No Console Maintenence Next Week? Really?

Maintenance for the week of March 17:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – March 17
• Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – March 19, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
• PlayStation®: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – March 19, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
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I'm assuming that's a system error or they just haven't posted a notice yet, since skipping another week without fixing the trainwreck that has been DB console DLC (PC ain't doing so hot, either) would be strange. Is it standard procedure for things to get announced later in the weekend?
Edited by Peekachu99 on June 18, 2016 11:34PM
  • UltimaJoe777
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    They cannot patch consoles as they see fit due to Sony and Microsoft. The process of getting the patch validated and punched through takes time.
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    They cannot patch consoles as they see fit due to Sony and Microsoft. The process of getting the patch validated and punched through takes time.

    How do DCUO, FFXIV, Warframe, Smite and Paragon do it, then? Black magic? Voodoo?
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    Peekachu99 wrote: »

    How do DCUO, FFXIV, Warframe, Smite and Paragon do it, then? Black magic? Voodoo?

    Why don't you ask them?
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    Why don't you ask them?

    What a strange, obtuse and smarmy question. Why would I ask them? Shouldn't publishers know how to get their patches signed and pushed through? It's not my job. Point is, same day multiplatform patches are the norm with games already on PS4.
    Edited by Peekachu99 on June 18, 2016 10:47PM
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    Peekachu99 wrote: »

    What a strange, obtuse and smarmy question. Why would I ask them? Shouldn't publishers know how to get their patches signed and pushed through? It's not my job. Point is, same day multiplatform patches are the norm with games already on PS4.

    The publishers do know how. That isn't the issue. If you wish to know why those games can push their patches through faster than ESO's (assuming they do) then your business is with Microsoft and Sony, not Zenimax.
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    Zenimax isn't held to the same standard on consoles as they are on PC. Figure that one out.
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    The publishers do know how. That isn't the issue. If you wish to know why those games can push their patches through faster than ESO's (assuming they do) then your business is with Microsoft and Sony, not Zenimax.

    It's not my question to ask. ZoS should be figuring that out with Sony/MS. How does this keep sailing over your head? I'm the consumer. They are the provider. Logistics are not my business and not the topic of this post.

    P.S. Oh, and there's no "assuming they do..." Patches for major console MMORPGs launch day and date with PC versions. Go check the dates for DCUO and FFXIV patch drops if you don't believe me. Even stuff like Dark Souls 3 (not an MMORPG) has synchronized patching.
    Edited by Peekachu99 on June 18, 2016 10:59PM
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    Paradisiac wrote: »
    Zenimax isn't held to the same standard on consoles as they are on PC. Figure that one out.

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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Peekachu99 wrote: »

    It's not my question to ask. ZoS should be figuring that out with Sony/MS. How does this keep sailing over your head? I'm the consumer. They are the provider. Logistics are not my business and not the topic of this post.

    P.S. Oh, and there's no "assuming they do..." Patches for major console MMORPGs launch day and date with PC versions. Go check the dates for DCUO and FFXIV patch drops if you don't believe me. Every stuff like Dark Souls 3 (not an MMORPG) has synchronized patching.

    Zenimax also doesn't have complete control over what goes through consoles. What you download on PC is your concern but what you download on consoles is Microsoft and Sony's concern and thus there are procedures that must be followed. If Microsoft and Sony were able to speed this up it would be done but until then there is nothing Zenimax can do.
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  • ArchMikem
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    As far as I see it, PC got the update first. They get the patch maintenance first.
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    As far as I see it, PC got the update first. They get the patch maintenance first.

    PC has had 2 or 3 patches already (and it's still having issues). ZoS gave console peasants the version of the DLC that they knew was broken.
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    Zenimax also doesn't have complete control over what goes through consoles. What you download on PC is your concern but what you download on consoles is Microsoft and Sony's concern and thus there are procedures that must be followed. If Microsoft and Sony were able to speed this up it would be done but until then there is nothing Zenimax can do.

    But Sony and MS are able to speed it up, and I've given you several examples of such that you continue to ignore. Why isn't ZoS making this a priority?
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    Peekachu99 wrote: »

    But Sony and MS are able to speed it up, and I've given you several examples of such that you continue to ignore. Why isn't ZoS making this a priority?

    Because as I've said in like every post so far it's out of their hands.

    Believe me we all hate this dreadful lag but all we can do is wait.
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 18, 2016 11:03PM
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    Just get a pc.
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    Because as I've said in like every post so far it's out of their hands.

    Believe me we all hate this dreadful lag but all we can do is wait.

    So every other publisher under the sun is capable of patching their games, but ZoS is, by your own account, incapable, and that's okay? I don't understand the point you're trying to make. Anyway, this has gone far off course from the question I had asked. I'll take it that there's no plans for maintenance, urgency or concern happening and leave it at that.
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    Just get a pc.

    I play the game on PC (toon is a transfer), but the hacks and bots made it unbearable.
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    Because as I've said in like every post so far it's out of their hands.

    Believe me we all hate this dreadful lag but all we can do is wait.

    It's really not out of thier hands now. I'm sure they have a contact at MS they can call or mail and say look we've *** up 1000s of people are kicking off and we need to fix this please push this patch to live asap. It's xbox live not the Russian KGB. If that's what zos said then it's a lie, same thing as anyone you've spoken to over the phone or in a shop and got the response of "there is nothing more we can do at this time" really?! There is always something more...what matters is how much you really want a better outcome or of your happy to let it sit for a while.
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    Peekachu99 wrote: »

    So every other publisher under the sun is capable of patching their games, but ZoS is, by your own account, incapable, and that's okay? I don't understand the point you're trying to make. Anyway, this has gone far off course from the question I had asked. I'll take it that there's no plans for maintenance, urgency or concern happening and leave it at that.

    I'll explain with roleplay then.

    Zenimax: Ok we have the patch ready for consoles. Now to run it by Microsoft and Sony!
    Microsoft and Sony: Ok we can have your patch validated in about one or two weeks.
    Zenimax: Alright... We will put it through once you validate it.
    *1 week later*
    Community: WHAT'S TAKING SO LONG FOR OUR PATCH?!
    Zenimax: Sorry still waiting on validation. Our hands are tied but we will have it through asap!
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    It be a update the week after next it take 2 weeks to get the patch through so this is week 1 and next week is week 2 so the following week 3 we should get the fixes.So let's all have fun with this horrible update that completely broke our game.
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    I'll explain with roleplay then.

    Zenimax: Ok we have the patch ready for consoles. Now to run it by Microsoft and Sony!
    Microsoft and Sony: Ok we can have your patch validated in about one or two weeks.
    Zenimax: Alright... We will put it through once you validate it.
    *1 week later*
    Community: WHAT'S TAKING SO LONG FOR OUR PATCH?!
    Zenimax: Sorry still waiting on validation. Our hands are tied but we will have it through asap!

    Only these are big businesses and that's not how they talk, how they negotiate around nonexistent enforcements, or anything else you just roleplayed. Day and date cross platform patches happen; from indies to EA and SE. It's not a miracle when they do. The end.

    The absolute, apathetic lack of communication to the players/ customers is appalling. If there is a plan, let people know. There's some serious Stolkholm Syndrome going on if people think the opposite is normal or healthy for a business.
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    Peekachu99 wrote: »

    Only these are big businesses and that's not how they talk, how they negotiate around nonexistent enforcements, or anything else you just roleplayed. Day and date cross platform patches happen; from indies to EA and SE. It's not a miracle when they do. The end.

    The absolute, apathetic lack of communication to the players/ customers is appalling. If there is a plan, let people know. There's some serious Stolkholm Syndrome going on if people think the opposite is normal or healthy for a business.

    Oh dear god... I was speaking in laman's terms dude. If you still don't get it at this point then at least I tried.
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 18, 2016 11:21PM
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    Molag_Crow wrote: »

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    LOL... again another +1. You are on a roll today.
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    LOL... again another +1. You are on a roll today.

    This old gif brought to mind the Miley Cirus/ Wrecking Ball/ Chatroulette video that I saw, for the first time ever, on this forum.

    Suddenly all is good again. We must embrace the bugs and stay the course, it seems. G'night.
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