How will you adapt to the Wrecking Blow nerf post DB?

KILLu4aCORONA

With the changes to Wrecking Blow coming in DB, Stam DK's and Stam Sorcs in particular will have to make the choice between the cc or the empower. I'm personally thinking the cc will still be best imo. I also agree with the changes. The skill needed to be tweaked a bit for proper balance. With some advanced animation cancelling, I don't see the nerf being a large problem. Just curious how the rest of the player base plans om handling the change to the skill .

Vangy

Swap to dizzying swing. Life goes on. Empower from WB most of the time was landing on the heavy attack used to cancel wb animation anyway. Sure im going to miss the WB>ult but I guess with the new DBoS , DS>DbOS is goin to wreck face anyway.

ToRelax

Except for DKs Dizzying Swing was always the better morph imo...

Sunburnt_Penguin

The Empower was marginal benefit anyway IMO, it's the CC which *** people up.

No idea how this WB nerf is actually going to accomplish anything worthwhile.

WillhelmBlack

Never used it anyway. I prefer the combat system.

olsborg

Hope ppl stop spamming the shizzle out of this..

Vangy

olsborg wrote: »

Hope ppl stop spamming the shizzle out of this..

Doubt so... Short of class stamina spenders like SA and Jabs, for non-snb stamina has a grand total of 2 moves.... Flurry and uppercut... Flurry still sucks in PvP.. Rally is still locked into 2hander tree... So its just going to be DS DS DS DS > DBOS instead of WB WB WB WB ULT

Van_0S

I see no problems with Nerf blow!

Lokey0024

Empower added around 4k dmg to take flight or another 2 to 2.5k to WB itself. It needed tuneing and this is a good move. Dizzying swings might be the better pick imo.

jarrandub17_ESO

Vangy wrote: »

Swap to dizzying swing. Life goes on. Empower from WB most of the time was landing on the heavy attack used to cancel wb animation anyway. Sure im going to miss the WB>ult but I guess with the new DBoS , DS>DbOS is goin to wreck face anyway.

what is DBoS?

Rohamad_Ali

Don't use it myself now .

KILLu4aCORONA

jarrandub17_ESO wrote: »

what is DBoS?

Dawnbreaker of Smiting

Tormy

Been using dizzy swing on live since they announced the WB would be nerfed. Little harder cutting through shields but over all not bad

Sunburnt_Penguin

Lokey0024 wrote: »

Empower added around 4k dmg to take flight or another 2 to 2.5k to WB itself. It needed tuneing and this is a good move. Dizzying swings might be the better pick imo.

Never have been hit with ~20k TF or 10-12.5k WB.

Desommettor

I think it is actually a buff wont have to waste my cc with WB anymore

holosoul

Desommettor wrote: »

I think it is actually a buff wont have to waste my cc with WB anymore

If you think it's a buff then you are taking time, space, and your opponent's turn for granted.

DeadlyRecluse

Empower shouldn't apply to the skill that granted it.

Boom, problem solved. The current Empower mechanic, when attached to a DPS skill, screams at new players to chainspam it, regardless of whether or not it is good play.

Wreuntzylla

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Empower shouldn't apply to the skill that granted it.

Boom, problem solved. The current Empower mechanic, when attached to a DPS skill, screams at new players to chainspam it, regardless of whether or not it is good play.

Extending that further, games typically do not pair meaningful damage with cc. ZoS trods a different path...

Valencer

Seriously contemplating using 1h+s with Invasion and Reverb bash for 3s+ stuns and then using Wrecking Blow for burst damage anyway.

Problem is that this approach forces stam DK (and stam sorc) into 1h+s just to have any kind of proper hard CC.

MrTarkanian48

I'm on console and haven't been able to test Flurry, but it looks fast on PTS vids I've seen. Hoping its now more viable for PVP.

I plan on giving it a shot on my stam sorc since I can get major brutality from crit surge, and could empower dots with maelstrom daggers.

Lokey0024

Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »

Lokey0024 wrote: »

Empower added around 4k dmg to take flight or another 2 to 2.5k to WB itself. It needed tuneing and this is a good move. Dizzying swings might be the better pick imo.

Never have been hit with ~20k TF or 10-12.5k WB.

19k tooltip take flight or 14k WB tool tip. 20%

I hit 10k wb alot. Use shadow mundus because there are less ways to stack crit then Regen or straight damage.

Yung_deezy818

People will find empowerment through plenty other skills and still spam the CC DS and it still be a problem. No one cared about empower it was the cc that people complain about. Plent of combos to fill in on all builds (just have to be willing to change bars) or say screw empowerment. For ex dk use poison injection- unstable flame-DS-empowering chains-TF- Exctuioner. Though plenty of different ability combos are better then going for the empowerment make up imo

Lokey0024

Yung_deezy818 wrote: »

People will find empowerment through plenty other skills and still spam the CC DS and it still be a problem. No one cared about empower it was the cc that people complain about. Plent of combos to fill in on all builds (just have to be willing to change bars) or say screw empowerment. For ex dk use poison injection- unstable flame-DS-empowering chains-TF- Exctuioner. Though plenty of different ability combos are better then going for the empowerment make up imo

This catches alot off guard at the beginning of Fights. Just wish it was going to be poison chains wad thinking dbos might be better for this particular combo as an opener with dot to keep them on the defensive.

Serenityx

jarrandub17_ESO wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

Swap to dizzying swing. Life goes on. Empower from WB most of the time was landing on the heavy attack used to cancel wb animation anyway. Sure im going to miss the WB>ult but I guess with the new DBoS , DS>DbOS is goin to wreck face anyway.

what is DBoS?

Fighters guild ultimate morph if you didnt know. I wondered this for a while too >_<

Animus-ESO

Honestly If they would make WB block bash interrupt-able I think the skill would be completely balanced. Same with with frags and dark flare. All problems solved.

Yung_deezy818

Lokey0024 wrote: »

This catches alot off guard at the beginning of Fights. Just wish it was going to be poison chains wad thinking dbos might be better for this particular combo as an opener with dot to keep them on the defensive.

Yeah my dk just is full of dot atm and I love take fighting up on top of keeps and towers. But may switch to DBos. I personally switched to sword and board /2h and rock a different setup to kill after update. Some nice changes. Can't wait to unleash this new Stam dk.

Lokey0024

Yung_deezy818 wrote: »

Lokey0024 wrote: »

This catches alot off guard at the beginning of Fights. Just wish it was going to be poison chains wad thinking dbos might be better for this particular combo as an opener with dot to keep them on the defensive.

Yeah my dk just is full of dot atm and I love take fighting up on top of keeps and towers. But may switch to DBos. I personally switched to sword and board /2h and rock a different setup to kill after update. Some nice changes. Can't wait to unleash this new Stam dk.

Tried a full dot build with flurry. Bow/dw. No burst heal and my dots kept getting purged. I swear i dont see a templar for a week then make this build and that's all i see.

ManiumXub17_ESO

Nothing really to 'handle' in my opinion. Stampede and fossilize is more than enough CC. Even if it's not I'll just swap to bow and take advantage of the bonus to poison that DK's are getting.

KILLu4aCORONA

ManiumXub17_ESO wrote: »

Stampede and fossilize is more than enough CC.

Stampede adds a snare, no cc involved

AverageJo3Gam3r

Won't impact me at all. I've been running fossilize since forever to land the first WB. Will continue to use the empower morph for OP take flights.

ManiumXub17_ESO

KILLu4aCORONA wrote: »

Stampede adds a snare, no cc involved

True, but it still helps to land a follow up shot.