So I contacted Zenimax about Cyrodil...

Katyprairie

After experiencing Cyrodil on the Xbox one for the first time since the thieves guild patch and seeing that it is just as unplayable for me as it has always been I contacted zenimax. Granted I have nearly 100mb download speed, 12mb upload speed, and a ping of 9ms and I am not playing wireless I am playing Xbox hardwired directly into the internet with an Ethernet cable, so there should be ZERO problems in that regard. I contacted the support team about it to see if there is maybe some weird thing wrong on my end and they just suggested the common things you'd do to fix a problem like uninstall and reinstall the game, etc. So I played their little game and did all their suggestions (which I had already done anyways) and I still just completely get kicked offline when a fight of 20-30 people or more happens. So I contacted them back and said these suggestions did not fix my problem and their response was basically "Well that's Cyrodil for ya" (lifts an L shape to forehead). I just want to critical rush into a massive battle and not have my character freeze in the running animation then lag out.

WalkingLegacy

Welcome to Cyrodiil and how ZoS treats their PvP players.

You may have noticed a lot of the big PvP guilds left already because of this 2 year problem.

Ser Lobo

Now, I'm not attacking the op at all. I sincerely feel for him and his issues, and have experienced the same.

But sometimes I feel like the only one who heard promise of 'hundreds of players on the field at the same time' and thought, 'Oh, yeah, sure, that's ***.'

I remember the lag I got in Dark Age of Camelot. I actually haven't played an MMO yet that was lag free. Better on the lag side than ESO? Sure. But free? No way. Course those games also generally had poorer graphics, or more simplified mechancis, or whatever.

I guess I've never been fundamentally disappointed like so many are, because I never expected it to work to begin with. The truth to happiness? Lowered expectations.









No, lower.



































Way lower ....

Taisynn

Honestly, this is how they treat a MAJORITY of issues. They blame issues on our end then when we do everything they asked they either still insist it's on our end or respond with "Well, that's how the cookie crumbles," instead of fixing it.

WalkingLegacy

@ruze84b14_ESO

Remember how Cyrodiil use to work?

Also, never accept mediocrity. That's why companies nickle and dime us to death.

Rohamad_Ali

Would you like to take a moment to fill out a brief customer service survey ?

Ser Lobo

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

@ruze84b14_ESO

Remember how Cyrodiil use to work?

Also, never accept mediocrity. That's why companies nickle and dime us to death.

You mean in beta? Year one? Console release?

Yeah. It's been laggy. I've *never* had a clean experience with Cyrodiil, unless it's solo. Small groups are fine. Start going into double digits, it starts lagging. Decent interent here in the states, too.

I would also state that I have a certain amount of control over a certain amount of things, and what a company does with it's policies, future plans or product isn't something I have control over. What I do with my money? That's what I have control over (mostly, if she lets me).

There's nothing you can do BUT accept, or deny. Pay, or move on. That's how that system works, and honestly, it's how it's supposed to work.

Trust me, if I *could* make a better game than ZOS has done, I would. I have ideas that might make it better, but that's not my job.

attackjet

Hop in azuras, oh wait.. You can't do anything without champion points?

Should just quit the game then.

Honestly havnt had 1 minute bit of lag since I've been in azuras.

Problem, solution.

Gidorick

it wasn't exactly an empty promise...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DV9TwsosyI

SirAndy

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

But sometimes I feel like the only one who heard promise of 'hundreds of players on the field at the same time' and thought, 'Oh, yeah, sure, that's ***.'

@ruze84b14_ESO
You should have been here during the PC beta. We had huge battles with actual hundreds of players in the same spot and no lag. It was epic!

Granted, there were plenty of other bugs to go around, but lag wasn't one of them. And back then, you could still see other players visual effects and yes, there were deer in Cyrodiil (gasp!).

Lag did not become an issue until the patch that was supposed to get rid of the farming bots. The next big hit came with the lightning patch. And it has been all downhill from there.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Gidorick wrote: »

it wasn't exactly an empty promise...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DV9TwsosyI

This video and the others like it should be posted every time someone says "100s of Players on screen" never works. It did work, They broke it. They refuse to fix it. End of story.


Edit: Here are some more examples of huge battles with no lag. This was PvP on PC NA in 2014.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vmmQVheKOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUzFW0Y11BM


My apologies to console players that never got to see the game like this.

TequilaFire

attackjet wrote: »

Hop in azuras, oh wait.. You can't do anything without champion points?

Should just quit the game then.

Honestly havnt had 1 minute bit of lag since I've been in azuras.

Problem, solution.

No it's not if the server had population there would be lag.

Katyprairie

I am not expecting zero lag, its Xbox, its a huge game with thousands of players and animations happening at once, I just want the content to be playable because as of right now unless the fight is in the single digits I can't do anything or I'll lag out. Maybe the game its just a little ahead of the consoles time, but no it's probably zenimax's fault because when it was first released I watched YouTube footage of PVP and it was fairly "lagless".

OrangeTheCat

"baby steps"

Maybe by the year 2021 it will be back the way it was at release at least.

Thybrinena

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

"baby steps"

Maybe by the year 2021 it will be back the way it was at release at least.

CU will be out way before then.

waterfairy

They should've responded "Sorry, the people who created Cyrodiil are no longer with us so we don't know how to make it run smoothly...please l2p with lag."

Shadowfx1970

since finding a way to kill bots pvp hs suffered a lot but they are working on it and we can only hope it will return to what it once was and that was awesome fingers crossed

OGLezard

Gidorick wrote: »

it wasn't exactly an empty promise...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DV9TwsosyI

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler whatever happened to this kind of pvp.....why did it break....I miss THIS kind of pvp....bring this back please......

Ser Lobo

OGLezard wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

it wasn't exactly an empty promise...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DV9TwsosyI

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler whatever happened to this kind of pvp.....why did it break....I miss THIS kind of pvp....bring this back please......

That wasn't my experience with beta PvP, I can assure you.

Skinzz

You dont have a valid internet connection!

You have been kicked for exceeding the message rate and spamming!

VincentBlanquin

last time i was on azura there was nobody around me and i still has 999+ latency ....

sure, its better overal than Trueflame, but not lagless. crazy yellow zergs make sure there is lag too /PC EU)

SlayerTheDragon

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THIS<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

They broke PVP when they removed Client Side Trust (google it) - because guys were hacking their ultimate numbers with Cheat Engine to give themselves 100% ultimate uptime.

That broke PVP, nothing else.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THIS<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

They broke PVP when they removed Client Side Trust (google it) - because guys were hacking their ultimate numbers with Cheat Engine to give themselves 100% ultimate uptime.

That broke PVP, nothing else.

That's great. That is what most people assume happened. So why can't ZOS just admit it. Why do they have to deceive us and give us hope that some sort of aoe or particle effects tinkering will magically fix it?

DRXHarbinger

The best one is when zos tell you on console to reinstall the patch if you have any problems. ....Ummm mm we cannot simply do that zos. L2learnhowconsoleworks.

NeillMcAttack

Here is a fairly recent clip of a fight involving at least 100 players. People say it's not possible without lag!? Ever since Azura's became non CP this has been the quality I have been getting every night I jump in for some PvP.

I had just arrived on the scene and we the Reds had to knock a third wall due to all the AOE to get inside.
ZERO, literally, ZERO, lag. PS4 EU.
http://youtu.be/D2k90y55Ru4

Nobody can tell me that CP's don't play a part in the Cyro lag.

Father_X_Zombie

xskinzcity wrote: »

You dont have a valid internet connection!

You have been kicked for exceeding the message rate and spamming!

Yep, sounds familiar.

Father_X_Zombie

Katyprairie wrote: »

After experiencing Cyrodil on the Xbox one for the first time since the thieves guild patch and seeing that it is just as unplayable for me as it has always been I contacted zenimax. Granted I have nearly 100mb download speed, 12mb upload speed, and a ping of 9ms and I am not playing wireless I am playing Xbox hardwired directly into the internet with an Ethernet cable, so there should be ZERO problems in that regard. I contacted the support team about it to see if there is maybe some weird thing wrong on my end and they just suggested the common things you'd do to fix a problem like uninstall and reinstall the game, etc. So I played their little game and did all their suggestions (which I had already done anyways) and I still just completely get kicked offline when a fight of 20-30 people or more happens. So I contacted them back and said these suggestions did not fix my problem and their response was basically "Well that's Cyrodil for ya" (lifts an L shape to forehead). I just want to critical rush into a massive battle and not have my character freeze in the running animation then lag out.

If your Xb1 na, Chillrend is a pretty good small scale (unless your EP, then your zerging lol) PvP campaign. You might have better luck there, as the population is lower, but not completely empty.

SneaK

The game is broken, and will likely never be fixed. Ever since the Imperial City update everything has been a horrible lag infested mess. You'd think they would look at what they did when rolling out that DLC on console that screwed everything up. But instead they have and will continue to release more DLCs, with more bugs, thus making the game worse and worse. But hey, gotta get that money honey.

KingYogi415

Use namebench to find your best dns setting.
Whenever I get dropped I switch to google and it does not happen agian.

Cheers!

alexkdd99

Katyprairie wrote: »

After experiencing Cyrodil on the Xbox one for the first time since the thieves guild patch and seeing that it is just as unplayable for me as it has always been I contacted zenimax. Granted I have nearly 100mb download speed, 12mb upload speed, and a ping of 9ms and I am not playing wireless I am playing Xbox hardwired directly into the internet with an Ethernet cable, so there should be ZERO problems in that regard. I contacted the support team about it to see if there is maybe some weird thing wrong on my end and they just suggested the common things you'd do to fix a problem like uninstall and reinstall the game, etc. So I played their little game and did all their suggestions (which I had already done anyways) and I still just completely get kicked offline when a fight of 20-30 people or more happens. So I contacted them back and said these suggestions did not fix my problem and their response was basically "Well that's Cyrodil for ya" (lifts an L shape to forehead). I just want to critical rush into a massive battle and not have my character freeze in the running animation then lag out.

I have a 3-6 MB download and .5-1 MB upload and almost never lag in cyrodil on the xbox. So either you are exaggerating the amount of lag or are just unlucky.

emily3989

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

But sometimes I feel like the only one who heard promise of 'hundreds of players on the field at the same time' and thought, 'Oh, yeah, sure, that's ***.'

....

yea, God forbid a company actually provides the gameplay it advertised to sell the game in the first place. Silly old me and my expectations.