Would you like ZOS to make a dedicated PvP dueling campaign or arena?

NordSwordnBoard

Imagine! They could do some sort of match-making under activity finder so you could even go random.

Abob

Yeah but without CP.

Mr.Hmm

Definitely without CP.

You want a true 1vs1 fight? lets do it without CP then.

bloodenragedb14_ESO

a campaign dedicated to dueling? how would that be different from a normal campaign? furthermore how would you stop people from abusing it for 'free ap'?

I mean, id be cool with a extra campaign that had some form of restriction on pvp, like a pvp flag. not only would duelers love it, since they could flag off all the audience, but pve'ers would love it since those who wanted to explore cyrodiil without gankers would flock to it. But without some kind of restriction to a 'duel' campaign, it would literally be the same thing as a normal campaign, just gankers would flock to it for free ap

NordSwordnBoard

bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »

a campaign dedicated to dueling? how would that be different from a normal campaign? furthermore how would you stop people from abusing it for 'free ap'?

I mean, id be cool with a extra campaign that had some form of restriction on pvp, like a pvp flag. not only would duelers love it, since they could flag off all the audience, but pve'ers would love it since those who wanted to explore cyrodiil without gankers would flock to it. But without some kind of restriction to a 'duel' campaign, it would literally be the same thing as a normal campaign, just gankers would flock to it for free ap

I'm thinking you use the campaign template with 3 safe or neutral zones, no keeps, towns, dolmens, or other objectives. Only landmarks or as you say "flagged" arena locations. It literally could be stripped down to a massive field for dueling. No AP gains either, that's not why you're there. So that eliminates gankings and such. Add leaderboards or at least track your W/L.

NordSwordnBoard

Abob wrote: »

Yeah but without CP.

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

Definitely without CP.

You want a true 1vs1 fight? lets do it without CP then.

I agree, similar to current campaign setup, it could have no VR, no CP, & CP allowed versions.

EDIT: VR won't matter anyway in about a month.

LegacyDM

Dueling is dumb. Pvp mechanics werent designed around dueling. They were design around group play. Furthermore, it doesn't represent real in game world conditions. Let's say I'm a vamp and my opponent knows it. All he has to do is slot anti vamp skills before the fight and voalla he has a major advantage. Does that mean every time I want to duel I gotta remove vamp? Most dueler a are sword and board wearing impenetrable stacking dks or mine laying shield stacking sorcs that are near impossible to kill anyways. Such a waste of time. Means I gotta slot shield breaker before the fight and log into my stamina NB so I can dodge roll for infinity.

I would support group pvp arenas, but this game was not made for 1v1. I've seen some really good duelers but they suck at group play. Dueling does not = skill and people promoting this nonsense are the elitists ruining cyrodil.

NordSwordnBoard

LegacyDM wrote: »

Dueling is dumb. Pvp mechanics wasn't designed around dueling. They were design around group play. Furthermore, it doesn't represent real in game world conditions. Let's say I'm a vamp and my opponent knows it. All he has to do is slot anti vamp skills before the fight and voalla he has a major advantage. Does that mean every time I want to duel I gotta remove vamp? Most dueler a are sword and board wearing impenetrable stacking dks or mine laying shield stacking sorcs that are near impossible to kill anyways. Such a waste of time. Means I gotta slot shield breaker before the fight and log into my stamina NB so I can dodge roll for infinity.

I would support group pvp arenas, but this game was not made for 1v1. I've seen some really good duelers but they suck at group play. Dueling does not = skill and people promoting this nonsense are the elitists ruining cyrodil.

I think dueling serves a purpose for guilds or even just friends that want to help people learn tactics from basic stuff up to complex strategies or counter moves. I have an alt just for this purpose to use with guild mates. It can be group or 1v1, up to the players.

It's not strictly about winning, its about learning from your deaths sans horse simulator.

bedlom

They have already confirmed dueling and PVP battlegrounds you know.

Wolfkeks

Yeees, that would be awesome!

NordSwordnBoard

bedlom wrote: »

They have already confirmed dueling and PVP battlegrounds you know.

True, although haven't heard much about it since - and most of the other things mentioned at the time have already been implemented. They gave no launch date for dueling, so lets show them we're still interested, not interested, or disinterested.

altemriel

small-scale pvp arenas are in production!

WalkingLegacy

There is no need for a Cyrodiil dueling campaign. Game just needs dueling in it.

NBrookus

I would be in support of dueling arenas, especially if other players can watch. (Gold sink: NPC that takes bets.) Let the players make the rules: CP or not, 1v1, 12v12, 4v8... whatever. NOT counted in Cyrodiil pop caps of course, since a the rest of the campaign could be empty if everyone queues to watch a big fight!

bloodenragedb14_ESO

LegacyDM wrote: »

Dueling is dumb. Pvp mechanics werent designed around dueling. They were design around group play. Furthermore, it doesn't represent real in game world conditions. Let's say I'm a vamp and my opponent knows it. All he has to do is slot anti vamp skills before the fight and voalla he has a major advantage. Does that mean every time I want to duel I gotta remove vamp? Most dueler a are sword and board wearing impenetrable stacking dks or mine laying shield stacking sorcs that are near impossible to kill anyways. Such a waste of time. Means I gotta slot shield breaker before the fight and log into my stamina NB so I can dodge roll for infinity.

I would support group pvp arenas, but this game was not made for 1v1. I've seen some really good duelers but they suck at group play. Dueling does not = skill and people promoting this nonsense are the elitists ruining cyrodil.

Dueling is also a way to test skill numbers and ratios, allowing people to understand their class better in a pvp scenario, as well as test class balance issues.

some people rp dueling, thats fine
some do it to test mechanics
some just like to do it

with the absence of any official way to duel, its best to accept you will see them in cyrodiil from time to time

Tandor

I have no personal interest in dueling or any other form of PvP, but if it is to be introduced then I'm all in favour of it being limited to set campaigns and/or arenas. I certainly don't want it in PvE areas, and that would fit with ZOS saying they will be keeping PvP and PvE separate in future.

Makkir

Realize IF this ever happens, people will start complaining about 1v1 and asking for balances around that, which is NOT the fundamentals upon which this game was built.

mar1ano1987nrb18_ESO

Yes, but without AP gaining. If you want AP go participate in the huge pvp map called Cyrodiil.

NordSwordnBoard

Makkir wrote: »

Realize IF this ever happens, people will start complaining about 1v1 and asking for balances around that, which is NOT the fundamentals upon which this game was built.

Well, theres no pleasing some people. I agree with you that this will cause whining. Anything new those people aren't good at always will. Theres no need to balance anything based on dueling other than your own setup.

NordSwordnBoard

Private or arena based, one thing it should allow is dueling people in your own alliance. That you currently can't do without making an alt.

Cously

Player VS Player Arenas

1x1
2x2
3x3
4x4
12x12
24x24

CP and non-CP
Leaderboard
Rewards

KingDuncanVII

I'd like to see 50v50 Battlefield, 20v20 Battlefield, 4v4 Arena, and 1v1 Arena.

Uriel_Nocturne

Didn't vote as the poll is sickeningly biased...

vladimilianoub17_ESO1

Yes,but not limited to a zone.Make it so you can invite to duel a player anywhere outside of cities.Like most dueling systems are.

NordSwordnBoard

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Didn't vote as the poll is sickeningly biased...

Profound!

nimander99

Dude, its been confirmed on multiple different platforms of communication that we will be getting pvp arenas and dueling. Enough with these threads already, they said they are working on them so they are.

notimetocare

bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »

a campaign dedicated to dueling? how would that be different from a normal campaign? furthermore how would you stop people from abusing it for 'free ap'?

I mean, id be cool with a extra campaign that had some form of restriction on pvp, like a pvp flag. not only would duelers love it, since they could flag off all the audience, but pve'ers would love it since those who wanted to explore cyrodiil without gankers would flock to it. But without some kind of restriction to a 'duel' campaign, it would literally be the same thing as a normal campaign, just gankers would flock to it for free ap

Easy. Disable AP gains. Fixed.