vet removal is a big mistake

mr1sho

I'm still on the fence about vet removal because CP doesn't give the same sense of pride like VR did. Do you guys agree or disagree

JKorr

Don't care. Still don't have a maxed level character and don't pvp. I do feel a sense of pride in my characters as long as they can do the content I want to play. Whether they are V16 or C160 doesn't really matter to me.

Agobi

Simply put....no

mr1sho

I don't like cp displayed over v16 I wish they gave us the option to choose

phaneub17_ESO

I like hitting max level gear after level 49, instead of having to craft V1, V5, V10 along the way of another grueling grind; now I can just vendor those materials after refining them. Making 160 CP gear is costly, it's why I bought a whole crapton of Bahraha's Curse and Syvarra's Scale gear on the cheap before DB released to fill out the more expensive slots.

Argruna

I'll still be asked how many CP I have to get into a pug so nope, it's fine to me. They'll always find something to gearscore at least now it's just CP 160+ instead of VR 16, CP 160+.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

I agree and not with op that it is a mistake the only thing i would say is everyone is on about how cp points they have at lvl 50, i seen it when they are grouping for gold and silver, but this makes no sense, as u can have a new character at lvl 50 and cp points of 501 but with there skills on there action bar etc at only lvl 30

MattT1988

mr1sho wrote: »

I'm still on the fence about vet removal because CP doesn't give the same since of pride like VR did. Do you guys agree or disagree

I LOL'd at the sense of pride part.

Anyway I disagree, I think removing the VR's removes some of the time consuming grind and takes priority over any 'sense of pride'

DannyLV702

There's no pride in endlessly killing zombies over and over again. You can be proud of flawless conqueror, stormproof and other titles

Molag_Crow

I like the removal because it's really quite tedious getting to V16 and being V16 isn't anything special now, due to the low level scaling which makes lower levels stronger than V16 anyway...

Iluvrien

No. It wasn't a mistake, and has been in the pipeline for ages.

About damn time.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Im not sure why it would be a mistake. CP is basically the same thing. It is more like Vet renaming then removal.

martinhpb16_ESO

Disagree. vet levelling literally drove dozens of my friends and guildies from the game.

Its a long debated issue and vet levels are way overdue for removal.

Iluvrien

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Im not sure why it would be a mistake. CP is basically the same thing. It is more like Vet renaming then removal.

Agreed.

CP just added a degree of gradiation (1 VR = about 10 CP) and customisation (although obviously not when you hit the hard cap). We still have access to the skill points awarded and the gear that could be worn at that level. What exectly have we lost again?

Rev Rielle

Honestly, other than the VR16 not being next to our character's name, veteran ranks in all it's other mechanics are largely - but not completely - still there. Instead of VR16 we've just got CP10, 20, 30 etc now....

If they really wanted to make a change they would have left all monsters at level 50, and just increased their difficulty without holding our hands and telling us next to their name their CP indicator.

They also should have made all level 50 monsters give the same amount of experience regardless of CP next to them.

Personally the only thing that's changed - actually changed - is that the entire gold zone is now CP 160. But that's been hindered by the lackluster loot/drops from that area.

CP started on the right track, but what we have today is just a complete mess compared to what was originally envisaged. Such a convoluted game I've never played before...

But it is what it is, just have to focus on the positives and not the negatives as best we can.

Abeille

As someone with 9 characters, soon going for my 10th, I'm pretty happy with this change.

luen79rwb17_ESO

I'm quite glad they're gone.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Abeille wrote: »

As someone with 9 characters, soon going for my 10th, I'm pretty happy with this change.

I couldnt imagine. I got through one and quit when my second hit vr4. So boring. I wouldnt have come back if they hasnt made the whole thing account wide.

Grao

mr1sho wrote: »

I'm still on the fence about vet removal because CP doesn't give the same sense of pride like VR did. Do you guys agree or disagree

Disagree... Thanks to the removal of the veteran system is considerably easier to level up new characters.

Diozaels

The removal is awesome if you have alts and pointless if you have only one main. I personally would prefer it show you as level 50 and just keep your champion points to yourself, because it would get ridiculous to eventually see CP 420 monsters running around.

I think all the zones should be scaled just like orsinium, IC, Hew's bane, and kavatch, So you could truly do quests in any order and feel more open world like the other Elder Scrolls games.

acw37162

A big No

Glad to see it go, waves at it as floats away.

mb10

Suppose making new characters is way more motivating now than before

Ampnode

ok