The single most important thing about Housing - It needs to be available to EVERYONE.

JMadFour · June 2016

EVERYONE needs to be able to get a house. Not just the people(or Guilds) who can log in at the crack of dawn when the server comes up to buy them all within 10 minutes.

Please, ZOS, don't do what FFXIV did. This is why FFXIV's housing, as nice as its features are, is considered by its playerbase to be a complete mess. They've got a handful of people selling squatting on housing plots and selling them for 15-20x the normal price, because FFXIV's devs decided, in their infinite wisdom, to 1) Release a ridiculously low amount of Housing Plots for their server's populations, and 2) Mix Guild and Player Housing together. Between those two things, there just aren't enough Houses to go around. There are players with 3-4 personal houses, and Guilds using Personal houses because there are no Guild Houses available. They added more houses last patch, but it still isn't enough. Now they are set to release Apartments for "everyone else" in their next update. They should have done this from the start.

1)Guild Housing, and Personal Housing NEED to be separate.
2)There needs to be enough Housing that EVERYONE who can afford one, can get one.
3)Personal Houses need to be Account-wide, and you should only be able to own one at a time.

NOTE: I am NOT advocating that everyone just be GIVEN a house. There should be a cost to buy one, and it should be exhorbitantly expensive. But, NO player, not one, should be locked out of having a house simply because THERE ARE NONE AVAILABLE. This has been the case in FFXIV ever since their Housing came out.

I, personally, would be fine with Apartment-style personal housing with larger Guild Houses, tbh, if it meant that everyone could get one.

Runs · June 2016

I personally expect it to be a DLC as housing is not a need, it is a desire. Base game or DLC just as long as it is not a sub only thing, I would be fine. I would like to see it include extra "bank" space. I mean what good is a house if you can't store anything in it? Outside of that I have no real interest in personal homes.

I do have high hopes for guild based housing, if they end up making that.

newtinmpls · June 2016

Good point, well said.

It never occurred to me that there would be a system where someone could not get housing.

That would be.....very counterproductive.

Also - should absolutely NOT be RNG based or even significantly affected.

phairdon · June 2016

My hope for housing is being DLC based and along the line of Skyrim. Buy a housing contract or do a quest for one, gather materials for building the house, hire staff, guards etc.

clayandaudrey_ESO · June 2016

I expect it to be instanced like SWTOR's housing.

DjSolJAH · June 2016

phairdon wrote: »

My hope for housing is being DLC based and along the line of Skyrim. Buy a housing contract or do a quest for one, gather materials for building the house, hire staff, guards etc.

I'm sure there's slaves somewhere in the lore for that

ComboBreaker88 · June 2016

Yeah... let's add 7 million houses to the world. Lmao. Actual housing should be limited. Instanced "apartments" should be there too, for players who can buy them. Unlimited. But as for ACTUAL houses? Those should be limited to say 50-80 per zone. Unless they create instanced neighborhoods, there simple isn't enough space. But housing in the over world should be limited and should include guild halls. Make it so guild halls can have portals to that guilds realm, like the mage guild island. Where all the members of that guild who are allowed a plot can make their own home.

newtinmpls · June 2016

I would expect some sort of guildhall rental (maybe simlar to kiosks, but with more options to walk-in and such) to be in the world, and individual housing to be instanced, but you should be able to group with people and invite them into your house (or cave, or whatever).

I also expect that some will be earned by quest, some by gold purchase and some by crowns (same as pets and mounts).

clayandaudrey_ESO · June 2016

I expect housing to be a crown store item with amenities both purchasable in the crown store and as loot. Housing is too big of a cash cow to just put it in game.

Galbrant · June 2016

Just make it a pocket plane of oblivion. Since we help Sheogorath out a lot maybe let us do a quest chain for him in a Expansion/DLC and he'll reward us with our own small plane of oblivion that has a wayshrine which we can customize and we can change the landscape to the sky to whatever we want along our own customized house. That way they don't have players fighting for a home. Oh and maybe add a new crafting skill line for housing or Enchanting and Woodworking can be expanded to create cosmetics for the plane.

JMadFour · June 2016

ComboBreaker88 wrote: »

Yeah... let's add 7 million houses to the world. Lmao. Actual housing should be limited. Instanced "apartments" should be there too, for players who can buy them. Unlimited. But as for ACTUAL houses? Those should be limited to say 50-80 per zone. Unless they create instanced neighborhoods, there simple isn't enough space. But housing in the over world should be limited and should include guild halls. Make it so guild halls can have portals to that guilds realm, like the mage guild island. Where all the members of that guild who are allowed a plot can make their own home.

I'm expecting instanced neighborhoods. putting housing in the actual game world would be incredibly stupid and unfeasible from a technical standpoint. No MMO actually does that. Instanced Neighborhoods is typically the way it is done.

I'd do Instanced Neighborhoods for Guild Housing, and Instanced Apartment-style housing for individuals.

but however they decide to do it, they need to do it in a way that Housing is available to all who can afford it.

Daemons_Bane · June 2016

I'd be happy with something in the style of a simole Dunmer house.. If it gives me more bank space and some crafting stations, it would be divine.. IF physical houses were added to the zone, why not make them like big halls that the guils could fight for, like traders

notimetocare · June 2016

Bahahahahahah. Expect to pay, expect to pay more if you want something nice. They know they can milk the RPers for a ton of money, they will do it.

Mojmir · June 2016

sub or gtfo lol

Daemons_Bane · June 2016

notimetocare wrote: »

Bahahahahahah. Expect to pay, expect to pay more if you want something nice. They know they can milk the RPers for a ton of money, they will do it.

I love how you think only the RP players will buy stuff

Miszou · June 2016

Galbrant wrote: »

Just make it a pocket plane of oblivion. Since we help Sheogorath out a lot maybe let us do a quest chain for him in a Expansion/DLC and he'll reward us with our own small plane of oblivion that has a wayshrine which we can customize and we can change the landscape to the sky to whatever we want along our own customized house. That way they don't have players fighting for a home. Oh and maybe add a new crafting skill line for housing or Enchanting and Woodworking can be expanded to create cosmetics for the plane.

^ Easiest and simplest solution.

Also, be able to invite guild/friends/group etc into your plane, otherwise no-one will ever find it.

ShedsHisTail · June 2016

JMadFour wrote: »

ComboBreaker88 wrote: »

Yeah... let's add 7 million houses to the world. Lmao. Actual housing should be limited. Instanced "apartments" should be there too, for players who can buy them. Unlimited. But as for ACTUAL houses? Those should be limited to say 50-80 per zone. Unless they create instanced neighborhoods, there simple isn't enough space. But housing in the over world should be limited and should include guild halls. Make it so guild halls can have portals to that guilds realm, like the mage guild island. Where all the members of that guild who are allowed a plot can make their own home.

I'm expecting instanced neighborhoods. putting housing in the actual game world would be incredibly stupid and unfeasible from a technical standpoint. No MMO actually does that. Instanced Neighborhoods is typically the way it is done.

I'd do Instanced Neighborhoods for Guild Housing, and Instanced Apartment-style housing for individuals.

but however they decide to do it, they need to do it in a way that Housing is available to all who can afford it.

What would be even cooler is if the instanced neighborhoods contained housing "plots" instead of houses and the player could build accordingly. With building options fitted to the theme of that neighborhood.

Also, would be super cool is instead of just having neighborhoods in cities, they could have smaller ones out in the wild. A secluded glen in the mountains. Or a moderately sized oasis out in the desert, that sort of thing.

But, yeah, instanced neighborhoods seems like the most likely option. That way once one fills up the server just makes another identical instance.

Edit: I'd also love to see furnishings and additions made available through crafting lines; similar to Hearthfire in Skyrim.

Daemons_Bane · June 2016

Pocked planes.. now I imagine an entire realm filmed with floating islands that we can live on

kargen27 · June 2016

Serious question, why would you want a house? This is my first MMO and I really don't see any point to having a house.

Daemons_Bane · June 2016

kargen27 wrote: »

Serious question, why would you want a house? This is my first MMO and I really don't see any point to having a house.

well, most people simply like to have a pace to call their own.. and the more you can do there, the better :-) it could have trophies for example, menories of your glorious victories
Take WOW for example.. huge keeps that lets you do lots of stuff.. and those keeps are essentially player housing

Neirymn · June 2016

I'm not sure how I would like housing to be, but not as FFXIV housing for sure. I wanted a big house, I was farming every day to get all the millions I needed to buy one, but then I realized there was none left.

I'd like it to be in the Elder Scrolls spirit as much as possible, and so that people has the time to farm the money to buy the house they want, even if it's an expensive one and it takes months to get all the money, but I don't think it's possible in a MMO, first come, first served.

We'll see.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · June 2016

In my honest opinion I don't see the point of player housing at all, I'm here to play the game not sit around a Bed, a table and some chairs (that you can't even sit on mind you) doing nothing but trying to make-believe, and besides the options would most likely be very limited, what If I want a Coffin instead of a Bed? I doubt we would get that, you will probably be given a generic Imperial looking home that is identical for everyone.

Daemons_Bane · June 2016

Well FO, a bethesda game, had different interior designs :-) so who knows

notimetocare · June 2016

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

Bahahahahahah. Expect to pay, expect to pay more if you want something nice. They know they can milk the RPers for a ton of money, they will do it.

I love how you think only the RP players will buy stuff

Other people will buy it, but that is who ZOS is catering to now. The content for pvp and pve is growing worse and worse with each release. They can milk fashion trash for no effort and high income.

scorpiodog · June 2016

Half of the continent is still unused. I'd expect something like you would have to first buy the DLC, then do the questlines and clear the baddies out of your neighborhood, and then buy housing on top of that.

JMadFour · June 2016

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

In my honest opinion I don't see the point of player housing at all, I'm here to play the game not sit around a Bed, a table and some chairs (that you can't even sit on mind you) doing nothing but trying to make-believe, and besides the options would most likely be very limited, what If I want a Coffin instead of a Bed? I doubt we would get that, you will probably be given a generic Imperial looking home that is identical for everyone.

that's what everyone says, TX.

until Housing comes out.

and EVERYONE, even the people who say this, buy houses and decorate em and all that stuff.

Housing gets suggested, Raiders, Progression content people, and PVPers all say "oh housing is pointless I wanna kill stuff not sit in a house, gimme more dungeons and raids screw all those silly "RPer" nerds."

Housing gets implemented, Raiders, Progresison People, and PVPers all sit in their houses, posting screenshots of there decoration and crap. Or they complain that now they want one and either can't afford it, or none are available.

I've seen it in every MMO I've played that has had housing. LOTRO, FFXIV, Dark Age of Camelot, you name it, exact same cycle.

notimetocare · June 2016

JMadFour wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

In my honest opinion I don't see the point of player housing at all, I'm here to play the game not sit around a Bed, a table and some chairs (that you can't even sit on mind you) doing nothing but trying to make-believe, and besides the options would most likely be very limited, what If I want a Coffin instead of a Bed? I doubt we would get that, you will probably be given a generic Imperial looking home that is identical for everyone.

that's what everyone says, TX.

until Housing comes out.

and EVERYONE, even the people who say this, buy houses and decorate em and all that stuff.

Housing gets suggested, Raiders, Progression content people, and PVPers all say "oh housing is pointless I wanna kill stuff not sit in a house, gimme more dungeons and raids screw all those silly "RPer" nerds."

Housing gets implemented, Raiders, Progresison People, and PVPers all sit in their houses, posting screenshots of there decoration and crap. Or they complain that now they want one and either can't afford it, or none are available.

I've seen it in every MMO I've played that has had housing. LOTRO, FFXIV, Dark Age of Camelot, you name it, exact same cycle.

Well when all they give you is RPer content... Its either find a new game or enjoy it

cyclonus11 · June 2016

JMadFour wrote: »

I'm expecting instanced neighborhoods. putting housing in the actual game world would be incredibly stupid and unfeasible from a technical standpoint. No MMO actually does that.

SWG did. Your PA could build a town from scratch, and everyone could have their own home.

JMadFour · June 2016

cyclonus11 wrote: »

JMadFour wrote: »

I'm expecting instanced neighborhoods. putting housing in the actual game world would be incredibly stupid and unfeasible from a technical standpoint. No MMO actually does that.

SWG did. Your PA could build a town from scratch, and everyone could have their own home.

ah, right. SWG did do that. i never did play that game, tbh.

I stand corrected.

even so, I don't expect ESO to do this.

ConeOfSilence · June 2016

Would likely cost crowns anyway and not in game gold eliminating the possibility of ppl selling them for huge in game gold prices.

JMadFour · June 2016

ConeOfSilence wrote: »

Would likely cost crowns anyway and not in game gold eliminating the possibility of ppl selling them for huge in game gold prices.

there will definitely be things like Furniture sold in the Crown Store, yes.

However, the houses themselves will almost certainly cost Gold. Housing is generally used as a MASSIVE gold sink. no reason for ZOS to rock the boat on that front.