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Life After Proxy Det

  • Xsorus
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    I have no problem with them nerfing Prox Det against single targets or even small groups of 5...

    However against 10 players its basically doing slightly less damage then it does now....Which it shouldn't.....it should do more
  • Serenityx
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    OP can you explain to me why on earth an AOE should be able to hit 15k on a single target. With the current buffs it recieved its clearly not functioning like a proper AOE. Im honestly happy to see it being balanced
    Edited by Serenityx on May 20, 2016 6:53AM
  • SneaK
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    In PvE it will still be really good, mobs stack enough to still get max damage out of proxy. In PvP I think it's more situation based now, and should go in as a flex when needed (ie. fighting larger groups, defending keeps, the bridge, etc.).
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  • Waffennacht
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    Serenityx wrote: »
    OP can you explain to me why on earth an AOE should be able to hit 15k on a single target. With the current buffs it recieved its clearly not functioning like a proper AOE. Im honestly happy to see it being balanced

    Food for thought: that's 15k over the course of 8 seconds. That's just under 2k dps per target.... even as is Liquid Lightning deals 2.5k dps per target.

    As is, the dps of Proxy is less than most other AoEs. Other AoEs are just far easier to avoid.

    After the nerf, the dps of Proxy will only be approximately 1.5 - 1.7k dps, (more likely less, numbers are from a mob of 5)

    So after nerf, wall of elements provides technically more dps.
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  • MIAMI
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    DW mag nb without proxy can still b great with the right setup...
  • Junkogen
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    Serenityx wrote: »
    OP can you explain to me why on earth an AOE should be able to hit 15k on a single target. With the current buffs it recieved its clearly not functioning like a proper AOE. Im honestly happy to see it being balanced

    Food for thought: that's 15k over the course of 8 seconds. That's just under 2k dps per target.... even as is Liquid Lightning deals 2.5k dps per target.

    As is, the dps of Proxy is less than most other AoEs. Other AoEs are just far easier to avoid.

    After the nerf, the dps of Proxy will only be approximately 1.5 - 1.7k dps, (more likely less, numbers are from a mob of 5)

    So after nerf, wall of elements provides technically more dps.

    This right here.

    I understand what people are saying, but how come this was never a problem before vicious death came around? Proxy det has been proxy det since it was proxy det. Why all of a sudden do we need to nerf it, 45% no less?
    Edited by Junkogen on May 25, 2016 2:28AM
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    I'm so glad I never bothered with that ability .Nightblade builds are top secret info . You'll just have to break into YouTube and steal the info I guess .
  • Waffennacht
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    @Junkogen im not siding but I think i can explain:

    The intention was not to create a universal skill, good in single combat, or multiple enemies, both in PvP and PvE.

    It was intended as a good PvP move, the nerf focuses it's use into PvP, as I don't recall too many 10 member mobs in PvE. Clearly the numbers 1 and 10 were the extremes used in deciding the skill.

    Honestly any magicka build could slot it and be better, this (I personally really doubt they would intend that) wasn't inteded.

    That's my theory
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  • Ankael07
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    I would understand proxy's single target nerf cause of ball zergs and nbs coming out of nowhere with insane burst in 1v1s.But why did they also nerf inevitable det.? The skill already came with its risks that are 1.8 sec. cast time and visible explosion circle etc.

    If you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.
  • bowmanz607
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    Junkogen wrote: »
    Now that proxy det has become the latest victim of the whiner nerf bat, what is a magicka NB or any other class to do? Reroll stamina or what? Anyone have build suggestions now that proxy det is half the ability it used to be?

    Proxy det is a mainstay for me in PvE and PvP and now it's poo poo. This makes me sad. I loved to listen to the wind up and eventual BOOM! These are dark times indeed. :'(

    It should never have been a must for 1v1 small scale situations. It is now working as it should always have been. Effective against many and not against minimal targets. There are a tin of options to replace it with. Mag is not gone just because of this. It finally opens up the door to diversity like we had before it was made.
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