well, my internet stick ran out yesterday evening at 7 pm, so I had to stop playing and went to bed instead.
I am going to the tanning salon now, then I will buy new cash for the stick. I am sooo happy, that I have my appartment in 5 days and finally have a real internet connection. Internet sticks are cash grab.

Vinther

And damn stam sorcs in PvP... I refuse to play one because I actually consider them crazy OP with the DB patch BUFFS (yes buffs not nerfs). Especially because now they have insane ult in form of DB that even if it wont kill you ticks the physical disintegration passive when you are on low health because it puts physical dot on you.

And then people want even more, like wtf. Ok Wrecking blow spam got nerfed but why I don't see stam dks crying about the same thing? they dont have a class based stamina spammable either :P Im glad the WB got nerfed, its a stupid annoying skill that was way too overpowered and I could never use it almost ever because im a solo player and good luck spamming WB with 10 scrubs on your back

Dracane

Vinther wrote: »

And damn stam sorcs in PvP... I refuse to play one because I actually consider them crazy OP with the DB patch BUFFS (yes buffs not nerfs). Especially because now they have insane ult in form of DB that even if it wont kill you ticks the physical disintegration passive when you are on low health because it puts physical dot on you.

And then people want even more, like wtf. Ok Wrecking blow spam got nerfed but why I don't see stam dks crying about the same thing? they dont have a class based stamina spammable either :P Im glad the WB got nerfed, its a stupid annoying skill that was way too overpowered and I could never use it almost ever because im a solo player and good luck spamming WB with 10 scrubs on your back

Uppercut received the right approach of nerfing/adjusting.
Let 1 morph keep the damage, and give the other, formerly useless morph the knockdown. THIS is how to fix abilities, not just nerf it without giving people an option. And Shield bash received a similar approach.

But Magicka Sorcerer just got nerfed, nerfed, nerfed. Nothing in return.

ForsakenSin

Hey if you get briarheart to legendary do the stats increase by any chance ?