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Night Blade for a Crappy Player

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Gromgok
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Hey guys,

I'm kind of pumped by the new rogue additions to TESO. However, I kind of suck at TESO solo PvE. I'm old and uncoordinated and slow. I have trouble with dodging.

Anyway, is there a NB dagger build that I could play that might work for an old timer like me? One that doesn't have to constantly reposition and dodge? Or is that contrary to the very mechanics of the game itself?

Any advice is appreciated, and the more detailed the better for this noob!

Thanks!
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    You seek a Magicka Nightblade build then. Wear some Heavy Armor for Shadow Barrier and rely on things like Sap Essence, Mass Hysteria, and Killer's Blade to get the job done all the while tanking the hits that come your way.
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 22, 2016 3:19AM
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  • Gromgok
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    That sounds good! And I can still use daggers and be roguey??
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    Gromgok wrote: »
    That sounds good! And I can still use daggers and be roguey??

    Yes. Dual Wielding has the highest base damage of all weapon types. You just won't find much use in the Dual Wield attacks lol
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 22, 2016 3:25AM
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    Focus on nb critical build, currently NB with crit build can out dps stamDK or souplar
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  • WhiteNoiseMaker
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    Actually using Dual Weapons for the Passive bonuses is excellent if you are Magicka based, just don't learn/slot any of the actual attack skills for use.
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  • Gromgok
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    Is there a detailed build I could find somewhere for a Magicka NB? I've got very little experience in the game so far.
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  • Vinther
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    Hey man, its all good, 99% of nightblades are crappy players. It's a class meant for crappy players, just like rogues in WoW and snipers in CoD.

    You'll improve, keep at it. Go to tamrielfoundry.com forums for NB builds.
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  • Vinther
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    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Focus on nb critical build, currently NB with crit build can out dps stamDK or souplar

    I don't know under which rock you live at, but "OK"
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    You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.
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    SlayerTheDragon wrote: »
    You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.

    Hmm, do Templars heal other players? I was kinda looking forward to trying a stealthy rogue type.
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    Gromgok wrote: »
    SlayerTheDragon wrote: »
    You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.

    Hmm, do Templars heal other players? I was kinda looking forward to trying a stealthy rogue type.

    To answer your question, this is my templar (and no, i dont heal other players):
    yeD3epD.jpg
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    Vinther wrote: »
    Gromgok wrote: »
    SlayerTheDragon wrote: »
    You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.

    Hmm, do Templars heal other players? I was kinda looking forward to trying a stealthy rogue type.

    To answer your question, this is my templar (and no, i dont heal other players):
    yeD3epD.jpg

    OP, you should try templars ( magicka version also)
    Just use jabs/sweeps that it. You don't need to move like dodgeroll a lot and when the boss HP is low use Radiant destruction.

    The rotations for Magplar.
    Channel focus>entropy>toppling charge> puncturing sweeps> RD(low health only)

    Get more Champion points and put 75 in thaumaturge.
    Weapons: Dual wielding.
    Armor: 5:1:1 or 6:1
    5:1:1, 5 light, 1 medium and 1 heavy.( undaunted passive)
    6: light, 1 heavy.
    Karg set/julanious.
    Get will power rings for spell damage.
    For stamplars
    No idea!( of a good build)

    Lastly, NB for magicka version uses a lot of rotations and stamina is all about burst.

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  • TheUrbanWizard
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    Use Double Take morph, it will speed you up for a while.
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  • Vinther
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    TheUrbanWizard wrote: »
    Use Double Take morph, it will speed you up for a while.

    From what I've seen, newbie with speed buffs are more prone to deaths than without. I also know from the experience of trying to get up the stairs with speed buffed 60% mount and on foot xD
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  • Vinther
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    UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
    Vinther wrote: »
    Hey man, its all good, 99% of nightblades are crappy players. It's a class meant for crappy players, just like rogues in WoW and snipers in CoD.

    You'll improve, keep at it. Go to tamrielfoundry.com forums for NB builds.

    Haters gonna hate.

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    If you stick with DW use swords for more damage or daggers for the crit. Only put skill points in the last DW passive as it's the only one that you need (and all the others require use of DW skills).

    For skills, you can't go past refreshing path, funnel health, siphoning attacks, sap essence, merciless resolve (think that's the magic one), impale, inner light (if you want more crit), cloak and concealed weapon.

    5 heavy armor and 2 light for the passives and so you can tank those extra hits if that's what you're struggling with at the moment.
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    UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
    Gromgok wrote: »
    That sounds good! And I can still use daggers and be roguey??

    Yes. Dual Wielding has the highest base damage of all weapon types. You just won't find much use in the Dual Wield attacks lol

    Only swords. Daggers won't do anything for a magics build
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
    Gromgok wrote: »
    That sounds good! And I can still use daggers and be roguey??

    Yes. Dual Wielding has the highest base damage of all weapon types. You just won't find much use in the Dual Wield attacks lol

    Only swords. Daggers won't do anything for a magics build

    Well it's not that big a difference if he wants to use Daggers but ya lol
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 22, 2016 7:57AM
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  • Gromgok
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    Van_0S wrote: »
    Vinther wrote: »
    Gromgok wrote: »
    SlayerTheDragon wrote: »
    You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.

    Hmm, do Templars heal other players? I was kinda looking forward to trying a stealthy rogue type.

    To answer your question, this is my templar (and no, i dont heal other players):
    yeD3epD.jpg

    OP, you should try templars ( magicka version also)
    Just use jabs/sweeps that it. You don't need to move like dodgeroll a lot and when the boss HP is low use Radiant destruction.

    The rotations for Magplar.
    Channel focus>entropy>toppling charge> puncturing sweeps> RD(low health only)

    Get more Champion points and put 75 in thaumaturge.
    Weapons: Dual wielding.
    Armor: 5:1:1 or 6:1
    5:1:1, 5 light, 1 medium and 1 heavy.( undaunted passive)
    6: light, 1 heavy.
    Karg set/julanious.
    Get will power rings for spell damage.
    For stamplars
    No idea!( of a good build)

    Lastly, NB for magicka version uses a lot of rotations and stamina is all about burst.


    OK! So I can play a dual-dagger-wielding Templar, too? Can he take part in all the new thieves' guild quests? Are those open to any character type?

    Thanks for all the help, guys!
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    Gromgok wrote: »
    OK! So I can play a dual-dagger-wielding Templar, too? Can he take part in all the new thieves' guild quests? Are those open to any character type?

    Thanks for all the help, guys!

    None of the Questlines are restricted. You can literally be a Stendarr worshiping Templar Healer dressed in all white and still become an Assassin in the Dark Brotherhood. So you're fine with the Thieve's Guild.
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  • clayandaudrey_ESO
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    You can do very well with a dw stamina build. Not at home right now but I will pm you my build if you like. It is very much the rogue archetype.
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    clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »
    You can do very well with a dw stamina build. Not at home right now but I will pm you my build if you like. It is very much the rogue archetype.

    Sure, if it would suit me crappy playstyle, please send it! Thanks.
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    SlayerTheDragon wrote: »
    You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.

    Why do Templars have to move less? I don't understand enough about the game yet to know this.

    Also, is there the possibility of combining spear + shield, either as a Templar or NB?
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    Vinther wrote: »
    Hey man, its all good, 99% of nightblades are crappy players. It's a class meant for crappy players, just like rogues in WoW and snipers in CoD.

    You'll improve, keep at it. Go to tamrielfoundry.com forums for NB builds.

    :D LOL
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    UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
    Vinther wrote: »
    Hey man, its all good, 99% of nightblades are crappy players. It's a class meant for crappy players, just like rogues in WoW and snipers in CoD.

    You'll improve, keep at it. Go to tamrielfoundry.com forums for NB builds.

    Haters gonna hate.

    Exactly! Had me cracking up. I make deceivers believers.
    Motto: Make deceivers believers.

    Strength of character is not a physical thing. -E
    Walking a mile in someone else's shoes, has nothing to do with the path taken. -E

    An accusation of elitism, is an indirect recognition of one's own inferiority. -E

    The best way to prove someone wrong, is to do better yourself. -E

    I keep forgetting to remember to get a photographic memory.
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  • babedenny
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    If you're old and have trouble dodging (like me), put all of your points into health. Every, single, one. Then enchant all your gear with stamina (or magicka) to make up for it. Learn to weave light and heavy attacks.

    A younger, more skilled player, may do better going 100% DPS. I need wiggle room. It has made a world of difference for me.

    Edit: bread. steal it. eat it. often.

    Edit #2: block, block, block.

    Edit #3: i should add that i am a redguard. as such, i have great stamina passives.

    Edited by babedenny on June 23, 2016 1:34AM
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    Vinther wrote: »
    Gromgok wrote: »
    SlayerTheDragon wrote: »
    You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.

    Hmm, do Templars heal other players? I was kinda looking forward to trying a stealthy rogue type.

    To answer your question, this is my templar (and no, i dont heal other players):
    yeD3epD.jpg

    He makes love to them. :D
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