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Stamina purge?

olsborg
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Magicka can purge with efficient purge/cleanse basicly as many times as they want. Templar and stamina templar do have access to the best purge in their class trees, but what about stam dk, sorc and nb? Is there a need for a stamina purge?
Edited by olsborg on May 20, 2016 9:32AM

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PvP only

Stamina purge? 104 votes

Yes
26%
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No
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  • Knightpanther
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    No
    Why does every class have to have exactly the same thing?
    May as well just have one class in PvPer cos im guessing that's what this is about?

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  • FatKidHatchets
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    No
    Have a magic friend purge you.
  • Cously
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  • bertenburnyb16_ESO
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    No
    Can mag have inf dodge roll
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  • Asmael
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    No
    Cously wrote: »
    Poisons.

    Balance poisons so that we don't need a stamina purge.

    I'd like to avoid bandaid fixes #ZosStyle, TYVM.
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  • mtwiggz
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    Yes
    WTB cloak purge
  • EsoRecon
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    No
    Making all classes play the same doesn't equal a fun playing experience.
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  • OGLezard
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    Can magicka get a heal as good as vigor(15k over 5 seconds)?? If so sure stamina can have a purge
    Edited by OGLezard on May 20, 2016 12:13PM
  • W0lf_z13
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    No
    although part of me says yes ( due to the poisons coming out in DB ) .... the majority of me says no, i would rather be able to play classes that play differently/have different abilities ... IMO it would be quite boring if every class was able to do the exact same thing.... ( pretty much one of the main reasons i only use WB on one of my 2 stam builds )
    Edited by W0lf_z13 on May 20, 2016 12:13PM
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  • Derra
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    No
    Purge is already (too) powerful as is (especially for templars).

    The right way is to reduce the power of these abilities or combinations not giving them to everybody/build but reduce their efficiency a tiny bit.
    So basically the opposite of what happened to harness magica/shieldstacking.
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  • hydrocynus
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    Doesn't evasion or one of its morphs purge?
    My internet is invalid
  • Rune_Relic
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    Yes
    Cously wrote: »
    Poisons.

    +1. stamina builds need an effective counter too.
    Until some other form of negation is made available.
    Anything that can be exploited will be exploited
  • danno8
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    No
    Although poisons may be imbalanced (no ****), I have to say no.

    There is no magicka shuffle, or magicka expedition (well NB have both but of course they do), but my Templar doesn't. He does have a Purge though. Different classes, different things.
  • DeadlyRecluse
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    No
    Stop trying to make everything the same.
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  • NeillMcAttack
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    No
    Group play! Team game! ALLIANCE war!

    Am I getting through to you?

    Out of curiosity, would you be in favour of just having one resource bar for all skills and opening every ability to any class or spec?!?
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  • olsborg
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    Yes
    hydrocynus wrote: »
    Doesn't evasion or one of its morphs purge?

    It purges snares and roots only, not dots or other debuffs.

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  • Browiseth
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    No
    Here's another "every class should be the same" thread i guess
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    • EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
    • EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
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    • EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
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  • idk
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    No
    Keeping all morphs if purge magika is just fine. There really isn't any logic to make a stam morph other than wanting to eliminate stam and mag builds by making it all one energy.

    I like being forced to choose. I do not want one size fits all.
  • GreenhaloX
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    Yes
    I saw a post previously on this general discussion section, but can't seem to find it again. It shows a snapshot of his character (looks like dual-wielded) that has a stamina rating at almost 40000. So, with that stat, it wouldn't do much more for him, but for those that have between 16000-20000 stam stat (I'm guessing this seem to be the average), it would help much with the stamina purge option. Especially with DK, the hard attack abilities are stamina-based, and during a world boss fight, 5-7 hard hits (with animation cancelling) deplete the stam, and you're forced to stick within 3-4 hard hits at a time to save enough stam for dodging/rolling.
  • imenace
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    No
    so many idiotic streamers think that every class needs everything, why? why does every class need mobility, tankiness, shields, every major buff and heals out the ass? why cant the classes be unique in their own way? one of the biggest streamers always goes on rant about mag DKs and how they cant tank 20 people and win.. *** rRidiculous
  • imenace
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    No
    so many idiotic streamers think that every class needs everything, why? why does every class need mobility, tankiness, shields, every major buff and heals out the ass? why cant the classes be unique in their own way? one of the biggest streamers always goes on rant about mag DKs and how they cant tank 20 people and win.. *** rRidiculous
  • Ghost-Shot
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    No
    Balance is not one spec having easy access to every defensive mechanic.
  • AOECAPS
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    No
    You can have access to my stamina Templars cleanse if i can get NB debuffs,DK wings/take flight and Sorc Streak..if you want to be able to cleanse you have a magicka dump with support skill line purge.
  • lardvader
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    No
    No need, just make a templar.....
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  • AOECAPS
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    No
    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    I saw a post previously on this general discussion section, but can't seem to find it again. It shows a snapshot of his character (looks like dual-wielded) that has a stamina rating at almost 40000. So, with that stat, it wouldn't do much more for him, but for those that have between 16000-20000 stam stat (I'm guessing this seem to be the average), it would help much with the stamina purge option. Especially with DK, the hard attack abilities are stamina-based, and during a world boss fight, 5-7 hard hits (with animation cancelling) deplete the stam, and you're forced to stick within 3-4 hard hits at a time to save enough stam for dodging/rolling.
    16-20k Stam? Those aren't DD stamina numbers lmao hell when I tank I have more stamina than that

  • GreenhaloX
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    Yes
    Yeah, I think it's quite low too. Live and learn on the first go around in this game. If I create a new character, I learned enough to be able to get higher stam. Not sure how you can tank and get a boost, though. What does that mean when you tank to get the boost?

  • ParaNostram
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    No
    Ya'll already gained a *** shield, stop asking for caster ***
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    No
    There's no magicka shuffle (if you're not a nb), no speed buff, and you cant dodge roll or block with magicka.
    Edited by LadyNalcarya on May 21, 2016 6:31PM
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  • Cously
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    Yes
    It's not hard to do the math. You only have 12 Skill Slots, you would have to sacrifice a slot for the stamina purge on your bar, that's up to the player. What is *** is being impossible to have that option, so give me a break with the bull of class being the same, yeah when is about PVP there are defensive mechanics everyone should have access too and make the proper sacrifices in their skill bar. So give me a break.

    Signed: A one character only person Magicka DK in pvp.
  • Vaoh
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    No
    Let's just give Stamina and Magicka a morph on every skill, so there is no variety whatsoever in what people do and therefore balance.... it's unbelievable how many players would be fine with this.

    It's because of this mindset that a Hybrid build can only find uniqueness in the DK, Templar, and Sorcerer classes. The Nightblade class has access to all of the important skills regardless of Magicka/Stamina focus. A Hybrid Nightblade is exactly the same as one focused into one Stat pool, and I'm afraid this may become the case in the future for other classes as well.

    Let classes feel a little unique. Templar is the class you want to use if searching for an efficient purge as a Stamina build.
    Edited by Vaoh on May 21, 2016 6:49PM
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