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Trashyratchet
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Hi, why do you hate tanking in this game? Yeah, you, the [snip] DK tank hater. No Aoe taunt in the game, ok, we got this. Take away stamina regen while blocking, ok, we completely rebuilt our character and learned a completely new style with magicka regen. Then you move the passive to up shield resistance and put it in the same tree with our magica reduced cost and regen, without increasing champion cap...shame. Someone obviously hates tanks and I would love to have them come on the show and reveal themselves to explain why. You keep introducing DPS mechanics for tanks, you make it harder to manage resources, you turn us into a hybrid monster. Why in the hell would any new player want to learn tanking at this point, when you can throw on a stam or magicka nightblade and thrash things?

You don't hear from the PvE players often enough. Stop the codling to PvP whining of "We can't dress in heavy armor and whack people with sticks".

Stop messing with our PvE tank builds.

Sincerely,

The second best tank on PS4.

Edited to remove inappropriate language.
Edited by ZOS_DaryaK on June 1, 2016 1:18PM
  • Mordiez
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    you cant be the second best tank without being it in pvp too
  • Trashyratchet
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    Mordiez wrote: »
    you cant be the second best tank without being it in pvp too

    That is the line that you focused in on? Obviously this argument is going nowhere. Stand by while I'm drowned by PvP tears and angst.
    Edited by Trashyratchet on June 1, 2016 5:09AM
  • Whatzituyah
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    Your tanks! They got to wait outside. :trollface:

    Seriously though same complaint.
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    Magicka tanking is the way to go, stamina is purely for blocking and dodge roll only; I can spam my skills away without worry of wasting my primary resources or the issue of losing magicka recovery.
  • Mordiez
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    Mordiez wrote: »
    you cant be the second best tank without being it in pvp too

    That is the line what you focused in on? Obviously this argument is going nowhere. Stand by while I'm drowned by PvP tears and angst.

    im not having any problems with the update im tanking hard as ever the adjustments are minuscule to a decent tank, i would actually say im op and need a nerf in pve
    Edited by Mordiez on June 1, 2016 5:11AM
  • Whatzituyah
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    Magicka tanking is the way to go, stamina is purely for blocking and dodge roll only; I can spam my skills away without worry of wasting my primary resources or the issue of losing magicka recovery.

    @phaneub17_ESO You got to admit though puncture and its morphs are nice.
    Edited by Whatzituyah on June 1, 2016 5:12AM
  • Trashyratchet
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    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    you cant be the second best tank without being it in pvp too

    That is the line what you focused in on? Obviously this argument is going nowhere. Stand by while I'm drowned by PvP tears and angst.

    im not having any problems with the update im tanking hard as ever the adjustments are minuscule to a decent tank, i would actually say im op and need a nerf in pve

    Have my baby badass.
  • Mordiez
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    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    you cant be the second best tank without being it in pvp too

    That is the line what you focused in on? Obviously this argument is going nowhere. Stand by while I'm drowned by PvP tears and angst.

    im not having any problems with the update im tanking hard as ever the adjustments are minuscule to a decent tank, i would actually say im op and need a nerf in pve

    Have my baby badass.

    Daddy can teach you to tank
  • Trashyratchet
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    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    you cant be the second best tank without being it in pvp too

    That is the line what you focused in on? Obviously this argument is going nowhere. Stand by while I'm drowned by PvP tears and angst.

    im not having any problems with the update im tanking hard as ever the adjustments are minuscule to a decent tank, i would actually say im op and need a nerf in pve

    Have my baby badass.

    Daddy can teach you to tank

    Teach me daddy.
  • Mordiez
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    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    you cant be the second best tank without being it in pvp too

    That is the line what you focused in on? Obviously this argument is going nowhere. Stand by while I'm drowned by PvP tears and angst.

    im not having any problems with the update im tanking hard as ever the adjustments are minuscule to a decent tank, i would actually say im op and need a nerf in pve

    Have my baby badass.

    Daddy can teach you to tank

    Teach me daddy.

    pm me your race, skill bars, class
  • ContraTempo
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    Because they are hard for glass cannons to kill.

    "My NB did his best 3 shot combo on this guy and he STILL would not die! Wth? Ya gotta nerf that defense!"

    And if you think that's funny, wait till they see the new hybrid builds. Hybrid builds can't work you say? Yeah, the rules have changed. You can argue it all day but there were people on PTS making the tanky mag stam DPS work thanks to new sets and altered skills. You know that's gonna ruin somone's day in Cyrodil.
    ContraTempo
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  • Trashyratchet
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    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    you cant be the second best tank without being it in pvp too

    That is the line what you focused in on? Obviously this argument is going nowhere. Stand by while I'm drowned by PvP tears and angst.

    im not having any problems with the update im tanking hard as ever the adjustments are minuscule to a decent tank, i would actually say im op and need a nerf in pve

    Have my baby badass.

    Daddy can teach you to tank

    Teach me daddy.

    pm me your race, skill bars, class

    Just join our guild, we really need a tank that needs a nerf.
  • Whatzituyah
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    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    you cant be the second best tank without being it in pvp too

    That is the line what you focused in on? Obviously this argument is going nowhere. Stand by while I'm drowned by PvP tears and angst.

    im not having any problems with the update im tanking hard as ever the adjustments are minuscule to a decent tank, i would actually say im op and need a nerf in pve

    Have my baby badass.

    Daddy can teach you to tank

    Teach me daddy.

    pm me your race, skill bars, class

    I would message you but about that... I have 2 tanks both Argonians with Werewolf just to have Werewolf because their isn't a 3rd disease.
  • idk
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    Did not do much tanking. Just one dungeon without changing anything other than allocating CP. It was fine. I even kept block up instead of actively generating stam as usual and drinking a pot took care of my needs.

    Did not hear from the tank in either of the other two runs I did complain either. No issues. Does not seem that Zos screwed things up.
  • Trashyratchet
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    Because they are hard for glass cannons to kill.

    "My NB did his best 3 shot combo on this guy and he STILL would not die! Wth? Ya gotta nerf that defense!"

    And if you think that's funny, wait till they see the new hybrid builds. Hybrid builds can't work you say? Yeah, the rules have changed. You can argue it all day but there were people on PTS making the tanky mag stam DPS work thanks to new sets and altered skills. You know that's gonna ruin somone's day in Cyrodil.

    Exactly...they squeaky wheel and the grease. I'm really over complete rebuilds on a class that really has little use in the PvP world.
  • Trashyratchet
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    Did not do much tanking. Just one dungeon without changing anything other than allocating CP. It was fine. I even kept block up instead of actively generating stam as usual and drinking a pot took care of my needs.

    Did not hear from the tank in either of the other two runs I did complain either. No issues. Does not seem that Zos screwed things up.

    Yeah...that Vampire hits really hard at the the end of Spindle. So, everything should be ok. Thanks for the insight. Looking forward to changing CP around and getting on with it.
  • idk
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    Did not do much tanking. Just one dungeon without changing anything other than allocating CP. It was fine. I even kept block up instead of actively generating stam as usual and drinking a pot took care of my needs.

    Did not hear from the tank in either of the other two runs I did complain either. No issues. Does not seem that Zos screwed things up.

    Yeah...that Vampire hits really hard at the the end of Spindle. So, everything should be ok. Thanks for the insight. Looking forward to changing CP around and getting on with it.

    LOL I get your point that spindle, including the last boss, is a push over to where a tank really is not needed. But stam is stam. The biggest change they made to tanking was block cost reduction. Hit vICP (as a healer) and the tank had no issues.

    Edit: I placed 75 points into block cost reduction as I had before with the rest in stam skill reduction but think I will remove some of the block cost reduction (pure stam tank). We are also able to place more points to reduce the magika, physical and DoT damage reducing the damage we take overall.
    Edited by idk on June 1, 2016 5:36AM
  • Mordiez
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    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    Mordiez wrote: »
    you cant be the second best tank without being it in pvp too

    That is the line what you focused in on? Obviously this argument is going nowhere. Stand by while I'm drowned by PvP tears and angst.

    im not having any problems with the update im tanking hard as ever the adjustments are minuscule to a decent tank, i would actually say im op and need a nerf in pve

    Have my baby badass.

    Daddy can teach you to tank

    Teach me daddy.

    pm me your race, skill bars, class

    I would message you but about that... I have 2 tanks both Argonians with Werewolf just to have Werewolf because their isn't a 3rd disease.

    well i use an argonian tank too and hes unstoppable in any run
  • SublimeSparo
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    Icp got nerfed, dungeons should no longer require tanks. It's trials I'm worried about
    PS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
    vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
    4th Console vMOL clear,
    vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic

    My Tribe
    EU
    High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
    Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
    Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
    Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
    Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
    Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
    Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
    Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
    Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
    Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
    Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
    Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank

    NA
    Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
    Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
    Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
    Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
    You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
    Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
    Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
    Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
    Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
    Can't-Main-Tank -Argonian - sDK offTank
  • Shunravi
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    Tanking still works because its not actually needed in the content. So you wont notice any problems, tank away!
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • Vangy
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Tanking still works because its not actually needed in the content. So you wont notice any problems, tank away!

    ^

    Literally any content save trials and pre-nerf IC dungeons didnt even need tank in the first place. So sure go ahead and use your "tank". Just gimping your group instead of running with 3 DDs and 1 semi-healer+dd... The only place tanks are needed is trials....

    I dont know about PvP tears but if anything, these changes make it even harder to actually play a tanky support build in PvP because of removal of bracing from heavy armour. You need to make up for this loss via sturdy pieces or adding more block cost reduction enchants etc which is not really optimal in PvP.
    (2)V16 Dk- stam dps/stam tank/mag dps
    (2)V16 Sorc- mag dps/stam dps
    (2)V16 nb- stam dps/mag dps
    (1)v16 temp- mag tank/mag dps
    CP: 610 and counting

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  • Volkodav
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    Magicka tanking is the way to go, stamina is purely for blocking and dodge roll only; I can spam my skills away without worry of wasting my primary resources or the issue of losing magicka recovery.

    I run a solid Stamina Nightblade and he totally obliterates everything.So Stamina isnt purely for blocking.I dont need pots,or shields either.It will be interesting to see what changes are made in his style of fighting with the new patch.
    I'm still waiting to finish the download.
    Its only at 7% in the last 45 minutes,so it'll be quite a while yet.
    Edited by Volkodav on June 1, 2016 7:33AM
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Magicka tanking is the way to go, stamina is purely for blocking and dodge roll only; I can spam my skills away without worry of wasting my primary resources or the issue of losing magicka recovery.
    Nice, and what idiotic movie is this from?
    Spawn maybe?
    Hellboy?

    Gods...
    Earthdawn Game Master Role Play Quotes by me:
    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    I get the op's point of view here, the dungeons etc have been lowered so much of maybe because of cp points, tanks are becoming a dying breed, also zos's fixation on hybird is wrong, i know they want us to play the way we want but not in dungeons i would say is the way to go, i understand what he is say about not needing tanks, but it is also coming to the point of not needing healers, some of us in my guild run the pledges (most of the dungeons not all) with 4 dd's, personal i am in the process of doing them solo have cleared fungal grotto on normal on my own
    Main character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike
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