Permanent Shadowry Cloak Suggestion fix

Volla

To make the Shadowry cloak not be so extremt in the way its used or abused, i think you should consider to do the same as the Sorceress when teleports away. Make it cost more the more you use the cloak. that way magica NB cant perm cloak to much in order to get punished for it.

1 Cloak = normal cost
2 Cloak = 25% more cost
3 Cloak = 50% more cost
4 Cloak = 75% more cost
5 Cloak = 100% more cost

And so on.

holosoul

the sorc punishment is worse than that fyi (buff streak, no seriously what the hell?)
but no, cloak is fine
in fact it should probably be buffed it's screwed up atm

Stannum

Oh, again. Looks like noone uses radiant maglight/detect pots/hunter. I've put off shadow cloack two years ago and and it is still not worth a slot on skillbar.

the_man_of_steal

With all the DOTs being on the comeback these days... Cloak is fine. Also, you have magelight helping you out as well if you need it!

cmabouaf

Nightblades do not have any ways to mitigate damage like other classes. I would gladly take streak over cloak now. Cloak is broken too and hardly ever works even with all the changes.

Volla wrote: »

To make the Shadowry cloak not be so extremt in the way its used or abused, i think you should consider to do the same as the Sorceress when teleports away. Make it cost more the more you use the cloak. that way magica NB cant perm cloak to much in order to get punished for it.

1 Cloak = normal cost
2 Cloak = 25% more cost
3 Cloak = 50% more cost
4 Cloak = 75% more cost
5 Cloak = 100% more cost

And so on.

Junkogen

Volla wrote: »

To make the Shadowry cloak not be so extremt in the way its used or abused, i think you should consider to do the same as the Sorceress when teleports away. Make it cost more the more you use the cloak. that way magica NB cant perm cloak to much in order to get punished for it.

1 Cloak = normal cost
2 Cloak = 25% more cost
3 Cloak = 50% more cost
4 Cloak = 75% more cost
5 Cloak = 100% more cost

And so on.

This is entirely unnecessary and would do way more harm than good in terms of balance. I guess I just don't see the "abuse" that you seem to be seeing.

lolo_01b16_ESO

No, we don't need more nerfs to defensive skills. Doing so was a stupid idea to start with, back in the days when they reduced everyones max hp, and was followed by many more changes like removal of skills like exchanging cinder storm and blinding flashes for dps skills, increasing streak / dodge costs, removing stamina reg while blocking, ... that all lead to the huge imbalance between offensive and defensive gameplay we have atm.

Rohamad_Ali

I don't think making an ability that seldom ever works correctly should cost any more .

Lynx7386

And stamina nightblades will still only be able to cloak 3 times.

Xvorg

Lynx7386 wrote: »

And stamina nightblades will still only be able to cloak 3 times.

Or less

I've been using disguise since the last nerf done a couple months ago (remember when cloak was used for cleanse?)

Now I use it with retre maneuv and even with that I'm unable to run away from the 20 mts punct strikes/Diz swings/SAs. Even worse, certain Templar killed me while I was 10 mts BELOW him

binho

Or...
Why don't we nerf all the classes skills and we all use just weapons skills so everyone is happy?!

XaXa

#No

Dakrana_Thrazvoth

Volla wrote: »

To make the Shadowry cloak not be so extremt in the way its used or abused, i think you should consider to do the same as the Sorceress when teleports away. Make it cost more the more you use the cloak. that way magica NB cant perm cloak to much in order to get punished for it.

1 Cloak = normal cost
2 Cloak = 25% more cost
3 Cloak = 50% more cost
4 Cloak = 75% more cost
5 Cloak = 100% more cost

And so on.

Just no thank you.

15% increased cost of skills is enough. And teso had already too many nerfs after each major update because of players like you who want nerfs on everything.

FleetwoodSmack

Volla wrote: »

To make the Shadowry cloak not be so extremt in the way its used or abused, i think you should consider to do the same as the Sorceress when teleports away. Make it cost more the more you use the cloak. that way magica NB cant perm cloak to much in order to get punished for it.

1 Cloak = normal cost
2 Cloak = 25% more cost
3 Cloak = 50% more cost
4 Cloak = 75% more cost
5 Cloak = 100% more cost

And so on.

No thanks.

XaXa

Hahahaha. No.

Sorc streak should have never been "Fixed" either.

Im willing to be your either a templar or dragon knight.

While were at it lets make BoL have a cost increase if cast again within 5 seconds. Seems fair to me.

After all why should templars be able to spam their heal?

Or you know... you could learn to counter. Just like how for cloak you can use AoE to pull them out or idk... Magelight? Evil Hunter? Use your options and stop calling for unjustified nerfs.

ManDraKE

Volla wrote: »

To make the Shadowry cloak not be so extremt in the way its used or abused, i think you should consider to do the same as the Sorceress when teleports away. Make it cost more the more you use the cloak. that way magica NB cant perm cloak to much in order to get punished for it.

1 Cloak = normal cost
2 Cloak = 25% more cost
3 Cloak = 50% more cost
4 Cloak = 75% more cost
5 Cloak = 100% more cost

And so on.

And stamblade won't be able to cloak at all Your solution is as bad as the "solution" for streak was, it completly *** up the stam sorc, and magsorcs can still streak like 7 times in a row.

Perm cloak is not a problem is you know how to play agaisnt them, l2p issue.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

And stamina nightblades will still only be able to cloak 3 times.

withouth food, you probably won't be able to get the 3th cloak in a row withouth having to wait the regen tick.

Tormy

I play stam DK and think this idea sucks!!

Autolycus

I stopped using cloak several updates ago, and I'm glad I did. If my build was still reliant upon being able to disappear after a kill, I would always go 1:1 because how easy it is to anti-gank in this game.

There's nothing wrong with the cost of cloak. In order to perma-cloak, one has to build for it, and building for perma-cloak means giving up on a lot of damage and utility, which is more valuable in a lot of cases. My survivability and sustain without cloak is vastly better in my current build.

DannyLV702

Play NB and let me know what you think again.....

GreenSoup2HoT

As a stamina blade i have one thing to say, in most situations cloak is so unreliable to the SNARE Online we play, you do not escape. I have recently switched to summon image and its pretty dandy though.

I understand your case though, it is pretty cheese how a magicka nb if they escape can cloak forever.. however in my opinion i think healing ward spam is a bigger issue when discussing magicka classes.

Once cloak cannot be broken by anything, then having an increased cost like this would make sense.

Malanor

I would usualy agree with such threads. But today cloak is broken. So much things pulls nbs out (gapclosep, wrecking blow, flury). I quit playing my stamblade this patch. So screw this thread untill cloak will be working preDB.