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Dragonknights are still underpowered

Clarkieson
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Please buff.

And nerf sorcs.

Thast is all
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  • Anhedonie
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    Well, magdk is really weak now. Whip is called "a wet noodle" for a reason and new skill cost increase doesn't help either.


    Edited by Anhedonie on June 21, 2016 12:48AM
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Well, magdk is really weak now. Whip is called "a wet noodle" for a reason and new skill cost increase doesn't help either.


    Nerf wet noodles...? i just dont see how you could use a dk build they are not viable for anything on ESO.
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    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Well, magdk is really weak now. Whip is called "a wet noodle" for a reason and new skill cost increase doesn't help either.


    Nerf wet noodles...? i just dont see how you could use a dk build they are not viable for anything on ESO.

    Not optimal you mean.
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    stam DK has some of the highest DPS in the game right now...
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  • Clarkieson
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    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Well, magdk is really weak now. Whip is called "a wet noodle" for a reason and new skill cost increase doesn't help either.


    Nerf wet noodles...? i just dont see how you could use a dk build they are not viable for anything on ESO.

    Not optimal you mean.

    Pretty sure i typed viable

    Edited by Clarkieson on June 21, 2016 12:58AM
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    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Well, magdk is really weak now. Whip is called "a wet noodle" for a reason and new skill cost increase doesn't help either.


    Nerf wet noodles...? i just dont see how you could use a dk build they are not viable for anything on ESO.

    Stamdk is great right now.
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  • Clarkieson
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    Fignutz821 wrote: »
    stam DK has some of the highest DPS in the game right now...
    Fignutz821 wrote: »
    stam DK has some of the highest DPS in the game right now...

    Yeah they do.

    But they still need a buff.

    Oh im using ZOS logic by the way

    The whole game is based around dks, it always has been. Other classes are just novelty value

    Nerf sorcs.
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    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Well, magdk is really weak now. Whip is called "a wet noodle" for a reason and new skill cost increase doesn't help either.


    Nerf wet noodles...? i just dont see how you could use a dk build they are not viable for anything on ESO.

    Not optimal you mean.

    Pretty sure i typed viable

    I can clear 99% of this game's content with a bow as main weapon and a resto staff, why couldn't dragonknights too ?
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Well, magdk is really weak now. Whip is called "a wet noodle" for a reason and new skill cost increase doesn't help either.


    That's one hard hitting wet noodle then. It hits as hard as a Swallow Soul on my MagBlade (similar SD and Magicka Values)
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  • Clarkieson
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    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Well, magdk is really weak now. Whip is called "a wet noodle" for a reason and new skill cost increase doesn't help either.


    Nerf wet noodles...? i just dont see how you could use a dk build they are not viable for anything on ESO.

    Not optimal you mean.

    Pretty sure i typed viable

    I can clear 99% of this game's content with a bow as main weapon and a resto staff, why couldn't dragonknights too ?

    They can do that.

    Im saying they need a buffl. Dk's need to be more op
  • Anhedonie
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Well, magdk is really weak now. Whip is called "a wet noodle" for a reason and new skill cost increase doesn't help either.


    That's one hard hitting wet noodle then. It hits as hard as a Swallow Soul on my MagBlade (similar SD and Magicka Values)

    lol
    SS hits much harder with the same gear set. And it costs less 1100 magicka.

    Not ot mention that whip is a melee attack and ss is ranged. Want to compare the damage of concealed weapon to whip's? :)

    Edited by Anhedonie on June 21, 2016 1:15AM
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    gotta love troll threads.

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    Sounds like someone isn't in touch with their dk side. I'll just leave this here...

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    Sounds like someone isn't in touch with their dk side. I'll just leave this here...

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    Awww you missed the point.

    Better luck next time
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Well, magdk is really weak now. Whip is called "a wet noodle" for a reason and new skill cost increase doesn't help either.


    That's one hard hitting wet noodle then. It hits as hard as a Swallow Soul on my MagBlade (similar SD and Magicka Values)

    lol
    SS hits much harder with the same gear set. And it costs less 1100 magicka.

    With 2606 SD and 41515 Magicka on MagBlade: Swallow Soul hits for 8629 Damage
    With 2172 SD and 41352 Magicka on Mag DK: Flame Lash hits for 8421 Damage

    Like I said: that's one hard hitting wet noodle

    PS: I have SS too, in case you want proof
    PS2: CP spread is exactly the same for both of them too
    PS3 (Edit): CW on MagBlade hits for 9314 Damage. But still: with 500 extra SD on Mag DK, Flame Lash would be between the values of CW and Swallow Soul. It still hits hard, can apply burn DoT and chance for stronger Lash + self heal.
    Edited by Tryxus on June 21, 2016 1:25AM
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    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Sounds like someone isn't in touch with their dk side. I'll just leave this here...

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    Awww you missed the point.

    Better luck next time

    What point? This is just another whine thread about class imbalance lol but unlike the others some seem to be able to contest otherwise.
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 21, 2016 1:20AM
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    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Sounds like someone isn't in touch with their dk side. I'll just leave this here...

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    Awww you missed the point.

    Better luck next time

    What point? This is just another whine thread about class imbalance lol but unlike the others some seem to be able to contest otherwise.

    No its a comedy thread.

    "Lets take the most powerful class and buff it and then nerf the others: a lesson in ZOS logic thread" as i have come to call it
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    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Sounds like someone isn't in touch with their dk side. I'll just leave this here...

    Learn%20to%20Play4228.jpg

    Awww you missed the point.

    Better luck next time

    What point? This is just another whine thread about class imbalance lol but unlike the others some seem to be able to contest otherwise.

    No its a comedy thread.

    "Lets take the most powerful class and buff it and then nerf the others: a lesson in ZOS logic thread" as i have come to call it

    Potato Potahto :p
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 21, 2016 1:24AM
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    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Sounds like someone isn't in touch with their dk side. I'll just leave this here...

    Learn%20to%20Play4228.jpg

    Awww you missed the point.

    Better luck next time

    What point? This is just another whine thread about class imbalance lol but unlike the others some seem to be able to contest otherwise.

    No its a comedy thread.

    "Lets take the most powerful class and buff it and then nerf the others: a lesson in ZOS logic thread" as i have come to call it

    Potato Potahto :p

    Dude I know you may not agree with him but you don't have to act rude about it.

    I personally want mag DKs to he buffed but leave sorcs alone.

    I used to think you're acting but I guess this is how you really are.
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    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Sounds like someone isn't in touch with their dk side. I'll just leave this here...

    Learn%20to%20Play4228.jpg

    Awww you missed the point.

    Better luck next time

    What point? This is just another whine thread about class imbalance lol but unlike the others some seem to be able to contest otherwise.

    No its a comedy thread.

    "Lets take the most powerful class and buff it and then nerf the others: a lesson in ZOS logic thread" as i have come to call it

    Potato Potahto :p

    Dude I know you may not agree with him but you don't have to act rude about it.

    I personally want mag DKs to he buffed but leave sorcs alone.

    I used to think you're acting but I guess this is how you really are.

    OP is saying DKs need buffing because they are too weak. Others beg to differ. Given the statements made thus far and the fact OP has provided NO evidence to back his case makes this thread lean in favor of people saying Magicka DK is NOT underpowered. Until proven otherwise this thread is basically OP whining about DKs because they aren't making proper use of their own. When you see threads like these all the time you would develop the same skepticism too.
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 21, 2016 1:52AM
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    Build Correctly.

    If you have 30k Mag, 30% crit and 1.5-2k spell power you build wrong.

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    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Sounds like someone isn't in touch with their dk side. I'll just leave this here...

    Learn%20to%20Play4228.jpg

    Awww you missed the point.

    Better luck next time

    What point? This is just another whine thread about class imbalance lol but unlike the others some seem to be able to contest otherwise.

    No its a comedy thread.

    "Lets take the most powerful class and buff it and then nerf the others: a lesson in ZOS logic thread" as i have come to call it

    Potato Potahto :p

    Dude I know you may not agree with him but you don't have to act rude about it.

    I personally want mag DKs to he buffed but leave sorcs alone.

    I used to think you're acting but I guess this is how you really are.

    OP is saying DKs need buffing because they are too weak. Others beg to differ. Given the statements made thus far and the fact OP has provided NO evidence to back his case makes this thread lean in favor of people saying Magicka DK is NOT underpowered. Until proven otherwise this thread is basically OP whining about DKs because they aren't making proper use of their own. When you see threads like these all the time you would develop the same skepticism too.

    I see, you have a point there but remember this is the Eso community not the destiny one so we should help eachother out instead of bashing one another

    Maybe the OP needs help with his builds.
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    Casterial wrote: »
    Build Correctly.

    If you have 30k Mag, 30% crit and 1.5-2k spell power you build wrong.

    Goal: 33+k Magicka, 45%+ Crit, 2.5k+ Spell damage Unbuffed w/ food.

    I'm a Mag DK sitting on 33-34k magicka, 70% crit and 2.3k spell damage Unbuffed, obviously with thief Mundas stone but tonight I'm going to swap with apprentice Mundas stone and check the results because I feel my spell damage isn't as high as is could be, but I'm scared to see how much crit I lose lol. I run infused on head chest and legs and the rest divines
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    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Sounds like someone isn't in touch with their dk side. I'll just leave this here...

    Learn%20to%20Play4228.jpg

    Awww you missed the point.

    Better luck next time

    What point? This is just another whine thread about class imbalance lol but unlike the others some seem to be able to contest otherwise.

    No its a comedy thread.

    "Lets take the most powerful class and buff it and then nerf the others: a lesson in ZOS logic thread" as i have come to call it

    Potato Potahto :p

    Dude I know you may not agree with him but you don't have to act rude about it.

    I personally want mag DKs to he buffed but leave sorcs alone.

    I used to think you're acting but I guess this is how you really are.

    OP is saying DKs need buffing because they are too weak. Others beg to differ. Given the statements made thus far and the fact OP has provided NO evidence to back his case makes this thread lean in favor of people saying Magicka DK is NOT underpowered. Until proven otherwise this thread is basically OP whining about DKs because they aren't making proper use of their own. When you see threads like these all the time you would develop the same skepticism too.

    I see, you have a point there but remember this is the Eso community not the destiny one so we should help eachother out instead of bashing one another

    Maybe the OP needs help with his builds.

    Perhaps, but there are plenty here that would criticize him more bluntly than I did with my snarky L2P post due to his approach. In order to assist him we must know his race at the very least. His preferences would help too.
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 21, 2016 2:08AM
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    Fignutz821 wrote: »
    stam DK has some of the highest DPS in the game right now...

    Still means nothing if you're magics based. Had to switch my magic based Dk to Stam 2h because I couldn't do anything against others in low level pvp. Stam would destroy me too fast to be a serious threat.
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    Clarkieson wrote: »
    Please buff.

    And nerf sorcs.

    Thast is all

    Agreed. Sorcs RD spam in pvp is crazy. They love RD so much, let them keep it. But nerf everything else sorcs have and love to the ground! To the ground I say!
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    Wow.
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    Ragnaarok wrote: »
    Casterial wrote: »
    Build Correctly.

    If you have 30k Mag, 30% crit and 1.5-2k spell power you build wrong.

    Goal: 33+k Magicka, 45%+ Crit, 2.5k+ Spell damage Unbuffed w/ food.

    I'm a Mag DK sitting on 33-34k magicka, 70% crit and 2.3k spell damage Unbuffed, obviously with thief Mundas stone but tonight I'm going to swap with apprentice Mundas stone and check the results because I feel my spell damage isn't as high as is could be, but I'm scared to see how much crit I lose lol. I run infused on head chest and legs and the rest divines

    Not here to troll but you are a little low on everything.
    40k magika 3k spell damage and 60% crit are easy to get if you have the correct race/build/skills.
    Anyway magika dk's are underpowered in PVP not in PVE
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