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Mutagen Spamming Emperors

Molag_Crow
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I'm seriously curious... hasn't anybody (including ZOS) ever realized how messed up that actually is? for somebody to be allowed to follow groups/the main zergs of a faction in Cyrodiil, spamming the Restoration Staff heal "Mutagen" to gain mass Alliance Points quicker than anybody (usually) and the average player, resulting in them being #1 on the leaderboards every campaign and also the highest rank too? (On PS4 EU, FYI)

It's been over a year now for us console plebs and of course we're used to Mutagen spammers, but it baffles me that it's still a thing.

I'm not really complaining here, but think about it. Look at the bigger picture. Who should be rewarded more, somebody spamming Mutagen or somebody getting involved in taking keeps, resources, KILLING players and defending... ? it's an obvious answer for the non-Trolls.
Edited by Molag_Crow on June 13, 2016 1:31PM
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  • Vinther
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    Only nubs spam mutagen, rapid regeneration is much better for AP gains!

    Build and spam hots = becoming best and most feared pvper in eso = zos logic.

    Exactly why I'm done with PvP and now that they are screwing up PvE too, I think I personally may be completely done with this bs.
  • TieFighter
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    or they *dual* their friends for AP to get emporer, if people are doing it right by healing that is not as offensive as someone getting emporer for fake killing their alt acct or friend.
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  • Molag_Crow
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    Vinther wrote: »
    Only nubs spam mutagen, rapid regeneration is much better for AP gains!

    Build and spam hots = becoming best and most feared pvper in eso = zos logic.

    Exactly why I'm done with PvP and now that they are screwing up PvE too, I think I personally may be completely done with this bs.

    Yeah, or rapid regen... and that's what I'm talking about. Many players from my own faction have moved to other factions because of certain players who only hog the leaderboards every campaign with their mutagen spamming... :confused:
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  • Mirelurk
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    Damn straight, healers are useless and should be locked out of AP gains.
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  • TequilaFire
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    Only if solo, group shares ap gained and the heals!
  • Asmael
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    While we're at it, let's complain about siegers!.

    Pressing left click -> Massive AP gains. Sounds legit.

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  • Molag_Crow
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    I used to love healing groups/zergs back in the day because it reminded me of being a healer in AV on World of Warcraft and stuff, but when I found out that I was gaining more AP & ranks for it, than those who actually kill and take keeps/resources/defend, it shocked me... :lol: I scrapped my healing build many months ago and have been enjoying small scale PvP/1vX ever since, and sure I'm never up there on the leaderboards but I don't care about Emperorship, I just think it's a shame that it comes down to that....

    I would suggest something, but I don't know what that would be... I could make a ridiculous suggestion? like.. Resto staff heals being excluded from AP gains? or would that be unfair? I don't really know a solution...
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  • Molag_Crow
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    Asmael wrote: »
    While we're at it, let's complain about siegers!.

    Pressing left click -> Massive AP gains. Sounds legit.

    #NerfSieges2016
    #RemoveAoeCaps
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    Siegers who use meat bags to tag zergs? well at least that's not as common and takes slightly more skill than blindly spamming 1 button (rapid regen/mutagen)
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  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Tried switching to heals recently when I was attempting to figure out a magicka build, but it seemed slower than the AP you earn just from fighting. You will see lots of tiny AP ticks from healing, but every time you kill someone solo you get between 600 to 1500 AP.

    The players you see at the top of the campaign leaderboards are just people who spend a lot of time playing, whether they are healers, gankers, master masons, etc., is not relevant.

    The key factor is just playing all day and night. If you've been playing the game for a while, you know how to earn a certain amount of AP per hour hour, whether you are healing or killing.

    At any rate, I certainly don't mind if a healer earns more AP than me and becomes emperor - the more healers the better!
  • DocFrost72
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    Molag_Crow wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    While we're at it, let's complain about siegers!.

    Pressing left click -> Massive AP gains. Sounds legit.

    #NerfSieges2016
    #RemoveAoeCaps
    #BlablablaHashtagsBlablabla

    Siegers who use meat bags to tag zergs? well at least that's not as common and takes slightly more skill than blindly spamming 1 button (rapid regen/mutagen)

    I guess it depends where they are.

    If you're trying to set up a gate farm, a bridge farm, or attacking my keep I'm busting you with siege pure and simple. Should I feel ashamed?

    Don't care, got kills :)
  • Molag_Crow
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    Tried switching to heals recently when I was attempting to figure out a magicka build, but it seemed slower than the AP you earn just from fighting. You will see lots of tiny AP ticks from healing, but every time you kill someone solo you get between 600 to 1500 AP.

    The players you see at the top of the campaign leaderboards are just people who spend a lot of time playing, whether they are healers, gankers, master masons, etc., is not relevant.

    The key factor is just playing all day and night. If you've been playing the game for a while, you know how to earn a certain amount of AP per hour hour, whether you are healing or killing.

    At any rate, I certainly don't mind if a healer earns more AP than me and becomes emperor - the more healers the better!

    I have to agree there, actually. Come to think of it, "they" do stay up all night and day, frequently... :p
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  • MaxwellC
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    @Molag_Crow
    I made a post regarding this and I only received a lot of hate for ruining their AP grind lol.. I do hate that, I'll see that person spamming it and here I am killing enemy after enemy but they're still outpacing me.
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  • Rainteal
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    I had a guy accuse me of leaching AP because I, as a healer with a Maelstrom Resto Staff, was using Mutagen in a PvP group. He told me the HoT was junk and that I was just stealing the AP other people were working to get.

    He appeared surprised when I noted the powerful heal that would happen if he got low on health, and I had to explain to him what the Spell Power Cure buff that he was receiving did as well. I have always been a bit turned off to healing in Cyrodiil because of this attitude.
  • Teridaxus
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    *cries in corner as tank since cc, damage absorbing and using siege to destroy keeps barely gets any rewards*
    Edited by Teridaxus on June 13, 2016 3:10PM
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