ZOS needs to Patch More

Korah_Eaglecry · May 2016

The excuse of "consoles need to be verified" and its easier to patch with the Updates is just BS. The game is suffering from far too many bugs at this point for the status quo of waiting every 3 months TO DO YOUR JOBs is not acceptable anymore. Theres numerous questlines that are no longer able to be completed (Fighters Guild in Eastmarch) that have gone ignored. The long list of bugs are being added to every three months and very little is actually getting fixed, and is almost always replaced with a new or even old bug that was thought to be squashed.

You know what would help you guys get a handle on these issues? Regular patches that tackle the problem week to week. Heck even bi-weekly patches would be a major step up from what we see now.

Rohamad_Ali · May 2016

I know it's painful waiting for fixes . They're are not just feeding you a lime though about the wait for consoles . There is in fact a verifying agency they have to report to for quality control first . Only console players have this safety belt and it has a purpose to protect the integrity of those consoles operating systems .

notimetocare · May 2016

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

The excuse of "consoles need to be verified" and its easier to patch with the Updates is just BS. The game is suffering from far too many bugs at this point for the status quo of waiting every 3 months TO DO YOUR JOBs is not acceptable anymore. Theres numerous questlines that are no longer able to be completed (Fighters Guild in Eastmarch) that have gone ignored. The long list of bugs are being added to every three months and very little is actually getting fixed, and is almost always replaced with a new or even old bug that was thought to be squashed.

You know what would help you guys get a handle on these issues? Regular patches that tackle the problem week to week. Heck even bi-weekly patches would be a major step up from what we see now.

Quit the game if you don't want to wait. MMOs rarely release constant patches.
Consoles HAVE to wait to get patches because of console companies. Its not a lie, not a scam, not laziness. It is mandated time that needs to be spent checking the patch content.

But being very serious, if this is an issue you should do yourself a favor and quit. No game is worth stress if you cannot cope with what has to be done.

Korah_Eaglecry · May 2016

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

I know it's painful waiting for fixes . They're are not just feeding you a lime though about the wait for consoles . There is in fact a verifying agency they have to report to for quality control first . Only console players have this safety belt and it has a purpose to protect the integrity of those consoles operating systems .

Im more than aware of the verifying process. Doesnt change the fact that other companies can get patches out to the games at a far more consistent pace.

notimetocare wrote: »

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Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

The excuse of "consoles need to be verified" and its easier to patch with the Updates is just BS. The game is suffering from far too many bugs at this point for the status quo of waiting every 3 months TO DO YOUR JOBs is not acceptable anymore. Theres numerous questlines that are no longer able to be completed (Fighters Guild in Eastmarch) that have gone ignored. The long list of bugs are being added to every three months and very little is actually getting fixed, and is almost always replaced with a new or even old bug that was thought to be squashed.

You know what would help you guys get a handle on these issues? Regular patches that tackle the problem week to week. Heck even bi-weekly patches would be a major step up from what we see now.

Quit the game if you don't want to wait. MMOs rarely release constant patches.
Consoles HAVE to wait to get patches because of console companies. Its not a lie, not a scam, not laziness. It is mandated time that needs to be spent checking the patch content.

But being very serious, if this is an issue you should do yourself a favor and quit. No game is worth stress if you cannot cope with what has to be done.

Thanks for your ever so insightful and intelligent advice. I mean, apparently stating that their routine of waiting for forever to roll out fixes means that my only option is to quit. /sarcasm.

Rohamad_Ali · May 2016

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

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Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

I know it's painful waiting for fixes . They're are not just feeding you a lime though about the wait for consoles . There is in fact a verifying agency they have to report to for quality control first . Only console players have this safety belt and it has a purpose to protect the integrity of those consoles operating systems .

Im more than aware of the verifying process. Doesnt change the fact that other companies can get patches out to the games at a far more consistent pace.
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notimetocare wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

The excuse of "consoles need to be verified" and its easier to patch with the Updates is just BS. The game is suffering from far too many bugs at this point for the status quo of waiting every 3 months TO DO YOUR JOBs is not acceptable anymore. Theres numerous questlines that are no longer able to be completed (Fighters Guild in Eastmarch) that have gone ignored. The long list of bugs are being added to every three months and very little is actually getting fixed, and is almost always replaced with a new or even old bug that was thought to be squashed.

You know what would help you guys get a handle on these issues? Regular patches that tackle the problem week to week. Heck even bi-weekly patches would be a major step up from what we see now.

Quit the game if you don't want to wait. MMOs rarely release constant patches.
Consoles HAVE to wait to get patches because of console companies. Its not a lie, not a scam, not laziness. It is mandated time that needs to be spent checking the patch content.

But being very serious, if this is an issue you should do yourself a favor and quit. No game is worth stress if you cannot cope with what has to be done.

Thanks for your ever so insightful and intelligent advice. I mean, apparently stating that their routine of waiting for forever to roll out fixes means that my only option is to quit. /sarcasm.

What other companies ? There's very few MMO's on console really . DC universe ? The Division ? Most people left the Division already .

magnusthorek · May 2016

There's a development concept called Continuous Development in which the studio behind a game or a company behind any PC product or service is continuously developing, patching, testing and deploying those improvements for their product in regular basis.

However this requires a solid infrastructure and working methodology so bugs can be fixed every hour, in case of large teams, or maybe even daily for smaller ones.

As far as I can tell, it's how Facebook operates.

This would be a bit hard to be true for ESO because someone is always playing and guia using the overwritable contents.

It would still be possible, maybe with an in-game updater, patching unused resources in runtime like some Android apps, but even without it, at least patch every week.

ZOS should not need mega patches running every three months only. Bugs exist to be squashed as soon as possible, not let them proliferate that much, for that long, expecting a big extermination to attempt to fix them all without "casualties"

Big patches should bring new content and/or major changes. Fixes only if they happen to be released at same time as the patch.

Some might say that these long periods are for testing. Well... PTS should not be the only way of doing it. PTS is more like a Beta test, since it's public. It seems that there's no Alpha test ir at least this important stage is not being done well enough.

jircris11 · May 2016

Between the content verification and the fact that they need to find the cause and create the fix for each bug is enough to slow the process down. I use to work for signal studios (freaking hated it) on the hand of kul project on 360. We had to constantly fight with Microsoft to get the patches approved and if a bigger name such as activation was releasing CoD we could forget about it. PC is much more simplistic seeing how there is no middle man to go through. If you are on console and do not wish to wait i recommend getting a PC and playing on that, if not then just wait for pc to test the fixes and hope they get implemented in a timely fashion.

Sadly most think that it is an easy process and that developers can just throw patches out quickly but in truth it is not. They are unrealistic standards put by those who have little to no knowledge on how a game works behind the pretty graphics.

Korah_Eaglecry · May 2016

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

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Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

I know it's painful waiting for fixes . They're are not just feeding you a lime though about the wait for consoles . There is in fact a verifying agency they have to report to for quality control first . Only console players have this safety belt and it has a purpose to protect the integrity of those consoles operating systems .

Im more than aware of the verifying process. Doesnt change the fact that other companies can get patches out to the games at a far more consistent pace.

notimetocare wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

The excuse of "consoles need to be verified" and its easier to patch with the Updates is just BS. The game is suffering from far too many bugs at this point for the status quo of waiting every 3 months TO DO YOUR JOBs is not acceptable anymore. Theres numerous questlines that are no longer able to be completed (Fighters Guild in Eastmarch) that have gone ignored. The long list of bugs are being added to every three months and very little is actually getting fixed, and is almost always replaced with a new or even old bug that was thought to be squashed.

You know what would help you guys get a handle on these issues? Regular patches that tackle the problem week to week. Heck even bi-weekly patches would be a major step up from what we see now.

Quit the game if you don't want to wait. MMOs rarely release constant patches.
Consoles HAVE to wait to get patches because of console companies. Its not a lie, not a scam, not laziness. It is mandated time that needs to be spent checking the patch content.

But being very serious, if this is an issue you should do yourself a favor and quit. No game is worth stress if you cannot cope with what has to be done.

Thanks for your ever so insightful and intelligent advice. I mean, apparently stating that their routine of waiting for forever to roll out fixes means that my only option is to quit. /sarcasm.

What other companies ? There's very few MMO's on console really . DC universe ? The Division ? Most people left the Division already .

What does players leaving The Division have to do with what I stated? Even if they were to drop a patch once a month to the game on Console it be much more effective then they are now.

It doesnt change the fact that this is an issue that is universal. PC is suffering from this approach just as much as Console. Defending ZOS about this does not change the fact that their current approach will inevitably make the list of bugs far longer over time then if they were to implement JUST ONE PATCH per month.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · May 2016

jircris11 wrote: »

Between the content verification and the fact that they need to find the cause and create the fix for each bug is enough to slow the process down. I use to work for signal studios (freaking hated it) on the hand of kul project on 360. We had to constantly fight with Microsoft to get the patches approved and if a bigger name such as activation was releasing CoD we could forget about it. PC is much more simplistic seeing how there is no middle man to go through. If you are on console and do not wish to wait i recommend getting a PC and playing on that, if not then just wait for pc to test the fixes and hope they get implemented in a timely fashion.

Sadly most think that it is an easy process and that developers can just throw patches out quickly but in truth it is not. They are unrealistic standards put by those who have little to no knowledge on how a game works behind the pretty graphics.

I completely agree with you but... and here it is, ZOS really needs to work on bug fixes more and to really stop changing so many things at once every patch because for them it really looks like they cannot keep up with all the problems, and dont get me wrong, I love this game and are a hardcore gamer and have been with game since early access on PC and then transfered to PS4 console when the game came to console.