Please remove cloak from the game

Ragnaroek93

Please remove this ability from the game. One out of five cloaks actually work, at this point this skill is just pathetic. Seriously, fix this *** or give Nightblades a reliable defensive skill -.-

Greetings

Aldruin

Just give us a skill that does nothing other than major mending for some seconds and remove cloak and I'll be the happiest nb ever.
But really how many patches is it going to take so that literally every single target skill used at the right time wont take us out of cloak?

Tavore1138

it did work for about 5 minutes then the kool kids whined and they broke it again.....

TerraDewBerry

Pfft, as a magica NB, I live on cloak.. not everyone is having a problem with it..

leepalmer95

Ahnastashia wrote: »

Pfft, as a magica NB, I live on cloak.. not everyone is having a problem with it..

You will in DB.

TerraDewBerry

That might be.. (I haven't had a problem with it yet), but I spend much more time in the other parts of the game... asking to completely remove it is a tad extreme I think. How about asking for a fix for whatever the problem is?

Tryxus

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

or give Nightblades a reliable defensive skill -.-

Like Mass Hysteria? Shadow Image teleport? Or the new Harness Magicka?

Tavore1138

Tryxus wrote: »

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

or give Nightblades a reliable defensive skill -.-

Like Mass Hysteria? Shadow Image teleport? Or the new Harness Magicka?

Tough for a stamblade in your world

Tryxus

Tavore1138 wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

or give Nightblades a reliable defensive skill -.-

Like Mass Hysteria? Shadow Image teleport? Or the new Harness Magicka?

Tough for a stamblade in your world

Without the last skill I mentioned, not so tough

Ampnode

As much as I hate you NBs this patch, cloak is broken completely. Not like you really need cloak anyways, because you can just Surprise Attack + Incap someone to death

mr1sho

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

Please remove this ability from the game. One out of five cloaks actually work, at this point this skill is just pathetic. Seriously, fix this *** or give Nightblades a reliable defensive skill -.-

Greetings

People complain about NB too much they're nerfing everything we use surprise attack going be Nerf to oblivion next watch

xblackroxe

Tryxus wrote: »

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

or give Nightblades a reliable defensive skill -.-

Like Mass Hysteria? Shadow Image teleport? Or the new Harness Magicka?

Doesn´t change the fact that cloak is completely broken though. You just can´t justify a broken skill just because there are other good skills availiable.

Tryxus

xblackroxe wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

or give Nightblades a reliable defensive skill -.-

Like Mass Hysteria? Shadow Image teleport? Or the new Harness Magicka?

Doesn´t change the fact that cloak is completely broken though. You just can´t justify a broken skill just because there are other good skills availiable.

Never said that

Just saying that it's not the only "reliable" defensive move NB have. And if it's broken then yeah, it has to be fixed

bowmanz607

No issues here. Specifically what abilities are stopping you from cloaking? Are you sure it's not detect pots or another counter?

STEVIL

i support removing cloak from the nb skill tree and replacing it with sorcerer's dark exchange with the following caveats:
1 - It only applies to those who asked for cloak removal. one time account-wide click off.
2 - Once any bugs are fixed or cloak improved, they dont get to switch back.
3 - it applies to all their characters in perpetuity, even if they delete and redo.
4 - this becomes SOP for those asking for skills to be removed from the game,, not just NB. give them all a "put up or shut up" "put your tree where your mou... fingers are" one time irreversible option.

Call this an HRC (hyperbole reduction click.)

In other news, I would bet that a majority of sorcerers would LOVE to trade out Dark Exchange and its morphs for Cloak and its morphs as is even with the tier 4 vs tier 1 jump.

Ch4mpTW

Cloak should be nerfed further or removed all together, in my opinion. It's a ridiculously overpowered move, that provides way too many pros than cons. For example, if a Sorcerer were to use their version of it (Bolt Escape and morphs), they're punished by having the cost increases with each cast if used back-after-back. How is that fair or right? Why not apply that same penalty to Nightblades? I'd love for that to happen, and then I'd feel cloak was balanced.

Lokey0024

I heard a rumor that if you stack impen instead of divines you don't get Merced as fast. Just a rumor tho.

Tryxus

Quick and serious question here:

How many counters does Bolt Escape have?

Been a while since I played Sorc, so...

Ch4mpTW

Tryxus wrote: »

Quick and serious question here:

How many counters does Bolt Escape have?

Been a while since I played Sorc, so...

Numerous. In fact, Bolt Escape counters itself if used too many times.

Tryxus

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Quick and serious question here:

How many counters does Bolt Escape have?

Been a while since I played Sorc, so...

Numerous. In fact, Bolt Escape counters itself if used too many times.

Just basically gap closers?

NovaShadow

Mine works perfectly fine, in fact it's better than it was in TG. In TG I had the issues everyone's complaining about now.

bowmanz607

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Cloak should be nerfed further or removed all together, in my opinion. It's a ridiculously overpowered move, that provides way too many pros than cons. For example, if a Sorcerer were to use their version of it (Bolt Escape and morphs), they're punished by having the cost increases with each cast if used back-after-back. How is that fair or right? Why not apply that same penalty to Nightblades? I'd love for that to happen, and then I'd feel cloak was balanced.

Streak is 100%. Cloak has a dozen and a half counters to it. Cloak is balanced because of all the xounters.

Tryxus

bowmanz607 wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Cloak should be nerfed further or removed all together, in my opinion. It's a ridiculously overpowered move, that provides way too many pros than cons. For example, if a Sorcerer were to use their version of it (Bolt Escape and morphs), they're punished by having the cost increases with each cast if used back-after-back. How is that fair or right? Why not apply that same penalty to Nightblades? I'd love for that to happen, and then I'd feel cloak was balanced.

Streak is 100%. Cloak has a dozen and a half counters to it. Cloak is balanced because of all the xounters.

Dude, that was what I was getting at... way to spoil the surprise

Zenetrax

And also remove detect pots! They make cloak useless.

Farorin

I'm not really having any problems with cloak, it breaks out a lot, but it's literally always done that apart from back when everyone was crying that it was OP.

GreenSoup2HoT

Revert Block regen + Roll Dodge / Streak cost stack! #MakeEsoGreatAgain

Overall i think Cloak has enough counter's and it's becoming very unreliable. Yes it's a very powerful skill but that does not mean it should be broken. I hope Zos takes a look. Each class has a reliable way of breaking cloak in my opinion, so it's not that big of an issue.

bowmanz607

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Revert Block regen and Roll Dodge / streak cost stack! #MakeEsoGreatAgain

Imagine reverting the roll dodge nerd today with the new armor trait for roll dodge.

Tryxus

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Overall i think Cloak has enough counter's and it's becoming very unreliable. Yes it's a very powerful skill but that does not mean it should be broken. I hope Zos takes a look. Each class has a reliable way of breaking cloak in my opinion, so it's not that big of an issue.

True dat

This update added yet another counter to Cloak: Camo Hunter/Evil Hunter from FG. Another one to the very long list of counters...

I think Cloak is perfect the way it is now: it doesn't purge anymore, simply surpresses DoTs (which was a main point back in the day) and it allows the NB to enter stealth at will while at the same time having plenty of counters to it.

If it really is broken, then I hope ZOS will fix it. As well as every other broken skill there is...

KingDuncanVII

That's like wanting a scorpion to remove its stinger.

Oliumzen

Not to mention everyone and their grandmas throwing down caltraps....try dodging through a zerg cloaked now days....doesnt happen the entire battle field is covered in caltraps.

Ragnaroek93

Just saying that it was a joke, that I want cloak to be removed. I want this skill fixed, to have a realiable defensive skill. The thing is, that NBs don't have any other defensive skills (shadow image and mass hysteria are no defensive skills in my opinion). With all the dots a Stamdk has right now I'm pretty much dead as soon as cloak breaks 5 times in a row (which happens very often) while another Stamdk just needs to cast his shield and vigor and is immortal for the next 5 seconds.

Aldruin wrote: »

Just give us a skill that does nothing other than major mending for some seconds and remove cloak and I'll be the happiest nb ever.
But really how many patches is it going to take so that literally every single target skill used at the right time wont take us out of cloak?

This.