So does everyone do less damage now?

Strider_Roshin

Noticed my Surprise Attack went from going 10,156 damage to doing around 9,600. Has there been a decrease in damage across the board or did Stamblades get a stealth nerf. Also I noticed that abilities cost a good bit more as well, but that has already been discussed.

FloppyTouch

These are hard times for stamblades

/end sarcasm

Strider_Roshin

FloppyTouch wrote: »

These are hard times for stamblades

/end sarcasm

Yeah it was a question, not an excuse to leave a whiney comment.

WldKarde

Did you reset all of your CP's?

LegacyDM

Oddly enough I'm s mageblade and lost damage too. My swallow soul, sap essence, cripple, and lotus fan all lost damage and that's with the nirnhoned damage increase!

Yinmaigao

I haven't really noticed any major differences... Did you double check your CP allocation and gear? (Since the CPs were reset and if you were below VR16 with more than 160 CP, you instantly level-capped).

Just a couple suggestions.

khele23eb17_ESO

FloppyTouch wrote: »

These are hard times for stamblades

/end sarcasm

Theres more to this game than pvp and burst damage.

Lenikus

They did a thing with traits, and when they messed the mob's level and scaling they surely chnged numbers in their resistances as well

SublimeSparo

Nirnhoned is a damage loss compared to old Nirnhoned

Eshelmen

Lost 2k damage on my Dark Flare.
Effing pissed.

Kalante

same here

widowmakerx

Lost all templar dps went from 1605 on sweeps to 1250 wtf dark flare and ice comet are less damage...... also my nirnhoned armor is useless not sure where to go with my alter templar

Amdar_Godkiller

Not sure about nightblades specifically, but it seems fewer skills double dip in CP now, particularly in relation to thaumaturge and elemental expert/Mighty.

Strider_Roshin

Eshelmen wrote: »

Lost 2k damage on my Dark Flare.
Effing pissed.

widowmakerx wrote: »

Lost all templar dps went from 1605 on sweeps to 1250 wtf dark flare and ice comet are less damage...... also my nirnhoned armor is useless not sure where to go with my alter templar

I see, so it looks like this is something that happened to all of us. Well in that case I'm not too upset since that means relatively we all do that same amount of damage. There's just a slightly longer time to kill now.

DKsUnite

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Eshelmen wrote: »

Lost 2k damage on my Dark Flare.
Effing pissed.

widowmakerx wrote: »

Lost all templar dps went from 1605 on sweeps to 1250 wtf dark flare and ice comet are less damage...... also my nirnhoned armor is useless not sure where to go with my alter templar

I see, so it looks like this is something that happened to all of us. Well in that case I'm not too upset since that means relatively we all do that same amount of damage. There's just a slightly longer time to kill now.

which isnt really a bad thing (Y)

Wollust

Well damage in PvP is definitely higher than pre DB. Mainly because of armor penetration being out of control.

Buffler

Suprise att and ambush were both nerfed by 4.5% and 6.5% respectively

DannyLV702

My stamblade was doing so much damage tonight I was actually shocked.

Ep1kMalware

widowmakerx wrote: »

Lost all templar dps went from 1605 on sweeps to 1250 wtf dark flare and ice comet are less damage...... also my nirnhoned armor is useless not sure where to go with my alter templar

my jabs went from 2200-1600. But that's a known bug, so in 6 months we'll have it workig again.

AndyTGD

Yeah, I was wondering if I was just imagining it, but it appears Nightblade has taken a bit of a hit. Now, if only I could narrow down the list to where the nerfed abilities lie without wasting several weeks of my life.... >_>

danno8

Buffler wrote: »

Suprise att and ambush were both nerfed by 4.5% and 6.5% respectively

That was Death Stroke and Ambush, not SA.

Most likely this has to do with weapon/armor traits have changed and the OP is unaware.

Sausage

It happens in every MMORPG, dps always get asskicked in the end, eventually they end up singing and holding each other's hand to the sunset and they are happy, you're good player if you can heal yourself, but you're bad if you know how to kill, or you're bad player if you put dmg stuff in your gear, but you're pro if you put impenetrable. Strange world but that how it goes.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

My tool tip value on DF did go down a bit but the 40 extra CP balanced it out. I felt like I was hitting like a truck last night in IC while mowing through people. May I recommend a max magic build instead of a max spell power build. It's working great for me. I'm at roughly 40,200 with 3088 SP while buffed at 429 CP.

leepalmer95

Sausage wrote: »

It happens in every MMORPG, eventually they end up singing and holding each other's hand to the sunset and they are happy, you're good player if you can heal yourself, but you're bad if you know how to kill, or you're bad player if you put dmg stuff in your gear, but you're pro if you put impenetrable. Strange world but that how it goes.

The whole impen thing is about people crying about being hit for a high dmg crit and then refusing the use a trait thet reduces that dmg by a lot...

THEDKEXPERIENCE

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

It happens in every MMORPG, eventually they end up singing and holding each other's hand to the sunset and they are happy, you're good player if you can heal yourself, but you're bad if you know how to kill, or you're bad player if you put dmg stuff in your gear, but you're pro if you put impenetrable. Strange world but that how it goes.

The whole impen thing is about people crying about being hit for a high dmg crit and then refusing the use a trait thet reduces that dmg by a lot...

This. Impen is garbage. Go infused or divines. Burn them down. Best defense is a good offense. My crit resist is 68, total. I do perfectly fine. I used to run a heavy resistance build and changing to full out DPS basically resulted in me trading 5% more deaths for 50% more kills.

DannyLV702

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

It happens in every MMORPG, eventually they end up singing and holding each other's hand to the sunset and they are happy, you're good player if you can heal yourself, but you're bad if you know how to kill, or you're bad player if you put dmg stuff in your gear, but you're pro if you put impenetrable. Strange world but that how it goes.

The whole impen thing is about people crying about being hit for a high dmg crit and then refusing the use a trait thet reduces that dmg by a lot...

This. Impen is garbage. Go infused or divines. Burn them down. Best defense is a good offense. My crit resist is 68, total. I do perfectly fine. I used to run a heavy resistance build and changing to full out DPS basically resulted in me trading 5% more deaths for 50% more kills.

Yeah this works if you're a full time stealth ganker. I like to be out in the open waiting for a challenge, and survive the attack from "all divines" rocking players and bury them six feet deep

THEDKEXPERIENCE

DannyLV702 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

It happens in every MMORPG, eventually they end up singing and holding each other's hand to the sunset and they are happy, you're good player if you can heal yourself, but you're bad if you know how to kill, or you're bad player if you put dmg stuff in your gear, but you're pro if you put impenetrable. Strange world but that how it goes.

The whole impen thing is about people crying about being hit for a high dmg crit and then refusing the use a trait thet reduces that dmg by a lot...

This. Impen is garbage. Go infused or divines. Burn them down. Best defense is a good offense. My crit resist is 68, total. I do perfectly fine. I used to run a heavy resistance build and changing to full out DPS basically resulted in me trading 5% more deaths for 50% more kills.

Yeah this works if you're a full time stealth ganker. I like to be out in the open waiting for a challenge, and survive the attack from "all divines" rocking players and bury them six feet deep

I'm a Templar who wears an obnoxious gold outfit, often shooting bright lasers which yell out "look at that guy". The only time I'm in stealth is when I pop an invisibility potion to make YOLO run into a group to burn a trebuchet.

I survive by using breath of life and mist form. No shields, and I barely block. That said, I do have weaknesses. I'll be the first to admit it. The stereotypical wrecking blow spammer is my Kryptonite but that's the price I've chosen to pay.

Ganking NBs are usually dealt with by spamming BoL, using ice comet, and then radiant oppression. High damage magic users are dealt with using mist form because it eats 75% of damage. Another weakness of my build is that it is not very good in 1 on 1 situations because I'm basically a roving artillery, but I absolutely hold my own. Give me a few meat shields and I'll leave a pile of bodies in my path.

Here is the most important thing to know. Every build has a weakness. I personally believe that you're better suited making what you do well better than trying to passively make what your opponents do worse. Crit resist is something that only helps some of the time and really only serves to make you die slower. I think having a trait that is always helping is a better choice. Besides it's much easier to be survivable when your opponent is dead first.

Strider_Roshin

danno8 wrote: »

Buffler wrote: »

Suprise att and ambush were both nerfed by 4.5% and 6.5% respectively

That was Death Stroke and Ambush, not SA.

Most likely this has to do with weapon/armor traits have changed and the OP is unaware.

I use 3 agility, 1 kena, 5 Hunding's, and 2 Leki. All of my jewelry is robust and glyphed with weapon damage. All of my glyphs are gold, I use tri-stat on my head, chest, and legs; I only use stamina on the smaller pieces. What trait would alter my damage?

Volkodav

I do know that my DK is no longer very effective other than gaining those CPs fast.
He doesnt seem to have the same punch he used to have when throwing out his fist skill.
My Stamina NBs seem to be fine though.

Vaoh

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Noticed my Surprise Attack went from going 10,156 damage to doing around 9,600. Has there been a decrease in damage across the board or did Stamblades get a stealth nerf. Also I noticed that abilities cost a good bit more as well, but that has already been discussed.

I remember a thread (I believe by blabafat) shorty after DB PC release saying that damage seemed to have increased in PvP....

Have you fixed your CPs?

Strider_Roshin

Doncellius wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Noticed my Surprise Attack went from going 10,156 damage to doing around 9,600. Has there been a decrease in damage across the board or did Stamblades get a stealth nerf. Also I noticed that abilities cost a good bit more as well, but that has already been discussed.

I remember a thread (I believe by blabafat) shorty after DB PC release saying that damage seemed to have increased in PvP....

Have you fixed your CPs?

Of course, it was the first thing I did :-)