New to stamblades

devilsTear · May 2016

Any tips for a starting stamblade? Mainly for pvp, I'll probably do dungeons too just for the undaunted passives.
So anyway he's a lv48 kitty Stamblade right now using all medium 5p hundings + 3 or 4 night mother's gaze depending on which bar I'm on ( dual wield swords + bow) + random Stam jewelry for now.
I was thinking using maybe s&b and a 2hander but I don't know if that's good on a stamblade.. Only have 2 v16 Magick dk's and a v2 magplar.. I really don't know how to build a stam toon ( or a decent magicka one Haha) How much weapon damage and stam regen should I be going for? I play on ps4 if that matters anything.

Sunburnt_Penguin · May 2016

Main bar either DW or 2H:
1. Ambush
2. Surprise attack
3. Mass hysteria
4. Rally if 2H, vigor if not
5. Personal choice
6. Soul Harvest/Incap Strike

Off bar either Bow or 2H
1. Rally if 2H, Vigor if not
2. Relentless Focus
3. Poison Injection
4. Personal choice
5. Personal choice
6. Flawless DB or Meteor

Personal choices which I often switch between depending on circumstances: Camo Hunter, Cloak, Reverse Slice/Executioner (if you need an execute), Shadow Image, Siphoning Attacks, Immovable, Caltrops.

Hunding's is good but you may want to include some Marksman for added regen and the fact that most players will be running some sort of shields which negates the crit from NMGaze.

mr_wazzabi · May 2016

Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »

Main bar either DW or 2H:
1. Ambush
2. Surprise attack
3. Mass hysteria
4. Rally if 2H, vigor if not
5. Personal choice
6. Soul Harvest/Incap Strike

Off bar either Bow or 2H
1. Rally if 2H, Vigor if not
2. Relentless Focus
3. Poison Injection
4. Personal choice
5. Personal choice
6. Flawless DB or Meteor

Personal choices which I often switch between depending on circumstances: Camo Hunter, Cloak, Reverse Slice/Executioner (if you need an execute), Shadow Image, Siphoning Attacks, Immovable, Caltrops.

Hunding's is good but you may want to include some Marksman for added regen and the fact that most players will be running some sort of shields which negates the crit from NMGaze.

Wrecking blow can also be a personal choice

Sunburnt_Penguin · May 2016

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

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Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »

Main bar either DW or 2H:
1. Ambush
2. Surprise attack
3. Mass hysteria
4. Rally if 2H, vigor if not
5. Personal choice
6. Soul Harvest/Incap Strike

Off bar either Bow or 2H
1. Rally if 2H, Vigor if not
2. Relentless Focus
3. Poison Injection
4. Personal choice
5. Personal choice
6. Flawless DB or Meteor

Personal choices which I often switch between depending on circumstances: Camo Hunter, Cloak, Reverse Slice/Executioner (if you need an execute), Shadow Image, Siphoning Attacks, Immovable, Caltrops.

Hunding's is good but you may want to include some Marksman for added regen and the fact that most players will be running some sort of shields which negates the crit from NMGaze.

Wrecking blow can also be a personal choice

As can the likes of Entropy, Funnel Health and Annulment but like WBlow, they're not personal choices that I switch between.

mr_wazzabi · May 2016

devilsTear wrote: »

Any tips for a starting stamblade? Mainly for pvp, I'll probably do dungeons too just for the undaunted passives.
So anyway he's a lv48 kitty Stamblade right now using all medium 5p hundings + 3 or 4 night mother's gaze depending on which bar I'm on ( dual wield swords + bow) + random Stam jewelry for now.
I was thinking using maybe s&b and a 2hander but I don't know if that's good on a stamblade.. Only have 2 v16 Magick dk's and a v2 magplar.. I really don't know how to build a stam toon ( or a decent magicka one Haha) How much weapon damage and stam regen should I be going for? I play on ps4 if that matters anything.

Try to get to 3k weapon damage and at least 1500 stamina regen (2000 is ideal).

Best stamina jewelery set is agility.

The pvp sets also come with jewelery, so you can use the pvp rewards of the worthy set piece jewelery.

S&b can work well if you're good at animation cancelling.

1 prefer 2h for rally as it's a burst heal + weapon damage buff. Dw doesn't hold that much of a weapon damage advantage over 2h, so it's my weapon of choice.

devilsTear · May 2016

Hmm well I've been dual wielding just because it looks better and also I don't want to become a wrecking blow spammer

Until I have marksman and until I can wear my agility jewelry would it be a could idea to pair hundings rage with nights silence or willows path? Infused on the big pieces and impen or divines on the small ones.
Thanks for the help so far guys

devilsTear · May 2016

My kitty Stamblade is v1 now ^^
Would vampirism be a good idea for my kitty? Just mainly for the dark stalker passive.

leepalmer95 · May 2016

devilsTear wrote: »

My kitty Stamblade is v1 now ^^
Would vampirism be a good idea for my kitty? Just mainly for the dark stalker passive.

Vamp would be great next patch, not so much this patch. Next patch vamp's being buffed but this patch there too many downsides.

I''d highly suggest using 2h somewhere, you won't be spamming wb but you really do need rally. If you want to use dual wield as your main weapon thats ok, but keep 2h on your back bar for easy major brutality, heal over time and burst heal rally brings.

devilsTear · May 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

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devilsTear wrote: »

My kitty Stamblade is v1 now ^^
Would vampirism be a good idea for my kitty? Just mainly for the dark stalker passive.

Vamp would be great next patch, not so much this patch. Next patch vamp's being buffed but this patch there too many downsides.

I''d highly suggest using 2h somewhere, you won't be spamming wb but you really do need rally. If you want to use dual wield as your main weapon thats ok, but keep 2h on your back bar for easy major brutality, heal over time and burst heal rally brings.

I'm gonna try a 2hander then, I guess I should carry a maul for the armor penetration or is a Battleaxe or greatsword better?

leepalmer95 · May 2016

devilsTear wrote: »

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leepalmer95 wrote: »

devilsTear wrote: »

My kitty Stamblade is v1 now ^^
Would vampirism be a good idea for my kitty? Just mainly for the dark stalker passive.

Vamp would be great next patch, not so much this patch. Next patch vamp's being buffed but this patch there too many downsides.

I''d highly suggest using 2h somewhere, you won't be spamming wb but you really do need rally. If you want to use dual wield as your main weapon thats ok, but keep 2h on your back bar for easy major brutality, heal over time and burst heal rally brings.

I'm gonna try a 2hander then, I guess I should carry a maul for the armor penetration or is a Battleaxe or greatsword better?

Depends i'd say either battle axe maul though.

Personally i think stamina nb's will have enough penetration, SA, sharpened and a few cp will give you around 12k or something so i like to go with axe because the bleed goes through shields.

ManDraKE · May 2016

for PvP drop the 3 NMG and pick morkuldin/leki/marksman.

devilsTear · May 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

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devilsTear wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

devilsTear wrote: »

My kitty Stamblade is v1 now ^^
Would vampirism be a good idea for my kitty? Just mainly for the dark stalker passive.

Vamp would be great next patch, not so much this patch. Next patch vamp's being buffed but this patch there too many downsides.

I''d highly suggest using 2h somewhere, you won't be spamming wb but you really do need rally. If you want to use dual wield as your main weapon thats ok, but keep 2h on your back bar for easy major brutality, heal over time and burst heal rally brings.

I'm gonna try a 2hander then, I guess I should carry a maul for the armor penetration or is a Battleaxe or greatsword better?

Depends i'd say either battle axe maul though.

Personally i think stamina nb's will have enough penetration, SA, sharpened and a few cp will give you around 12k or something so i like to go with axe because the bleed goes through shields.

I've been using a battle axe the last couple of days and I must say rally really helps out, another thing I was wondering about are dual wielding daggers for some more crit or isn't that viable in pvp?

ManDraKE wrote: »

for PvP drop the 3 NMG and pick morkuldin/leki/marksman.

I can't craft morkuldin and leki and marksman are hard to vind at v2

Xvorg · May 2016

devilsTear wrote: »

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leepalmer95 wrote: »

devilsTear wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

devilsTear wrote: »

My kitty Stamblade is v1 now ^^
Would vampirism be a good idea for my kitty? Just mainly for the dark stalker passive.

Vamp would be great next patch, not so much this patch. Next patch vamp's being buffed but this patch there too many downsides.

I''d highly suggest using 2h somewhere, you won't be spamming wb but you really do need rally. If you want to use dual wield as your main weapon thats ok, but keep 2h on your back bar for easy major brutality, heal over time and burst heal rally brings.

I'm gonna try a 2hander then, I guess I should carry a maul for the armor penetration or is a Battleaxe or greatsword better?

Depends i'd say either battle axe maul though.

Personally i think stamina nb's will have enough penetration, SA, sharpened and a few cp will give you around 12k or something so i like to go with axe because the bleed goes through shields.

I've been using a battle axe the last couple of days and I must say rally really helps out, another thing I was wondering about are dual wielding daggers for some more crit or isn't that viable in pvp?
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ManDraKE wrote: »

for PvP drop the 3 NMG and pick morkuldin/leki/marksman.

I can't craft morkuldin and leki and marksman are hard to vind at v2

Work towards VR5 and get 3 dreugh king slayer pieces (sword, necklace and something else) The wpn dmg you get is great.

Lynx7386 · May 2016

Werewolf > Vampire, always. Who wants to look all pale and dead-like when you could instead turn into a stamina beast?

leepalmer95 · May 2016

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Werewolf > Vampire, always. Who wants to look all pale and dead-like when you could instead turn into a stamina beast?

People who care more about stats/effect rather than appearance

devilsTear · May 2016

Xvorg wrote: »

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devilsTear wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

devilsTear wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

devilsTear wrote: »

My kitty Stamblade is v1 now ^^
Would vampirism be a good idea for my kitty? Just mainly for the dark stalker passive.

Vamp would be great next patch, not so much this patch. Next patch vamp's being buffed but this patch there too many downsides.

I''d highly suggest using 2h somewhere, you won't be spamming wb but you really do need rally. If you want to use dual wield as your main weapon thats ok, but keep 2h on your back bar for easy major brutality, heal over time and burst heal rally brings.

I'm gonna try a 2hander then, I guess I should carry a maul for the armor penetration or is a Battleaxe or greatsword better?

Depends i'd say either battle axe maul though.

Personally i think stamina nb's will have enough penetration, SA, sharpened and a few cp will give you around 12k or something so i like to go with axe because the bleed goes through shields.

I've been using a battle axe the last couple of days and I must say rally really helps out, another thing I was wondering about are dual wielding daggers for some more crit or isn't that viable in pvp?

ManDraKE wrote: »

for PvP drop the 3 NMG and pick morkuldin/leki/marksman.

I can't craft morkuldin and leki and marksman are hard to vind at v2

Work towards VR5 and get 3 dreugh king slayer pieces (sword, necklace and something else) The wpn dmg you get is great.

I'll look into that thanks

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Werewolf > Vampire, always. Who wants to look all pale and dead-like when you could instead turn into a stamina beast?

I actually like how my vampire kitty looks

and the passives are good too.

Lynx7386 · May 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

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Lynx7386 wrote: »

Werewolf > Vampire, always. Who wants to look all pale and dead-like when you could instead turn into a stamina beast?

People who care more about stats/effect rather than appearance

Werewolf isnt THAT bad =P and it's getting better with DB.

RedFireDisco · May 2016

Get vigor if you can. The biggest weakness to stamblades is that the class "heals" scale of magicka, so you're on the back foot from the start.

Also, stamblade fight at melee range and take more damage, ergo; dodge roll is essential. Reduce the cost of this how best you can.

Running a few heavy pieces earlier on helps when you're squishier.

Eventually you'll want 6 med. The loss of 5-1-1 down to 6-1 in Undaunted passives is made up in the gear bonuses.

kadar · May 2016

devilsTear wrote: »

Any tips for a starting stamblade? Mainly for pvp, I'll probably do dungeons too just for the undaunted passives.
So anyway he's a lv48 kitty Stamblade right now using all medium 5p hundings + 3 or 4 night mother's gaze depending on which bar I'm on ( dual wield swords + bow) + random Stam jewelry for now.
I was thinking using maybe s&b and a 2hander but I don't know if that's good on a stamblade.. Only have 2 v16 Magick dk's and a v2 magplar.. I really don't know how to build a stam toon ( or a decent magicka one Haha) How much weapon damage and stam regen should I be going for? I play on ps4 if that matters anything.

@devilsTear , 1.5-2k is a very reasonable amount of Stamina Recovery. And 3-3.5k is plenty of Weapon Damage. 25-35k Max Stamina. Not less than 20k Health.

^Those are nice round numbers to shoot for. Holler if you need tips on how to boost a particular stat.

devilsTear · May 2016

The_Outsider wrote: »

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devilsTear wrote: »

Any tips for a starting stamblade? Mainly for pvp, I'll probably do dungeons too just for the undaunted passives.
So anyway he's a lv48 kitty Stamblade right now using all medium 5p hundings + 3 or 4 night mother's gaze depending on which bar I'm on ( dual wield swords + bow) + random Stam jewelry for now.
I was thinking using maybe s&b and a 2hander but I don't know if that's good on a stamblade.. Only have 2 v16 Magick dk's and a v2 magplar.. I really don't know how to build a stam toon ( or a decent magicka one Haha) How much weapon damage and stam regen should I be going for? I play on ps4 if that matters anything.

@devilsTear , 1.5-2k is a very reasonable amount of Stamina Recovery. And 3-3.5k is plenty of Weapon Damage. 25-35k Max Stamina. Not less than 20k Health.

^Those are nice round numbers to shoot for. Holler if you need tips on how to boost a particular stat.

Thanks @The_Outsider, I appreciate the help

In cyrodiil my stats are
Magicka 15478 magicka regen 661
Health 21744 Healt regen 302
Stamina 29556 stam regen 1600~1704
Weapon damage 2302 and 2913 buffed
This is with tri stat food by the way and I just hit v3 with him. Running 2hander/bow hundings + nightmothers but I'll look into leki s if I get some, how would you improve my stats?

kadar · May 2016

devilsTear wrote: »

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devilsTear wrote: »

Any tips for a starting stamblade? Mainly for pvp, I'll probably do dungeons too just for the undaunted passives.
So anyway he's a lv48 kitty Stamblade right now using all medium 5p hundings + 3 or 4 night mother's gaze depending on which bar I'm on ( dual wield swords + bow) + random Stam jewelry for now.
I was thinking using maybe s&b and a 2hander but I don't know if that's good on a stamblade.. Only have 2 v16 Magick dk's and a v2 magplar.. I really don't know how to build a stam toon ( or a decent magicka one Haha) How much weapon damage and stam regen should I be going for? I play on ps4 if that matters anything.

@devilsTear , 1.5-2k is a very reasonable amount of Stamina Recovery. And 3-3.5k is plenty of Weapon Damage. 25-35k Max Stamina. Not less than 20k Health.

^Those are nice round numbers to shoot for. Holler if you need tips on how to boost a particular stat.

Thanks @The_Outsider, I appreciate the help
In cyrodiil my stats are
Magicka 15478 magicka regen 661
Health 21744 Healt regen 302
Stamina 29556 stam regen 1600~1704
Weapon damage 2302 and 2913 buffed
This is with tri stat food by the way and I just hit v3 with him. Running 2hander/bow hundings + nightmothers but I'll look into leki s if I get some, how would you improve my stats?

That actually looks really good for being v3. Once you hit max level, invest in Gold quality gear.

You could switch to blue Health/Stam food for slightly more Stam. 15k is a pretty big Magicka pool, imo.

Agility Jewelry. Robust trait is expensive. SO, what I would do, is start farming trophies (Bloody Claw + Monster Teeth in IC) so that when you hit max level you can open a bunch of chests for a chance at a full Agility set (if you have the DLC that is). Just wait til you're at the cap to open chests, there's no point having a set of v3 Agility. If NOT, you could always start saving Gold. I wouldn't bother buying pieces until you're max level, unless you can find them for really cheap. For pure DPS, you really can't beat that 3 pc bonus.

Basically I wouldn't focus on pushing your stats higher until you're closer to the level cap, and it looks like you're off to a really solid start!
PS: IC also gives GREAT XP. Are you PC NA, by chance?

devilsTear · May 2016

Well I should mention those stats are battle leveled though

I'm a eso+ subscriber so I'll venture into IC a little bit more. And I play on ps4 eu, I'm to poor for a gaming pc Haha
I was also thinking of switching him to a magblade but I don't know if that's a good idea for a khajiit, it would be only be for pvp.