Graphic Settings for Console! (Fix FPS)

Vaoh

Consoles currently run ESO on (I believe) High graphics settings, with a few things probably set to Medium or Ultra.

My request is to give PS4 players and Xbox One players the ability, like PC players, to fine tune their graphics in order to either have better visuals or Frames Per Second (FPS).

Why do I ask this? Well, if you play on console, multiple loading screens in populated towns and severely low FPS in group content (or vMA) has been a thing and seems to get worse every patch. Were talking ~10FPS sometimes of the promised stable 30FPS.

I don't need 60FPS, or 50FPS, or 40FPS. I simply want some solid 30FPS running on my game.

Veteran Dungeons, PvP, walking in populated towns, walking in unpopulated towns, Maelstrom Arena, walking in more populated zones, Trial content, whatever..... the FPS has dropped throughout most everything in the game and I'm getting tired of it.

Let me set my graphics to Medium instead of High to avoid load screens and have a stable 30FPS experience instead of typical 15FPS in Wayrest or trials. Let me enjoy the game without looking at a slideshow. Please ZOS!

Anyone else want consoles to be given the ability to change graphics settings (even if to an extent like no disabling grass)? I don't see why not.

Epona222

You could always get a PC instead.

(Sorry, someone was going to do it, and at least I wasn't rude or insulting).

Smiley here to indicate my good nature in this response

Vaoh

Yes

Epona222 wrote: »

You could always get a PC instead.

(Sorry, someone was going to do it, and at least I wasn't rude or insulting).

Smiley here to indicate my good nature in this response

I knew it was coming..... +1 for making it the first comment though

KhajiitiLizard

Well usually console games don't need graphics settings because the devs usually are competent enough to actually tune the game to the hardware... except ZOS. lol

Vaoh

Yes

If need be I can provide some video of this issue. Very easy to record since I only need to login to show off the problem, but who wants to watch that? Lol

BalticBlues

No

I voted "NO" because with individual settings it would be even harder for the devs to figure the plethora of console bugs out. The current console version is a MESS after the DB update, for example with loadings screens every 10 steps. If ZOS cannot even test this game for just ONE setting before release, how could they do for individual settings?

Wollust

PC MASTERRACE

joke hehe
Kinda weird thatyou can't adjust graphics. I always thought that's a thing with newer consoles. Learned something new again.

KhajiitiLizard

It's more that you shouldn't need to... it's not like PC where there are huge hardware differences... consoles were supposed to be the ultimate plug-n-play for video games. Set it and forget it. The truth is that ZOS failed to optimize the game for consoles.

Neirymn

No

I mostly play on console so I don't have to worry about graphics settings, I find that weird on console to have to go through the graphic settings to play a game that should be running just fine. I played FFXI on Xbox 360 and there was some lag on towns and very crowded zones, so I can understand that there is some lag sometimes in a MMO on console, but not that much...

ZOS should keep trying to optimize the game for everyone, I don't like to see black shapes instead of player charcaters when I'm travelling too fast in towns or textures taking some time to pop, there is always lag when a lot of players are in one area, I can live with that but it should be minimized. I'd like that player characters load after NPC's in PVE zones and that they pop like NPCs do, not as black shapes, that's fine in PVP areas when you don't want to be killed by invisible players but I don't like it in PVE zones.

And almost every player in the game have a vanity pet following them, I think it doesn't help with the lag. An option to hide other player's pets and sounds could help a bit, don't you think ? I guess some players would not be happy with that, as they are so proud of having some rare pets that they want everyone to see them. :P

Also, a lot of players return to the game when a new patch is added to play the DLC or see how the game has changed, it may explain why there is always some issues with loading times and so on, but still.

NewBlacksmurf

Yes

I'm voting yes but for different reasons. I'm thinking towards new console hardware a year or so from now.

Trashyratchet

No

KhajiitiLizard wrote: »

Well usually console games don't need graphics settings because the devs usually are competent enough to actually tune the game to the hardware... except ZOS. lol

This exactly.

Averya_Teira

Yes

I'm all for it if it reduces FPS drops, but the main problem is, this shouldn't happen at all In the first place... they have the exact Specifics of the PS4, the game should be made to run perfectly with them...

Vaoh

Yes

••• To those of you voting "No" because console shouldn't ever need these options: I have news for you!

Players can either:
1. Never touch these settings, and deal with unfixable and terrible performance, which severely messes up FPS anywhere from walking in unpopulated cities to running trials. Horrible performance everywhere!
2. Choose to play with a better Framerate, which we need to lower graphics for. ZOS will not fix it. Simple as that, since it has only gotten progressively worse every new DLC release.

It is a massive problem and IT IS happening. No avoiding it. Let's get this implemented so PS4 and Xbox One players can at least run end-game trial content on higher than 10FPS...

Peekachu99

No

Consoles offer fixed specs. If you want better FPS or performance, a hardware upgrade, like the now no-longer-rumoured PS Neo, is what ZoS needs to tailor their code for. FIRST, they need to get the base PS4 version back to reasonable functionality though.

Vaoh

Yes

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Consoles offer fixed specs. If you want better FPS or performance, a hardware upgrade, like the now no-longer-rumoured PS Neo, is what ZoS needs to tailor their code for. FIRST, they need to get the base PS4 version back to reasonable functionality though.

You've missed the point. The base game PS4 version cannot get back to the reasonable functionality we saw at launch.

The chances of ZOS fixing console performance issues are as good as them making 200+ players on screen with no lag in PvP (try finding 30 people in town without black silhouettes)!

We should not NEED a much more powerful PS4 to run the game normally! The PS Neo should give us 60FPS or much better performance, not the same performance we were promised our normal PS4's could do. This is ZOS messing up and not having plans to fix the issue.

Have you played in the past few days or run trials? It's really, really bad right now...

kylewwefan

No

? This games graphics don't come close to stressing either console. It's something else not working so good that causes problems.

shadowwraith666

No

Graphics settings won't solve the problem of fps drops from server lag.

Vaoh

Yes

These results are surprising me. A popular idea in-game is unpopular on the forums

Graphics setting do contribute to the FPS. Not all serverside, just console specs no longer being taken into account.

RAGUNAnoOne

Yes

shadowwraith666 wrote: »

Graphics settings won't solve the problem of fps drops from server lag.

Server lag and FPS issues are 2 different things with 2 different effects you can have massive lag and perfect FPS of vice versa.

Vaoh

Yes

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

shadowwraith666 wrote: »

Graphics settings won't solve the problem of fps drops from server lag.

Server lag and FPS issues are 2 different things with 2 different effects you can have massive lag and perfect FPS of vice versa.

Exactly.

I'm starting to believe misinformation is causing people to pick No, while the other people picking No are choosing it because console shouldn't need it.

It's unfortunate. We never should need to have this option but honestly we need to have it now. ~10FPS in anything is not okay

Jazbay_Grape

Yes

I'm good with trying anything to fix this mess

Sallington

Eventually consoles will evolve to just being regular ol' gaming PCs. I thought the whole point of consoles was "just plug it in and it just works?"

Peekachu99

No

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I'm voting yes but for different reasons. I'm thinking towards new console hardware a year or so from now.

Doncellius wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Consoles offer fixed specs. If you want better FPS or performance, a hardware upgrade, like the now no-longer-rumoured PS Neo, is what ZoS needs to tailor their code for. FIRST, they need to get the base PS4 version back to reasonable functionality though.

You've missed the point. The base game PS4 version cannot get back to the reasonable functionality we saw at launch.

The chances of ZOS fixing console performance issues are as good as them making 200+ players on screen with no lag in PvP (try finding 30 people in town without black silhouettes)!

We should not NEED a much more powerful PS4 to run the game normally! The PS Neo should give us 60FPS or much better performance, not the same performance we were promised our normal PS4's could do. This is ZOS messing up and not having plans to fix the issue.

Have you played in the past few days or run trials? It's really, really bad right now...

I haven't missed the point. FFXIV, for example, which is argueably more complex than this game as well as fully multiplatform, does perfectly fine on PS3. A PS3. ZoS needs to get their development ship in order and squash whatever bugs they've introduced with DB. Also, I'm the one who started the "DB Master Bug" thread, so yes, I'm quite aware of the performance issues plaguing the game which were NOT present before this patch. Hypothetical Neo performance and base PS4 performance are, and should be, viewed as separate targets--don't bring fear mongering and supposition into the dialog.

I don't think that giving ZoS the option to say, "Well, our programming sucks so let's just give the plebes some options to kill textures, lighting and details, in the hopes that fixes sumfin", is a good idea. They need to restore the functionality pre-DB. Period. Don't give them an escape clause.

It doesn't help being smarmy when people are actually in your corner.

socivL

Doncellius wrote: »

If need be I can provide some video of this issue. Very easy to record since I only need to login to show off the problem, but who wants to watch that? Lol

i'd like watch.
it'd give me the same / similiar feelings of emotions you are experiencing.
and our life, the human life, is about sharing those experiences so we can relate.

socivL

Jazbay_Grape wrote: »

I'm good with trying anything to fix this mess

ANY.....
THING.....

AmakarGranaen

Yes

Epona222 wrote: »

You could always get a PC instead.

(Sorry, someone was going to do it, and at least I wasn't rude or insulting).

Smiley here to indicate my good nature in this response

I actually have ESO on PC as well, but for some f****d up reason i prefer to play on console.

boldscot

The graphics have been the same since launch, the performance however is getting worse each patch. The current performance issues have no doubt been caused by the recent update. Graphic settings probably won't help much, the game doesn't even look that good on PS4. There are no densely wooded areas and grass is already at a minimum in the world, none of that will help anyway when it's the cities that lag the most.
Don't worry though I'm sure the band aid fixes are on the way.

LordSock

Yes

Yeah something needs to be done about the lag. Instance some zones please. I don't need 100 people in my line of sight. Put that "megaserver" technology to use.

Pigment

No

Do yourself a favor, and play on PC. I recently played console version for 10 minutes and was horrified.

WynonaStealth

No

Sorry bud lowering the graphics won't help. The issues we've been having are server side stability issues aka lag. I play on all platforms pretty decent pc too. To have 30 or more fps in things like pvp and trials, you need a BEAST rig. The issues we've been facing for the past couple months are due to decaying server performance. Honestly, for the specs we have in our consoles, pvp runs GREAT!!! When the server side issues are fixed that is. At this point, I don't know if that's something we can look foward to or not. Several popular threads all with critical errors And no response from ZOS. My guess is they plan to maybe release another dlc or 2 and that is it. No fixes for anything just more crap for us to spend money on then they will let the game run its very short course and chalk it up to a loss

Vaoh

Yes

WynonaStealth wrote: »

Sorry bud lowering the graphics won't help. The issues we've been having are server side stability issues aka lag. I play on all platforms pretty decent pc too. To have 30 or more fps in things like pvp and trials, you need a BEAST rig. The issues we've been facing for the past couple months are due to decaying server performance. Honestly, for the specs we have in our consoles, pvp runs GREAT!!! When the server side issues are fixed that is. At this point, I don't know if that's something we can look foward to or not. Several popular threads all with critical errors And no response from ZOS. My guess is they plan to maybe release another dlc or 2 and that is it. No fixes for anything just more crap for us to spend money on then they will let the game run its very short course and chalk it up to a loss

Being able to adjust how detailed your game looks does help performance. It's not insta-100% fix button, but being able to get an extra 5FPS-10FPS in trials when the game runs at 10FPS is fantastic. Read above man. It will help! Lag and serverside performance problems can happen without massive FPS drops, but our consoles aren't strong enough to deal with serverside lag more efficiently unless graphics are lowered.

Also lots of doom and gloom in your post. Believe me, ZOS has tons of good stuff planned which still hasn't been released. Simply from the stuff we already knew about for over a year, ESO has plenty left to create.

This is not even mentioning things we datamined very recently thanks to Dark Brotherhood.... aka Battlegrounds/City PvP/Vvardenfell.