Stamina DK

ducket1

So I am fairly new to stamina builds on this game as previously having magicka builds.

I am currently levelling a stamdk and was wondering what crafted gear I should be looking to have to be effective in PvE and PvP.

I am running 2handed and a bow if that makes a difference!

Horker

Get 5 piece hunding rage with 5 piece marksman, (marksman yewelry 3x and 2 armor /weapon pieces) and then 5 piece hundings (5x armor or 3 armor/2weapons) + use bloodspawn and kena shoulder/head.

hundings are craftable, marskman are very cheap for sale or earned trough pvp reward mail.(for 5K u have a yewelry piece) the monster sets, u prob have them already, or be lucky with AP/gold vendor each weekend

ps.
LEVEL UP BOW asap, u will need the "Hasty Retreat" passive, level 41/50 bow passive, so u have some speed/mobility, thats what stam DK's lack, i play a stamplar, and im very happy with my bow dodge speed!!

Hope this helps abit, have fun, ask anything if needed!

ducket1

Thought it would be hundings so il get that sorted and have a look about for the marksman gear when I'm next on!

Yea I'm sorted with the monster sets, I'm actually really enjoying a Stam build so far, I haven't played one properly at all! But it's more enjoyable than I used to think!

Just need to get vigor for a good heal and il be sorted I think!

Thanks for the help!

Horker

ducket1 wrote: »

Just need to get vigor for a good heal and il be sorted I think!

Thanks for the help!

You're welcome
Vigor is obtained very very fast, got it at level 12 on my recent fresh pvp chars, just by playing non stop smallscale pvp at level 10 and gaining lots of AP.

Ryuho

Stamina DK imo will be top 1 in DB

Julianos

Ryuho wrote: »

Stamina DK imo will be top 1 in DB

stam dk is dead they going to nerf wrecking blow no more empower+ knockback new dots will do %25 more damage(if invest 100 point on mighty) but its not enough for pvp dots are suck on pvp especially burning breath

tho stam dk will be awsome for pve

I will just switch to my NB with DB it has everything for pvp without any weakness.

Tonnopesce

Axorn wrote: »

Ryuho wrote: »

Stamina DK imo will be top 1 in DB

stam dk is dead they going to nerf wrecking blow no more empower+ knockback new dots will do %25 more damage(if invest 100 point on mighty) but its not enough for pvp dots are suck on pvp especially burning breath

tho stam dk will be awsome for pve

I will just switch to my NB with DB it has everything for pvp without any weakness.

Are you serious?
Stamina DK will be at the top of the food chain in pvp when DB hits.
Wrecking Blow spam works only with noobs and pretty much the 70% of the population knows how to counter it now...

Right now i'm rolling a new stamina DK and i'm planning to use 2 Bloodspawn ,4/5 Morkuldin (with S&B it will be 5) and 5 Ravager

Julianos

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

Ryuho wrote: »

Stamina DK imo will be top 1 in DB

stam dk is dead they going to nerf wrecking blow no more empower+ knockback new dots will do %25 more damage(if invest 100 point on mighty) but its not enough for pvp dots are suck on pvp especially burning breath

tho stam dk will be awsome for pve

I will just switch to my NB with DB it has everything for pvp without any weakness.

Are you serious?
Stamina DK will be at the top of the food chain in pvp when DB hits.
Wrecking Blow spam works only with noobs and pretty much the 70% of the population knows how to counter it now...

Right now i'm rolling a new stamina DK and i'm planning to use 2 Bloodspawn ,4/5 Morkuldin (with S&B it will be 5) and 5 Ravager

nuh stam dk is useless except for duels

they should buff the dots like 25k damage in 10 sec that would worth for pvp but right now i got 3800 weapon damage and 31k stamina my unstable flame damage is like 12k in 10 sec its totally useless everyone has frickin heals its like a mosquito bite it doesnt even remove cloak just stupid to me

Septimus_Magna

The pve gear setup for a CP160 stam DK will be pretty interesting.

Morag Tong has been updated so the 5pc is almost a no-brainer, same goes for 5pc Vipers Sting.
Maelstrom daggers are too good to pass up as well.
Mephala has been updated to deal poison dmg as well so that could also be interesting.

Too many good sets but not enough slots to fit them all.

Septimus_Magna

Axorn wrote: »

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

Ryuho wrote: »

Stamina DK imo will be top 1 in DB

stam dk is dead they going to nerf wrecking blow no more empower+ knockback new dots will do %25 more damage(if invest 100 point on mighty) but its not enough for pvp dots are suck on pvp especially burning breath

tho stam dk will be awsome for pve

I will just switch to my NB with DB it has everything for pvp without any weakness.

Are you serious?
Stamina DK will be at the top of the food chain in pvp when DB hits.
Wrecking Blow spam works only with noobs and pretty much the 70% of the population knows how to counter it now...

Right now i'm rolling a new stamina DK and i'm planning to use 2 Bloodspawn ,4/5 Morkuldin (with S&B it will be 5) and 5 Ravager

nuh stam dk is useless except for duels

they should buff the dots like 25k damage in 10 sec that would worth for pvp but right now i got 3800 weapon damage and 31k stamina my unstable flame damage is like 12k in 10 sec its totally useless everyone has frickin heals its like a mosquito bite it doesnt even remove cloak just stupid to me

Uhh good stamina builds with major mending are one of the toughest opponents out there.

In the DB update stam DKs will have perfect synergy with all poison DOTs, the new Combustion passive buffs them by 66%.
Skills like poison arrow (which has been buffed by 12%) also benefit from this passive.

One fire DOT might be easy to out-heal but three strong poison DOTs with Wrecking Blow burst on top of that will be very very hard to out-heal. Poison Injection (morph of Poison Arrow) DOT will also help to execute players, add the buffed Executioner to the mix and low health targets dont stand a chance.

Oh, before I forget, have you seen the Morag Tong 5pc bonus? 15% Increased poison dmg! So poison DOTs do 66% more dmg with the new Combustion passive and there's a set that gives 15% extra dmg to all poison attacks.

Stam DK will be so incredibly OP, prepare yourself for some nerfs the next major content update.

Julianos

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

Ryuho wrote: »

Stamina DK imo will be top 1 in DB

stam dk is dead they going to nerf wrecking blow no more empower+ knockback new dots will do %25 more damage(if invest 100 point on mighty) but its not enough for pvp dots are suck on pvp especially burning breath

tho stam dk will be awsome for pve

I will just switch to my NB with DB it has everything for pvp without any weakness.

Are you serious?
Stamina DK will be at the top of the food chain in pvp when DB hits.
Wrecking Blow spam works only with noobs and pretty much the 70% of the population knows how to counter it now...

Right now i'm rolling a new stamina DK and i'm planning to use 2 Bloodspawn ,4/5 Morkuldin (with S&B it will be 5) and 5 Ravager

nuh stam dk is useless except for duels

they should buff the dots like 25k damage in 10 sec that would worth for pvp but right now i got 3800 weapon damage and 31k stamina my unstable flame damage is like 12k in 10 sec its totally useless everyone has frickin heals its like a mosquito bite it doesnt even remove cloak just stupid to me

Uhh good stamina builds with major mending are one of the toughest opponents out there.

In the DB update stam DKs will have perfect synergy with all poison DOTs, the new Combustion passive buffs them by 66%.
Skills like poison arrow (which has been buffed by 12%) also benefit from this passive.

One fire DOT might be easy to out-heal but three strong poison DOTs with Wrecking Blow burst on top of that will be very very hard to out-heal. Poison Injection (morph of Poison Arrow) DOT will also help to execute players, add the buffed Executioner to the mix and low health targets dont stand a chance.

Oh, before I forget, have you seen the Morag Tong 5pc bonus? 15% Increased poison dmg! So poison DOTs do 66% more dmg with the new Combustion passive and there's a set that gives 15% extra dmg to all poison attacks.

Stam DK will be so incredibly OP, prepare yourself for some nerfs the next major content update.

not sure man i cant slot my both dots anyways there is no enough slots burning breath hard to apply

and i dont really worry about healing i got healers in my group

also eso wiki shows morag tong set 140cp isnt low level ?

silky_soft

Axorn wrote: »

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

Ryuho wrote: »

Stamina DK imo will be top 1 in DB

stam dk is dead they going to nerf wrecking blow no more empower+ knockback new dots will do %25 more damage(if invest 100 point on mighty) but its not enough for pvp dots are suck on pvp especially burning breath

tho stam dk will be awsome for pve

I will just switch to my NB with DB it has everything for pvp without any weakness.

Are you serious?
Stamina DK will be at the top of the food chain in pvp when DB hits.
Wrecking Blow spam works only with noobs and pretty much the 70% of the population knows how to counter it now...

Right now i'm rolling a new stamina DK and i'm planning to use 2 Bloodspawn ,4/5 Morkuldin (with S&B it will be 5) and 5 Ravager

nuh stam dk is useless except for duels

they should buff the dots like 25k damage in 10 sec that would worth for pvp but right now i got 3800 weapon damage and 31k stamina my unstable flame damage is like 12k in 10 sec its totally useless everyone has frickin heals its like a mosquito bite it doesnt even remove cloak just stupid to me

You should pts with morag, it's a joke. Passive now effect poisons, also poison morphs. Stam dk will be unstoppable.

Septimus_Magna

Axorn wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

Ryuho wrote: »

Stamina DK imo will be top 1 in DB

stam dk is dead they going to nerf wrecking blow no more empower+ knockback new dots will do %25 more damage(if invest 100 point on mighty) but its not enough for pvp dots are suck on pvp especially burning breath

tho stam dk will be awsome for pve

I will just switch to my NB with DB it has everything for pvp without any weakness.

Are you serious?
Stamina DK will be at the top of the food chain in pvp when DB hits.
Wrecking Blow spam works only with noobs and pretty much the 70% of the population knows how to counter it now...

Right now i'm rolling a new stamina DK and i'm planning to use 2 Bloodspawn ,4/5 Morkuldin (with S&B it will be 5) and 5 Ravager

nuh stam dk is useless except for duels

they should buff the dots like 25k damage in 10 sec that would worth for pvp but right now i got 3800 weapon damage and 31k stamina my unstable flame damage is like 12k in 10 sec its totally useless everyone has frickin heals its like a mosquito bite it doesnt even remove cloak just stupid to me

Uhh good stamina builds with major mending are one of the toughest opponents out there.

In the DB update stam DKs will have perfect synergy with all poison DOTs, the new Combustion passive buffs them by 66%.
Skills like poison arrow (which has been buffed by 12%) also benefit from this passive.

One fire DOT might be easy to out-heal but three strong poison DOTs with Wrecking Blow burst on top of that will be very very hard to out-heal. Poison Injection (morph of Poison Arrow) DOT will also help to execute players, add the buffed Executioner to the mix and low health targets dont stand a chance.

Oh, before I forget, have you seen the Morag Tong 5pc bonus? 15% Increased poison dmg! So poison DOTs do 66% more dmg with the new Combustion passive and there's a set that gives 15% extra dmg to all poison attacks.

Stam DK will be so incredibly OP, prepare yourself for some nerfs the next major content update.

not sure man i cant slot my both dots anyways there is no enough slots burning breath hard to apply

and i dont really worry about healing i got healers in my group

also eso wiki shows morag tong set 140cp isnt low level ?

It will be v16 or CP160 today with the DB update.
You can get it in medium offensive boxes from the elite vendor in Cyrodiil.

Fire dmg goes against spell resist so its usually better mitigated than poison dmg.
Stam builds also tend to have more weapon dmg (and physical penetration) so poison DOTs are stronger in two ways.

You can also use Acid Spray on a stam DK, it deals poison dmg and poison DOT, its actually pretty good for AOE dmg in pvp. Most people think that Steel Tornado is much better but the high dmg numbers only come from low health targets, in these situations 10k dmg is pointless if the target only has 2k health left.

With Acid Spray you can double dip if you get 5pc Morag Tong (15% poison dmg) and 5pc Marksman (8% bow dmg vs players) so it will be a very good AOE skill for stam DKs.

MaxwellC

Imma debunk here and say stam DK won't be the most OP class come DB. The passive changes increase poison DoTs which is cool but umm just like it's pointed out you can heal through DoTs because they're a joke in PvP. You cannot assume that a class that does good in a 1v1 scenario means they can translate that to the battlefield and preform just as well because I can say without a doubt they don't (since I've fought them before).

What makes stam DK great is two passives and that's about it, I don't see me using the two rework stamina abilities in PvP unless it's a 1v1 but for open world gameplay where I need to dispatch many enemies even though I lack burst damage I will be animation cancelling for my burst. Wrecking blow is gone but that doesn't bother me since I'm using dizzing swing atm for preparation.

Not sure but when I use my igneous on live if a major defile debuffs hits me I still heal 5% less and as far as I know Stam NB is gonna rule PvP especially after watching PTS battles play out.

Now for PvE we gonna dominate so be prepared, there's not going to be "Need a Sorc DPS for WGT" in area chat anymore.

Tonnopesce

Pvp even in the current game state is not all about damage.
Dk's even if stamina have acces to a non target ranged defense, major mending, fossilize (one of the Best stun+ root of the game 2phisical/poison ultimates one of the two gives even 100% phisical penetration, battle roar and a skill that gives major ward+ majior fortitude on top of a + % of all healing recived.

Overhall STAMINA Dk's are the most well rounded class of the game.
And with this patch they get even a boost in the damage.

pod88kk

Personally I use my Stam dk in a support role to keep people occupied and take a beating so that my guildies can finish off stragglers then gimme a hand so these poison dots will be great, especially with shields being 6secs now I can rotate shields and dots and pots then cry havoc and let lose the dogs of War.......... Woof

dodgehopper_ESO

Axorn wrote: »

Ryuho wrote: »

Stamina DK imo will be top 1 in DB

stam dk is dead they going to nerf wrecking blow no more empower+ knockback new dots will do %25 more damage(if invest 100 point on mighty) but its not enough for pvp dots are suck on pvp especially burning breath

tho stam dk will be awsome for pve

I will just switch to my NB with DB it has everything for pvp without any weakness.

The breath is for fracture and slow, not for the damage. Damage is just bonus.

Necrelios

Hundings Rage is a great set for Stamina like others have stated. I like to duel wield with Leki's weapons for the 2 piece weapon damage bonus since I'm a scrub that can't finish VMA and get those special daggers. I like to run with 3 piece agility jewelry as well. That gives you two more slots for another 2 set bonus for stamina or more weapon damage. I like mixing it up from time to time depending on what I'm doing. There's a lot of great options right now, and I like to peruse the guild kiosks and put different things together.

jarrandub17_ESO

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

The pve gear setup for a CP160 stam DK will be pretty interesting.

Morag Tong has been updated so the 5pc is almost a no-brainer, same goes for 5pc Vipers Sting.
Maelstrom daggers are too good to pass up as well.
Mephala has been updated to deal poison dmg as well so that could also be interesting.

Too many good sets but not enough slots to fit them all.

Where do you get the Moraq Tong Set?

Lynx7386

Axorn has been complaining about dk's for a week now, just ignore him.

gamerguy757

Wow these are great builds! I'm working on OP that is a little differernt, but still has very high Weapon Damage.

5x Glory (2 Rings, 3 Armor [Well-Fitted])
3x Nightmother (1 Necklace, 2 Armor [Well-fitted])
2x Leki's Focus (Mace/Shield [Sharpened/Sturdy])
1x Molag Kena (Medium [Impenetrable])
1x Valkyn Skoria OR Blood Spawn (medium, [Impenetrable])
1x Maelstrom Greatsword (Precise)
Warrior, Serpent or Tower Mundus
Redguard Race

the buff to Heavy Armor makes this set dangerous. The 5piece bonus of glory gives a 9% chance to dodge an attack when light or heavy attacking, which in a stamDK, you're weaving with light attack/Poison Claw. Also, whenever you get hit, your WD increases as well. Plus your health will be around 30k with passives. All sets listed except Valkyn give 129 more WD, so that goes to a total of over 900 extra WD with enchants.
The WELLFITTED trait for decrease in dodge rolling, which, with the Medium armor passives, and purple armor (golding it isn't necessary) will give a total of around 29% decrease in Dodge rolling, excluding CP. Then with Redguard, you never run out of Stamina due to the Racial Passives. OR you can switch out the helms/shoulders for 2x Engine Guardian.

thoughts?

KingYogi415

Redgaurd vs imperial?

Lynx7386

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Redgaurd vs imperial?

Khajiit.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

I too am on the quest to build the perfect Stam DK. I think Hundings is a no-brainer for a basic crafted 5 piece for pretty much any stam build. Not saying its best in slot, but its a great place to start. I am working on leveling 3 weapon lines, DW, Bow, 2H. I plan to go DW/Bow in PVE, and 2H/Bow in PVP.

I am currently running, 5 Piece Twice Born Star, 2 Mephala, 3 agility, and Maelstrom weapons in PVE. Stam DKs are probably OP for PVE DPS this patch, but it is dependent on VMA dagger/axe. Without VMA weapons, hard to call them OP. I think there are a lot of possible options here. Some combo of Hawks eye, TBS, Morag Tong, Hundings, Toxic Defiance, Vicious Ophidian, Viper, could all be good. It will probably be some time before the math wizards know exactly what is best. Hundings is a good place to start. If you dont want to spring for agility jewelry, some of these other sets will be almost as good if not better, and they are much cheaper. I went ahead and made a gold set of TBS, just because I want to be able to test against other things, and I generally run with Warhorn most of the time. I have a gold set of Hundings for my Stamblade, so once I am a little more comfortable with the rotation, I will do some testing.

I went Khajiit for the extra crit. If truly trying to min/max DPS for a raid setting, Khajiit is king. If not, Redgaurd or Imperial would be my choice. You are trading health for sustain, so dealers choice. Stam DK sustain is surprisingly good. I did a normal maw run yesterday with no sustain issues before I realized I had 100 points into magic cost reduction instead of stamina. Haha. They are also a squishy lot. They basically have no healing, or really any mitigation to speak of. I dont have Vigor or bone shield yet, but I certainly wont run them in PVE anyway.

CyrusArya

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Redgaurd vs imperial?

Depends. If you want to make the best possible PvE tank while maintaining the ability to perform all other roles effectively (but not optimally), go Imperial. If you want the best possible PvE dps but less than optimal tanking/PvP performance, go kitty khat. Now when it comes to PvP, Redguard stamina DK is one of the strongest setups I've ever experienced, and probably one of the best possible builds on paper. Let's just say Adrenaline Rush+Helping Hands+Battle Roar is some incredible synergy...to say the least.

Personally I'd say go Redguard to get the most out of the class in all aspects of the game.

Takes-No-Prisoner

alexandrutenhove wrote: »

Get 5 piece hunding rage with 5 piece marksman, (marksman yewelry 3x and 2 armor /weapon pieces) and then 5 piece hundings (5x armor or 3 armor/2weapons) + use bloodspawn and kena shoulder/head.

hundings are craftable, marskman are very cheap for sale or earned trough pvp reward mail.(for 5K u have a yewelry piece) the monster sets, u prob have them already, or be lucky with AP/gold vendor each weekend

ps.
LEVEL UP BOW asap, u will need the "Hasty Retreat" passive, level 41/50 bow passive, so u have some speed/mobility, thats what stam DK's lack, i play a stamplar, and im very happy with my bow dodge speed!!

Hope this helps abit, have fun, ask anything if needed!

^^^^ This. Though I wanted to point out in this post that while the info above is pretty good set up, I run 5x Chemist in place of hundings. I have x5 Marksman's, Kena and soon to be Bloodspawn shoulder.

Why Chemist? Well for starters I PvP a lot. While I do not get a static ~300 weap damage + extra crit hundings provides, I really like the health bonus' of x2/ x3 pc from Chemist for Cyrodiiil. The 4x pc has a Weap/Spell dmg slot with the x5 pc being the potion buff. It is pretty gimmicky, however I use potions as part of my rotations back when I played 2 different Argonian toons. The behavior kind of stuck, but in a good way. Where I use the x5 pc bonus is when I pop detect potions on unsuspecting enemies or use a tri-pot to help heal me/burst down a Templar after I fear him. It is certainly not a set for everyone, but just wanted to let the OP know about a different avenue I took with Chemist buffing my DPS, and Marksman being my sustain set.

My guy is a Redguard, NB, Vamp. Though I have a Khajiti StamDK I want to work on for Cyrodiil once DB drops. I am pretty excited to plop that set on my DK and see how it runs.