Disillusioned player

SienneYviete

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Oh waaaaaa. Cry me a river. This game is great. Go do something else. Enough of these posts. There are THOUSANDS of people who love this game. Bleh.

NO

THEDKEXPERIENCE

SienneYviete wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Oh waaaaaa. Cry me a river. This game is great. Go do something else. Enough of these posts. There are THOUSANDS of people who love this game. Bleh.

NO

Top notch. I'll post in any thread I please, especially when it's a "I quit thread" that'll get locked soon.

Please just leave the game. The thousands of people who enjoy it every night don't need you.

If you have a constructive criticism then post it and discuss it. Since you have none, please get off your attention needing soap box and leave us alone.

flguy147ub17_ESO

PurifedBladez wrote: »

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

I cancelled too, i just cant support a company that refuses to listen to the playerbase on issues, refuses to fix bugs, launches broke DLCs every single time, PVP performance is horrible and personally i hate the CP system. Broken abilities should also not be broken for as long as they are, that is probably the most important thing in any video game, your abilites have to freaking work. This game will always be "it has potential".

I believe it had potential at a time. When I think about eso now I can't help but think what a failure it has been. I think the elder scrolls title and style of the game keeps a lot of players around but, ZOS keeps making really bad decisions. Eventually it's not gonna be worth it anymore which is what you're starting to see now with a lot of the veteran playerbase.

Agreed, if thi

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

SienneYviete wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Oh waaaaaa. Cry me a river. This game is great. Go do something else. Enough of these posts. There are THOUSANDS of people who love this game. Bleh.

NO

Top notch. I'll post in any thread I please, especially when it's a "I quit thread" that'll get locked soon.

Please just leave the game. The thousands of people who enjoy it every night don't need you.

If you have a constructive criticism then post it and discuss it. Since you have none, please get off your attention needing soap box and leave us alone.

People have posted constructive criticism on the same issues 100s of times and ZOS ignores them. And for some reason people like you think its ok for them to release another broken DLC, constant crashing, broken abilities and keep defending them. This is the worst performing game i have ever played. Yes i recently unsubbed but as long as my sub is still going cause it last for 30 days then i will voice my opinion because i gave them money for them to continue to give me a broken product.

HoloYoitsu

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

SienneYviete wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Oh waaaaaa. Cry me a river. This game is great. Go do something else. Enough of these posts. There are THOUSANDS of people who love this game. Bleh.

NO

Top notch. I'll post in any thread I please, especially when it's a "I quit thread" that'll get locked soon.

Please just leave the game. The thousands of people who enjoy it every night don't need you.

If you have a constructive criticism then post it and discuss it. Since you have none, please get off your attention needing soap box and leave us alone.

Since you clearly haven't been reading up on the issues, this is why people are upset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KosPhi1vchQ
All names edited out in the vid, so it does not break TOS. Either you were unaware of this issue, or you are simply trolling this discussion.

PurifedBladez

Right now the forums are in the greatest place they have been since the release of the game. Everyone is pissed.

CokeVoAYCE

just play for free. membership is overrated, lmao.

widowmakerx

This dlc may as well have been called " watch eso die "

lookstwice

I beat you by a day. But my sub doesn't run out until Oct. Will probably see how things are then.

FortheloveofKrist

Decided not to resub. However, I downloaded the update today (PS4) and hopped on just to see the base game changes. It's never been so laggy. Even just going through your bank inventory is glitchy and it stutters regularly. IC is the same way. Kinda sad that the game keeps getting worse in terms of performance.

That's okay. Fallout 4 has been sitting there begging to be played. Same with a couple other titles. Maybe it was time to move on anyways.

daemonios

MasterSpatula wrote: »

A quit thread with no rant about why? "Back on track" could mean anything--from "Fix PVP lag" to "let me buy a purple-spotted unicorn mount in the crowns store," depending on who and how loony you are.

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Oh waaaaaa. Cry me a river. This game is great. Go do something else. Enough of these posts. There are THOUSANDS of people who love this game. Bleh.

There's always the ones who feel compelled to post without reading.

I said in my OP that this isn't an "I quit" thread, and it isn't. I simply cancelled my sub, i.e. won't be supporting the company financially. It's possible to play for free, but I'm against it as a matter of principle. I'll see what I'll do when my still ongoing membership time expires.

As for reasons, I gave a couple half a dozen posts down the thread. I didn't feel it was necessary to justify myself, and in truth many people commenting here understood it perfectly without any reasons being given.

Arthg

I feel you, mate.
My sub won't be renewed either.
What are craft bags worth when all endgame content is crippled with cheaters and exploiters.

ZOS business model is about continuously finding fresh and innocent customers, keeping them for a few months (till they've farmed prox det in PVP so they can show off in dungeons), and spit them out.
Faithful endgame players - you've had your wallet *** already, you can bugger off.

CherryCake

Tryxus

Guess we can add this thread to that long list of "I cancelled my ESO+"-threads

daemonios

For those who actually care, I posted a more detailed explanation of why I cancelled in another thread:

daemonios wrote: »

As I stated in my thread, I cancelled my ESO+ subscription because I have no reason to believe ZOS will be bringing the game back to something I want to support financially.

The straw that broke the camel's back would be Matt Firor's interview where he basically wrote off zero-day subscribers like me. In his words, ZOS will cater the game to people who log in after a DLC is out, play for 2 weeks then leave again.

I and many others have subscribed to the game since early access and have kept our subs through the initial item dupe exploits, bot-ridden delves, teleporting crafting node farmers, then the infamous "lighting" patch that broke Cyrodiil bringing most players' FPS down to single digits, the bait-and-switch of announcing their commitment to a subscription-only model and then going F2P, the months upon months of waiting for new content which going forward will consist of tiny "episodic" DLC...

We've also seen every single aspect of the game turn into a grind and RNG fest. Remember when motifs were books you randomly found and went "oh, neat, a motif!"? With the Dwemer one they introduced 14 separate pages for each motif, and with Glass they broke each of those into 10 fragments tied to RNG and a non-repeatable daily quest. Item sets are the same, layer upon layer of RNG, coupled with BoP, meaning that regardless of the effort you put in you may never see a particular piece of gear ever...

Not to mention the constant bugs - after TG launched I couldn't res using soul gems for 3 weeks, now since DB I can't use mementos; random long loading screens, especially in Cyrodiil, inability to use doors without switching weapons, roll dodging and/or killing your firstborn, in-combat status for minutes after any action has ended, rendering you unable to mount or efficiently recover resources...

In Matt Firor's view, which for all purposes is ZOS' view, these players are worth nothing to the company. Zero. I've spent north of €400 on this game, between the purchase and keeping my sub from the very first day. Apparently they don't appreciate my patronage, nor do they need it going forward. I'm happy to comply.

Consider it my attempt to force ZOS' hand by speaking to their wallet. I know it would take many more to do the same so that some suit needs to do some explaining on dropping subs whenever the next ZOS financial period comes. But as I see it, either nothing changes, in which case I won't want to keep playing anyway, or something does change, whether due to our collective pressure or not, and I can think about resubbing.

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Funny, I get a similar expression when I think about the state of ESO. Are you spying on me?

Volkodav

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Oh waaaaaa. Cry me a river. This game is great. Go do something else. Enough of these posts. There are THOUSANDS of people who love this game. Bleh.

Awe,what a very intelligent and well thought out comment. Bleh?
Helps the matter immensely.

Balamoor

I dunno nebulous I quit posts never helped anyone.

I'm digging the hell out of ESO right now, in fact I unsubbed to every other MMO I'm playing because of ESO...YMMV I guess.

Volkodav

Balamoor wrote: »

I dunno nebulous I quit posts never helped anyone.

I'm digging the hell out of ESO right now, in fact I unsubbed to every other MMO I'm playing because of ESO...YMMV I guess.

I gave you an awesome.Awesome in the best manner of the word.

clayandaudrey_ESO

bedlom wrote: »

Everyone! Look at me!!!!!!!!!!!!

And who are you?

Thought so.

idk

daemonios wrote: »

bedlom wrote: »

Everyone! Look at me!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm making a statement about where I think the game is at right now.

What about you? What exactly is the purpose of your post?

Everyone has an oppinion yet few post that they're leaving the game because most of us don't know each other and as such are not concerned. This thread is basically a thread that your leaving the game.

At that, their is a time honored tradition that threads like these get a treatment as you've seen. Usually more and heavier trolling.

Makkir

Is this like when your girl dumps you so you feel the need to write her 100 letters trying to "explain" everything?

Balamoor

daemonios wrote: »

The straw that broke the camel's back would be Matt Firor's interview where he basically wrote off zero-day subscribers like me. In his words, ZOS will cater the game to people who log in after a DLC is out, play for 2 weeks then leave again.

That isn't what he said and to assert that is nothing more than stirring the drama pot while Blaring your favorite Simple plan CD.

What they are doing is smart actually frequent DLC's for those people that can't live in the game, will provide even more income and thus development dollars for those of us with more time. People who have never been in the industry has this notion that there are just four or five guys designing everything. The team that makes this content is a separate entity and doesn't take away from the long term plans of the game.

But whatever dude, explaining this to forum moaners just isn't worth it. This game has been crushing it since 2015 and will continue to do so, a few more or less won't matter.

Sheezabeast

For every canceled sub there's about 20 people or more who dished out the money for the Dro-Mothra Senche mount

mb10

SEE YA!

Dont forget to close the door on the way out

daemonios

Balamoor wrote: »

That isn't what he said and to assert that is nothing more than stirring the drama pot while Blaring your favorite Simple plan CD.

From the IGN website:

Firor says that Zenimax is aiming to release multiple, smaller DLC packs to cater to players who return to the game intermittently, creating something akin to 'episodes' for the game:
"It’s interesting to see what happens when you take away the subscription model away," Firor explained. "You don’t see a hardcore playstyle - like playing for six months and then quitting - we don’t see that. We have a lot of players who will play for two or three weeks because they want to get through a zone and then stop. Then they come back two months later for another month, because there’s no pressure to play all of it at once.
"Our DLC packs cater to that, because they’re smaller, bite-size chunks of story and associated quests."

If that wasn't what he said, I may need you to make me a drawing because that's what I got from reading the interview. Did YOU read it?

Balamoor

daemonios wrote: »

Balamoor wrote: »

That isn't what he said and to assert that is nothing more than stirring the drama pot while Blaring your favorite Simple plan CD.

From the IGN website:

Firor says that Zenimax is aiming to release multiple, smaller DLC packs to cater to players who return to the game intermittently, creating something akin to 'episodes' for the game:
"It’s interesting to see what happens when you take away the subscription model away," Firor explained. "You don’t see a hardcore playstyle - like playing for six months and then quitting - we don’t see that. We have a lot of players who will play for two or three weeks because they want to get through a zone and then stop. Then they come back two months later for another month, because there’s no pressure to play all of it at once.
"Our DLC packs cater to that, because they’re smaller, bite-size chunks of story and associated quests."

If that wasn't what he said, I may need you to make me a drawing because that's what I got from reading the interview. Did YOU read it?

Yes I read it. BFD honestly this is what you are crying about? There metrics has determined how gamers play these days. It's not thier fault that Basement dwellers are on the decline. Hardcores hasn't mattered in years and they did it to themselves anyone who doubts that just needs to go back to the forum archives of games like EQ and WoW. The elitist attitudes costs developers paying customers...so they gave them the finger.

You won't get any pity here jack.

daemonios

Balamoor wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Balamoor wrote: »

That isn't what he said and to assert that is nothing more than stirring the drama pot while Blaring your favorite Simple plan CD.

From the IGN website:

Firor says that Zenimax is aiming to release multiple, smaller DLC packs to cater to players who return to the game intermittently, creating something akin to 'episodes' for the game:
"It’s interesting to see what happens when you take away the subscription model away," Firor explained. "You don’t see a hardcore playstyle - like playing for six months and then quitting - we don’t see that. We have a lot of players who will play for two or three weeks because they want to get through a zone and then stop. Then they come back two months later for another month, because there’s no pressure to play all of it at once.
"Our DLC packs cater to that, because they’re smaller, bite-size chunks of story and associated quests."

If that wasn't what he said, I may need you to make me a drawing because that's what I got from reading the interview. Did YOU read it?

Yes I read it. BFD honestly this is what you are crying about? There metrics has determined how gamers play these days. It's not thier fault that Basement dwellers are on the decline. Hardcores hasn't mattered in years and they did it to themselves anyone who doubts that just needs to go back to the forum archives of games like EQ and WoW. The elitist attitudes costs developers paying customers...so they gave them the finger.

You won't get any pity here jack.

I'm not looking for pity and don't know why you'd assume that. I'm also not contesting that ZOS have determined who matters and who doesn't. All I'm saying is that by ZOS' own words I'm not an interesting demographic, and that annoys me because I've put 2 years and €400 into this game. It's a free world, ZOS will take the game wherever they want to take it. That doesn't mean everybody has to cheer. Finally, I don't think it's elitist to want quality content that lasts more than a week in return for my continued subscription. ZOS disagree, and their within their right. But I'm in my right not to keep subbing.

ShedsHisTail

I feel like Firor's words are being misinterpreted a bit.

I'll elaborate on that when I get to a proper keyboard.

Volkodav

PurifedBladez wrote: »

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

I cancelled too, i just cant support a company that refuses to listen to the playerbase on issues, refuses to fix bugs, launches broke DLCs every single time, PVP performance is horrible and personally i hate the CP system. Broken abilities should also not be broken for as long as they are, that is probably the most important thing in any video game, your abilites have to freaking work. This game will always be "it has potential".

I believe it had potential at a time. When I think about eso now I can't help but think what a failure it has been. I think the elder scrolls title and style of the game keeps a lot of players around but, ZOS keeps making really bad decisions. Eventually it's not gonna be worth it anymore which is what you're starting to see now with a lot of the veteran playerbase.

I'm one of those in the Veteran Player base,and I still sub.I personally dont find ESO a failure.
I do agree that ZOS has been doing some rather odd things lately,but overall,I believe my money is well spent.

WolfingHour

Playing six month is hardcore? Wow, how has the bar changed...

I'm just waiting for day were it is announced a fail proof legendary improvement mat available in the crown store (limited offer) to go along with access to the next super hyped episodic DLC "two streets in Morthal".

The forums will turn ablaze, blood will run in the streets and everyone will think the end is near and wonder "how did we get here?".

Or nothing of that will happen and the populace at last will sigh a collective meh and pony up for a fundamentally watered down experience.

Either way, I dont look forward for that day. I've played since beta and my impression (for what is worth) is that we are headed in that direction.

Alurria

It's fine that you don't agree but after reading what he said they are delivering content to the masses not just the 1% the bottom line is this is a business catering to entertainment and as such will cater to the majority who pay money. If you are not happy I understand but no need to put it on the forum goers shoulders because your happiness is not affecting my game play. I like ESO and my bottom line is myself. Hope you find another game you like.