DB changes, best races for each class?

prax07

With the incoming changes with DB, and since I only have one character so far, what are suggestions on the best race to use for DK, NB, and Templar once DB hits?

Dracan_Fontom

Play as any race you want. All can be viable if played right.

emily3989

Dracan_Fontom wrote: »

Play as any race you want. All can be viable if played right.

Not according to the masses. If you don't pick the right race, you are going to be garbage. I have been arguing this for a while and cast off as a noob since my first post about it.

Personally, I feel you can compensate for any racial deficiency just fine using CP, enchants, etc.

And OP, it all depends on what they are going to be doing: mag/sta/tank/dps/etc. There is no perfect race, even for the min/maxers of the world, for a class in general terms.

Also, you may decide to change your playstyle, so you might pick a stamina buffed race, then decide you like magika better. I have a magika NB that is a wood elf - sure his mag is not capped, but I rarely run out of stamina, which can come in handy.

If you are really concerned about it, you can just drop cash every DLC once race changes are for sale, and FOTM every quarter.

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prax07

Looking at the posts it seems that dunmer is getting messed with, so just want to not start on a character and find out thirty levels in that I should've gone with a different race. Like my character is a dumner sorcerer, and they're changing rzcial and stuff to poison? I don't need poison on my sorcerer.

Foxic

prax07 wrote: »

Looking at the posts it seems that dunmer is getting messed with, so just want to not start on a character and find out thirty levels in that I should've gone with a different race. Like my character is a dumner sorcerer, and they're changing rzcial and stuff to poison? I don't need poison on my sorcerer.

What? Where on earth did you read that. Dunmer is keeping fire damage

wayfarerx

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

prax07 wrote: »

Looking at the posts it seems that dunmer is getting messed with, so just want to not start on a character and find out thirty levels in that I should've gone with a different race. Like my character is a dumner sorcerer, and they're changing rzcial and stuff to poison? I don't need poison on my sorcerer.

What? Where on earth did you read that. Dunmer is keeping fire damage

This. Some Dunmer stamina dragonknights are unhappy that dragonknight stamina morphs are becoming poison damage and thus no longer benefit from the Dunmer fire passive, but the race itself is not changing.

Foxic

For any healer- altmer or breton

Dps-

Stamina dps- khajit

Magicka templar/magicka nb/magicka dk- dunmer

Magicka sorc- dunmer/altmer(the difference is negligible)

I dont think tanking race matters, but i guess i would pick a nord?

This is all for pve btw

OrphanHelgen

you want pve or pvp? Solo play or group play?

dday3six

emily3989 wrote: »

Dracan_Fontom wrote: »

Play as any race you want. All can be viable if played right.

Not according to the masses. If you don't pick the right race, you are going to be garbage. I have been arguing this for a while and cast off as a noob since my first post about it.

Personally, I feel you can compensate for any racial deficiency just fine using CP, enchants, etc.

And OP, it all depends on what they are going to be doing: mag/sta/tank/dps/etc. There is no perfect race, even for the min/maxers of the world, for a class in general terms.

Also, you may decide to change your playstyle, so you might pick a stamina buffed race, then decide you like magika better. I have a magika NB that is a wood elf - sure his mag is not capped, but I rarely run out of stamina, which can come in handy.

If you are really concerned about it, you can just drop cash every DLC once race changes are for sale, and FOTM every quarter.

It's not a matter of lacking viability. Rather a differential in output ceiling, particularly relating to PVE DPS. Take Magicka DK for example. A Dunmer will outperform other races because it has a 7% native increase to the majority of a Magicka DK damage, and nothing in gearing or CP can close that gap. A skilled player can do well regardless, but that same player will put up higher numbers with a race that best complements their class.

Intended use is also to be considered. Take your example of Magicka NB. Bosmer works very well for Magicka NB in PVP because the greater Stamina and Stamina Regen increase access to dodging, blocking/block casting, and break-free. The increased Stealth damage also benefits some NB playstyles.

Stannum

wayfarerx wrote: »

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

prax07 wrote: »

Looking at the posts it seems that dunmer is getting messed with, so just want to not start on a character and find out thirty levels in that I should've gone with a different race. Like my character is a dumner sorcerer, and they're changing rzcial and stuff to poison? I don't need poison on my sorcerer.

What? Where on earth did you read that. Dunmer is keeping fire damage

This. Some Dunmer stamina dragonknights are unhappy that dragonknight stamina morphs are becoming poison damage and thus no longer benefit from the Dunmer fire passive, but the race itself is not changing.

Anyway thay will be stronger cause of poison is scaling on weapon dmg and use weapon dmg CP. So fire dmg with dunmer benefit will be less effective then poison dmg without dunmer benefit for stamina builds.

imenace

stamina - redguard
magicka - high elf
case closed

Turelus

Well racially I don't think there are any changes yet.

Also you need to state best at what? DPS/Tank/Heal? PvE/PvP?

Considering racial change is confirmed to be a thing you'll be able to buy (although who knows for how much) there is no consequence if you do make the wrong choice.

Otherwise all I can say is what others have which is play something you want to play and work around the bonuses, everything is viable and can complete all content in the game.

dday3six

imenace wrote: »

stamina - redguard
magicka - high elf
case closed

It's not quite that simple. Khajiit out DPS' Reguard in PVE, and Dunmer is better than Altmer for Magicka DK and Nightblade, also arguably Templar. PVP is also a whole another layer of decisions, and some times Magicka builds with use a Stamina race for more blocking, dodging and breakfree.

RedFireDisco

I still like Imperial for stam builds. Regen vs 12% health.

You need health in pvp, but if you don't want to put any points or enchants into health, then Imperial will allow you to max out damage.

Crit damage isn't what it was as most people run at least 3 impen or more plus champ points in resilient.

In short, I'd always give up crit and regen for attribute increases.

Stannum

I'll take my argonian DK and respec her to stamina )

Van_0S

prax07 wrote: »

With the incoming changes with DB, and since I only have one character so far, what are suggestions on the best race to use for DK, NB, and Templar once DB hits?

For PvP , Bosmer.
For PvE , any.

Sunburnt_Penguin

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