@ZOS Nerf mages/fighters guild xp

UltimaJoe777

Aquanova wrote: »

It's the fighter's guild skill line that I find harder to level for flawless dawn breaker. It feels like it levels much slower than a year ago.

Most likely to make it just as unlikely to get Dawnbreaker before Cadwell's Silver as Meteor.

Wolfshead

Axorn wrote: »

I leveled my char in few hours to level 50 but then i had to level mages guild to 10 to get the meteor so i started to hunt those books and i had to go to those veteran zones and run all the maps with my slow horse it was total pain. It took 2 days to collect all those books to get rank 10.

I should be able to get rank 10 mages guild within my own alliance borders since veteran ranks removed i dont have to play veteran zones i got 574 cp. Also we get the 'Master Wizard' title with the final quest of mages guild quest at rift which is my alliance last zone before coldharbour. How come i am a 'master wizard' without rank 10 mages guild ? I can get 'master wizard' title at rank 5 which is equal to adept wizard lol. Its very unlogical

Please increase the each book xp to 10 or 15 from 5 so 'Master Wizard' title and quests can align with our true rank and we can get max rank within our alliance as the quests.

Well if you pick up all book in world you well/should be lvl 10 before you hit lvl 50 the are addon that show where all lore books are found in world to get xp to mage guild and honest i got to lvl 10 with mage guild before i hit Vet lvl zone before the remove them.

As i read all book in all zone i can easy say the have add more book in every patch for when i go back zone i have complete with the addon i use i can see the are more books in every zone now and yes the addon is update for when i pick up those new books the are there where addon say the are.

I suggest you download this addon LoreBooks if you dont already have it.

Beside mage quest i have nothing to do with lvl in guild or books for i have complete all questline for DB and are lvl 9 but i have got title there all ready but DB is lvl 12 to get all skills in that "tree" fact is you need grind to get max lvl with both and honest mage guild 100 time easy to get max lvl with then DB or thief guild.

So ZoS dont need nerf anything i would suggest you start towards those goal you want in game if want meteor skills start work on to get this and honest all skills even alliance war skills you have work/grind to get max lvl on why should we get everything hand to us on gold plate how about people start work on thing instead go on forum whine on everything serious if people want play easy mmo the should try play WoW every also everything is hand to you without put any effort into get it.

wenchmore420b14_ESO

Two Words....NO NERFS!

Darth_Trumpious

Say NO to

1) Entitlements
2) Press one button and win
3) Gimme everything
4) Everything I already have should be account wide

ADarklore

People talk about collecting books in Cyrodiil but they don't seem to realize that many of those books are DUPLICATE books found in the regular Alliance PvE quest zones. So if you collect books in Cyrodiil's AD section, you're getting AD lorebooks, collecting in DC, you're getting DC lorebooks, same with EP.

Xundiin

AlnilamE wrote: »

Your Alliance (and Coldharbour) + Cyrodiil lorebooks = Mages Guild 10

I remember getting mages guild to 10 with just alliance and Cyrodiil books. because I was level 10 in it at like level 44 or 45. Now, you can't and even getting all those books plus coldharbor you still end up having to get at least half the books in the first area of the silver campaign area.

greylox

Took a few hours, what were you doing? There's guides on the net that show you where books are and fighters guild is just doing dungeons. Sod it, why have to level it at all, sigh.

hydrocynus

Dear OP.

I bet you were so excited when you heard veteran ranks were removed. You we so excited to power level an alt to level cap and own end game content.

I bet you were very surprised when finally you got him to level 50 you realised that he could do nothing as you had no mages/fighters/undaunted guild skill lines to give you the skills you need.

Finally I bet that once you get what you want, you will realise you have no skill points to spend on those lines and will therefore be the first on the forums to open a thread with the subject "Nerf Skyshard Hunt".

Julianos

hydrocynus wrote: »

Dear OP.

I bet you were so excited when you heard veteran ranks were removed. You we so excited to power level an alt to level cap and own end game content.

I bet you were very surprised when finally you got him to level 50 you realised that he could do nothing as you had no mages/fighters/undaunted guild skill lines to give you the skills you need.

Finally I bet that once you get what you want, you will realise you have no skill points to spend on those lines and will therefore be the first on the forums to open a thread with the subject "Nerf Skyshard Hunt".

Dear Hydrocynus i had already 8 max vet chars before vet ranks remove i did all those stuff 8x. Im not lazy or i dont want hand overs im fine with skyshard hunting if you are not going level all craft skills with your every char then your alliance skyshards are enough. All i am sayin we should be able to get max rank within our alliance why vet ranks removed? to prevent mindless grinding over and over again right? And with lorebook addon collecting those books over and over again is just mindless as veteran ranks its not fun its not exciting its not an achievement it just mindless chore i already got 575 cp i done enough grinding i just wanna max out my char in few hours and join cyrodiil with friends ASAP i dont have time for mindless crappy grind if you guys sooo loving mindless un ending grinding go ahead and download korean mmo and start grinding and be happy

hydrocynus

Axorn wrote: »

hydrocynus wrote: »

Dear OP.

I bet you were so excited when you heard veteran ranks were removed. You we so excited to power level an alt to level cap and own end game content.

I bet you were very surprised when finally you got him to level 50 you realised that he could do nothing as you had no mages/fighters/undaunted guild skill lines to give you the skills you need.

Finally I bet that once you get what you want, you will realise you have no skill points to spend on those lines and will therefore be the first on the forums to open a thread with the subject "Nerf Skyshard Hunt".

Dear Hydrocynus i had already 8 max vet chars before vet ranks remove i did all those stuff 8x. Im not lazy or i dont want hand overs im fine with skyshard hunting if you are not going level all craft skills with your every char then your alliance skyshards are enough. All i am sayin we should be able to get max rank within our alliance why vet ranks removed? to prevent mindless grinding over and over again right? And with lorebook addon collecting those books over and over again is just mindless as veteran ranks its not fun its not exciting its not an achievement it just mindless chore i already got 575 cp i done enough grinding i just wanna max out my char in few hours and join cyrodiil with friends ASAP i dont have time for mindless crappy grind if you guys sooo loving mindless un ending grinding go ahead and download korean mmo and start grinding and be happy

Why don't you ask for instant leveling to level 50 when you make your character?

Seriously though. If you get all the sky shards you need you will pass a lot of books at the same time. Just read them as you go. Then it is only the last few that you will have to grind. I am on my ninth character now and going through it like you but I understand its part of the chore of an MMO.

devilsTear

At least pc players have an addon, I have 3 toons to lv10 in the mages guild and I still have a sorc, magplar and magblade that'll probably never get meteor because of the tedious search. I play on ps4 and don't have a laptop or computer that I can put next to me.

llSRRll

SMH, go play call of duty

CokeVoAYCE

mages guild is too slow for me. i have over 1000 hours in the game and i'm still to lazy to go out and collect the books. highest i've gotten is level 7 mages guild. fighters guild goes by by its self though for me.

TrueGreenSmoker

The books are a nightmare (especially on Console same counts for Skyshards we need to google that sheeit). I did them on my AD Sorc AD Temp AD Dk AD NB and im busy with my DC Sorc its 9 doing the last zone once ESO is back up on PS4. Fighters guild is easy go sewers or coldhourborge or any other place with undead/deadra

FengRush has a video of a good spot for DC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21akN7OL6MA

Rosveen

Axorn wrote: »

it was total pain. It took 2 days to collect all those books to get rank 10.

*laughs hysterically*

No nerfs.

JoshenReborn

Welcome to the Mages Guild. You just got here and you haven't really done anything but I present to you Ice Comet. You don't even have to level it up we did that for you. Now go forth and affluenza your way through Tamriel.

hydrocynus

JoshenReborn wrote: »

Welcome to the Mages Guild. You just got here and you haven't really done anything but I present to you Ice Comet. You don't even have to level it up we did that for you. Now go forth and affluenza your way through Tamriel.

What he said.

Sunburnt_Penguin

Axorn wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Your Alliance (and Coldharbour) + Cyrodiil lorebooks = Mages Guild 10

not true uhm tho i never hunted books in cyrodiil tho

It is true. I saw a L40 with Meteor in Cyro a few weeks ago.

heystreethawk

Danksta wrote: »

2 days to get one of the best Ultimates in the game! Well that sucks! They should probably just hand it to you when you join the Mage's Guild.

GEE WILLICKERS A METEOR! Those skeevers won't be pushing this guy around anymore *hooks thumbs at self, soul shriven pants fall off and crumple into dust*

nine9six

lol

Scamandros

DHale wrote: »

#STOPALLNERFS earn it... stop being lazy. The point of this is to explore not whine on the forums about there is nothing to do and all the content is too easy or to hard. Then go to pvp get rekt because you don't know how to play your class or the intrinsic game mechanics. You can't get good in this game in even months. You are just making max level noobs who play like crud in their 6 k weapon damage all legendary gear. Makes me laugh.. And sad.

Previously when faced with tough challenges I would reflect on my build, my rotations and skill choice, my positioning and situational awareness, all in order to improve my game and overcome said challenge.

After reading your post I tried the novel idea of going exploring and reading a lore book. I already had mages guild 10 so naturally questioned the usefulness of this approach, but lo and behold that extra lorebook contained all the game secrets I was missing. All this time wasted theorycrafting and practising when all I really needed was a long ingame walk. Now I crush people all day in cyrodil because their lorebook reading ability pales in comparison to my own. People accused me of using cheat engine when in fact they just didn't take time to digest what they have read.

These days I am an emperor of tamriel, Red Bull sponsor me, I am married to my wonderful wife I met at book club and have ammassed a small fortune to eventually retire on.

I owe all my success to you. Without your hot exploration tips I would still be your average lowly soldier. Now I am a winner!
Thank you, so very much.

notimetocare

FG? Yes. Undaunted? Yes. Mages? Meh, run in circles for a few hours and done.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

I guess I sort of get the OPs point. Mages guild should certainly not be nerfed for fist timers, but I do get that its a pain the second (or seventh) time around. Personally, I prefer to clear Skyshards in the first 10 Zones anyway for the skill points (hirelings, baby), so that usually solves the problem, but it is a pretty mind-numbing chore. As a general rule, I support account wide features, but I also dont think you should be able to roll a brand new toon overnight. If they bumped it from 5 to 10 points a book, I really wouldn't care.

Fighters guild is one we used to not think twice about. It was pretty tough to get to v16 without having this maxed. Now its about a 2-3 hour grind once you hit max level if you want to do it quick. It took that long anyway to get all my skills to morph, so really no great issue there.

Undaunted, I would not cry if this was account wide. Its a big grind. I have done it 5 times, and have 2 more to do at this point. This is about as tedious as lore books considering the difficulty of normal dungeons at this point.

Infinite12

TequilaFire wrote: »

Wow a whole 2 days. smh

To be fair that's two days of mostly lorebook hunting and that sucks. It's such a grind. A little bump in xp wouldn't hurt. You have to stop doing anything remotely entertaining to get mages guild to 10. It's a poopy grind.

UltimaJoe777

Infinite12 wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Wow a whole 2 days. smh

To be fair that's two days of mostly lorebook hunting and that sucks. It's such a grind. A little bump in xp wouldn't hurt. You have to stop doing anything remotely entertaining to get mages guild to 10. It's a poopy grind.

And it's all for Meteor so if you want the goods work for it. No one ever said a worthwhile grind HAD to be fun...

Xundiin

TrueGreenSmoker wrote: »

The books are a nightmare (especially on Console same counts for Skyshards we need to google that sheeit). I did them on my AD Sorc AD Temp AD Dk AD NB and im busy with my DC Sorc its 9 doing the last zone once ESO is back up on PS4. Fighters guild is easy go sewers or coldhourborge or any other place with undead/deadra

FengRush has a video of a good spot for DC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21akN7OL6MA

That place is in Cyrodiil and can be accessed by any faction.

Dromede

I think that you should put some work in your characters. Trust me, I know the struggle - I leveled more alts than I had time to devote, so some of them are struggling with Undaunted and Mages guild xp lines.

Progression takes time, so does acquiring xp/skill points/passives you name it.